Shawn Marion Trade Rumors

[ImaDougaholic24_7]

I know it's early and theres always a lot of talk going on that never usually happens, but I'm hearing rumors about Shawn Marion on the trading block again, and talk about him being traded to the Sixers for Samuel Dalembert and a couple throw ins. Has anyone else heard this? If so where did you see/hear this? I'm very curious now. What do you guys think of this trade if it were to happen? Good or Bad for both teams?

 

[Bricklayer]

I know it's early and theres always a lot of talk going on that never usually happens, but I'm hearing rumors about Shawn Marion on the trading block again, and talk about him being traded to the Sixers for Samuel Dalembert and a couple throw ins. Has anyone else heard this? If so where did you see/hear this? I'm very curious now. What do you guys think of this trade if it were to happen? Good or Bad for both teams?

I'm guessing you heard that on RealGm? So far as I know its a rumor 100% made up by the editor of that site a couple of days ago when he posted an article stating it was going to happen. No sources. Shaky reaonsing. Just that it was because he thought it was. Until we hear it from a MUCH more authoritative source, I'd say its nothing.

 

[funkykingston]

I like this proposed deal for both sides but more for Philly than Phoenix.

For the Suns it gives them an athletic center that would let Amare slide back to his natural PF spot. It also clears up a logjam at the 2 & 3 where they now have Marion, Johnson, Richardson, and Jackson.

For Philly it gives them a third scorer and a another great wing defender to pair with Iguodala. Plus, Marion gets a lot of his points off the break, rebounds and spot up threes. Being able to score without having many plays run for him helps him as a potential teammate of Iverson.

Here are the problems I see with the deal. For Phoenix it does nothing to solve their biggest problems, defense and payroll. Defensively, Dalembert will help as a shotblocker but he still gets pushed around, just like Hunter did this year. More importantly, the Suns are coming up against serious cash problems. JJ is a free agent. Steven Hunter is a free agent. Stoudamire is going to need a new deal. Plus they already paid top dollar for Nash and Richardson. Trading away Marion and his max deal would help, but not if the player coming back (Dalembert) has a similar long term deal.

For Philly, the only real problem I see on the court is that it puts Korver and his shooting on the bench. Not a big deal, but it means teams can further pack the lanes to stop the Sixers.

I doubt Philly will get as good an offer for a player who can leave for nothing, but if they do, they should jump on it. Assuming they can't (or don't want to) resign Dalembert themselves.

 

[Packt]

I'm guessing you heard that on RealGm? So far as I know its a rumor 100% made up by the editor of that site a couple of days ago when he posted an article stating it was going to happen. No sources. Shaky reaonsing. Just that it was because he thought it was. Until we hear it from a MUCH more authoritative source, I'd say its nothing.

I'm thinking the trade talks stem from Marion catching heat for his poor play against the Spurs, and then making comments along the lines of "only being able to do so much when plays aren't drawn up for you". It sounded like something said out of frustration, but people took it as him being unhappy. Trade rumors- unsurprisingly- started shortly after that.

 

[Bibby_Is_Clutch]

I dont see the Suns letting go of Marion and his consistant rebounding.

 

[ImaDougaholic24_7]

I saw it on the justbball.com site. And I don't see the Suns letting Shawn go either. Believe it or not he is a key player to that team. He can do it all and I don't know a team that wouldn't want a player like Shawn. He's a great player, very underrated. He never gets the recognition he deserves and he's a great locker room guy too. I just hope that Phoenix keeps Shawn because he's a great fit there. They have a great team, they just need work on the defensive end. But if this really is a possible trade, I think it would work out pretty good for both teams. I just can't see the Sixers giving up Sammy. He's got a lot of potential, I think he did really well this season. And what about Shawn to the Kings? Since some people think that our biggest flaw is a PF. I'd say Shawn is the perfect PF.

 

[thesanityannex]

ahhhhhh. bsb sigs.

 

[Bricklayer]

I saw it on the justbball.com site. And I don't see the Suns letting Shawn go either. Believe it or not he is a key player to that team. He can do it all and I don't know a team that wouldn't want a player like Shawn. He's a great player, very underrated. He never gets the recognition he deserves and he's a great locker room guy too. I just hope that Phoenix keeps Shawn because he's a great fit there. They have a great team, they just need work on the defensive end. But if this really is a possible trade, I think it would work out pretty good for both teams. I just can't see the Sixers giving up Sammy. He's got a lot of potential, I think he did really well this season. And what about Shawn to the Kings? Since some people think that our biggest flaw is a PF. I'd say Shawn is the perfect PF.

