Shams: Lakers discuss Kuzma for Buddy deal
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TH is a nice player, but not $35+-million-per-for-3-more-years nice. That said, he'd be an upgrade over Bags (or anyone else on the Kings) opposite HB on the front line. Buddy & Wright for Harris would help move the needle enough to yield a playoff team, IMO. Losing Buddy/Wright would also help balance out the team's positional needs and free Monte to truly draft the best and/or highest-upside available.
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Bench: #9, Jones, Davis [?],
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Bench: #9, Jones, Davis [?],
yes, I would think that a solid playoff team. I like Wright as a backup PG but we do have two starting PG’s in Fox and Haliburton, hopefully a resigned Davis and that alone is a nice young backcourt with a seasoned frontcourt. Also your right about it opens up Monte’s ability to draft highest upside, but again that price tag and cap considerations.
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The fans that actually buy tickets in Portland LOVE Dame and are clinging onto hope that they can make him happy.
I don't think it is possible, but they aren't ready to break up. On the outside looking in, I can see the value of doing it before you have to as the way to max value. And I think Bagley could succeed in Portland as long as he can get his dad to shut up and he is nice to women. If they get 4-5 picks from Sac and Philly on top of whatever players it brings it does set them up nice for a quick rebuild. Unfortunately for Blazers fans I do not think Olshey is the person competent to do it. He's been pretty lousy outside of Dame and CJ.
I don't think it is possible, but they aren't ready to break up. On the outside looking in, I can see the value of doing it before you have to as the way to max value. And I think Bagley could succeed in Portland as long as he can get his dad to shut up and he is nice to women. If they get 4-5 picks from Sac and Philly on top of whatever players it brings it does set them up nice for a quick rebuild. Unfortunately for Blazers fans I do not think Olshey is the person competent to do it. He's been pretty lousy outside of Dame and CJ.
If Harrell was brought in as the starting 5, i agree. But as a bench big, dude is a beast that the kings can flip mid season. Or push towards the POs.
I don’t question Kuzma’s value. Stretch 4s have had value since Robert Horry’s rocket days. Kuzma can be flipped and may be a long term piece if n3 gets his head straight. My biggest worry is where his head is.
There are a handful of players at 22 that I think will be better than Moody or Kispert. Herb Jones, Domsumu, Butler, maybe Murphy. If the Kings get 22, Monte should take it and run.
I don’t question Kuzma’s value. Stretch 4s have had value since Robert Horry’s rocket days. Kuzma can be flipped and may be a long term piece if n3 gets his head straight. My biggest worry is where his head is.
There are a handful of players at 22 that I think will be better than Moody or Kispert. Herb Jones, Domsumu, Butler, maybe Murphy. If the Kings get 22, Monte should take it and run.
The question is how to make salaries work. It would probably have to be some part of a Simmons deal where they break his salary down into 2-3 players and then ship then to Sac in a 3 team deal. Take notes Monte, this is why you can't afford to waste draft fit opportunities and instead go for high paid "win now" versions. In case you need to move on those deals will get complicated.
Harrell has major upside as an acquisition but one that might be able to be gotten using your MLE anyway. He is a really productive sixth man and actually WANTS to be that. As for Kuzma, role player who I don't think fits nearly as well as a Moody/Wagner does long term since he is basically a stretch 4 as you said. I don't see he and Barnes being very versatile.
This is assuming Barnes stays. Barnes is the better player and can swing between both forward spots (though he's better as a 4 IMO) while Kuzma only slots in as a stretch four. That said, Kuzma is 3 years younger, a better rebounder, and is cheaper. So while he might be a slight downgrade from HB, he allows the Kings to deal Barnes to shore up different aspects of the team/balance the roster.
Yeah, I don't think that's the way to go though. If they basically traded out Barnes for Kuz and expect that to fly, nah. Slight downgrades are still downgrades. Going too far down the rabbit hole of change is at some point change for sake of change and Vlade ran that one into the ground time and time again. If they are actually looking to improve they need to add to the pieces they have and build on what success' their team did show. I would be surprised if the Kings have any interest in moving Harrison. He's found a nice niche with the team so moving on from him unless it's a part of a deal for a real superstar or an attempt to get rebuild pieces makes no sense.
I was checking out that Holmes article from Ham just posted. The Kings lineup next season could be Fox/Tyreke/Kuz/Barnes/Holmes. So basically replacing Buddy with Kuz is the answer here? It might be to Luke Walton who is the one who boosted Kuz over the likes of Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle. In Lukes seasons with Kuz in his back pocket Kuz took the 1st and 2nd most FGA's during that time on the team. LOL. Run Monte run!
I was checking out that Holmes article from Ham just posted. The Kings lineup next season could be Fox/Tyreke/Kuz/Barnes/Holmes. So basically replacing Buddy with Kuz is the answer here? It might be to Luke Walton who is the one who boosted Kuz over the likes of Brandon Ingram and Julius Randle. In Lukes seasons with Kuz in his back pocket Kuz took the 1st and 2nd most FGA's during that time on the team. LOL. Run Monte run!
We're looking at more offensive talent but that team is a shoe in to be the worst team in the league defensively again. I don't think you can run Holmes and Harrell out there as your two centers. One of them has to be staggered with a defensive center. I really like Harrell but I'm not sure we're the team equipped to use his services as well as some other teams. Adding Harrell and Kuzma adds some offensive pop (especially from Harrell) but worsens the defense.
Hopefully a trade can be made that balances the roster out a bit better than that even though at first glance it looks good on paper.
Hopefully a trade can be made that balances the roster out a bit better than that even though at first glance it looks good on paper.