He's not a PF at all, and in the end that got exposed. Even injured Webb was able to just crush him in the post. He's the same height as KT. SF all the way.

 

[4cwebb]

I like this proposed deal for both sides but more for Philly than Phoenix.

For the Suns it gives them an athletic center that would let Amare slide back to his natural PF spot. It also clears up a logjam at the 2 & 3 where they now have Marion, Johnson, Richardson, and Jackson.

For Philly it gives them a third scorer and a another great wing defender to pair with Iguodala. Plus, Marion gets a lot of his points off the break, rebounds and spot up threes. Being able to score without having many plays run for him helps him as a potential teammate of Iverson.

Here are the problems I see with the deal. For Phoenix it does nothing to solve their biggest problems, defense and payroll. Defensively, Dalembert will help as a shotblocker but he still gets pushed around, just like Hunter did this year. More importantly, the Suns are coming up against serious cash problems. JJ is a free agent. Steven Hunter is a free agent. Stoudamire is going to need a new deal. Plus they already paid top dollar for Nash and Richardson. Trading away Marion and his max deal would help, but not if the player coming back (Dalembert) has a similar long term deal.

For Philly, the only real problem I see on the court is that it puts Korver and his shooting on the bench. Not a big deal, but it means teams can further pack the lanes to stop the Sixers.

I doubt Philly will get as good an offer for a player who can leave for nothing, but if they do, they should jump on it. Assuming they can't (or don't want to) resign Dalembert themselves.

The other downside for the Sixers is that Dalembert is the only PF/C with any type of athleticism on that roster (CWebb, Mark Jackson and Rodney Rogers are the other members of that rotation). Trading Dalembert would make the Sixers extremely weak around the rim. Marion would help quite well with the rebounding, but he doesn't block shots.

And, since Marion is a guy that relies on other people to make offense for him, playing for a guy like Iverson might not be too bad (since AI has the ability to pass the ball well), but Marion won't get nearly as many fastbreak opportunities as he gets with PHX and Nash, and will be a much less effective player on offense, imho.

 

[funkykingston]

As, I mentioned, I only see a trade happening with Dalembert if the Sixers decide not to pay to keep him themselves. They have his Bird rights, so unless another team offers him more than the Sixers are willing to match or the Sixers simply choose not to re-sign him, he'll be back in Philly.

If another team DOES offer him more than they are willing to dole out, THEN a sign-and-trade becomes a possibility. Depending on whether or not they draft Bogut, that other team could be the Atlanta Hawks.

 

[Venom]

Petrie needs to get on the phone and offer Peja for either one of these guys POSTHASTE!

 

[LjuboDaMan]

why peja ???

that would be a stupid move if you ask me

Even I have a nicer shot than the marion guy

 

[Bricklayer]

why peja ???

that would be a stupid move if you ask me

Even I have a nicer shot than the marion guy

20ppg SF for 20ppg SF. Only one is a great team defender and huge rebounder, helping to fix both of our main weaknesses.

But that said, does not work for Phoenix at all -- they need what we need, a big athletic bigman, not another shooter.

 

[LjuboDaMan]

20ppg SF for 20ppg SF. Only one is a great team defender and huge rebounder, helping to fix both of our main weaknesses.

But that said, does not work for Phoenix at all -- they need what we need, a big athletic bigman, not another shooter.

yes i agree ... rebounding diff is huge ...

still ... i wouldnt trade worlds best shooter for marion

but im not Petrie ... and doesnt matter what i think anyway

 

[4cwebb]

20ppg SF for 20ppg SF. Only one is a great team defender and huge rebounder, helping to fix both of our main weaknesses.

But that said, does not work for Phoenix at all -- they need what we need, a big athletic bigman, not another shooter.

The only item I would quibble with here is that Marion would probably not average 20 ppg in the Kings' offensive system since the Kings don't really try to push the ball and get a lot of transition opportunities (that's certainly not Bibby's forte since he's not the quickest of PGs).

But, adding Marion would greatly improve the team's defense and rebounding immediately, and would put much less pressure on the Kings to find a defensive oriented SG.

As a side note, I can't even fathom how many points Amare would average (and how many assists Nash would average) if the Suns had Peja standing around on the three point line looking to bury open threes if/when his defender has to help on the Nash/Amare pick and roll. If you think QRich had some success, imagine how well Peja would do just standing around gunning open threes. Scary. Of course, Suns would have to pick up a legitimate center that can shoot as well, and need to resign JJohnson first and foremost.

 

[thesanityannex]

still ... i wouldnt trade worlds best shooter for marion

According to this year's all-star contest, Quinten Richardson is the world's best shooter.






or was that choker.