Shams: Lakers discuss Kuzma for Buddy deal

ockingsfan said:
I would think that if a Buddy for Kuzma + #22 pick trade was made, the trade would be made before the draft and Kings would be the ones who actually picks the player, but the trade won't become official until after rookies sign their rookie deals.

At 22, I think taking a high risk/high reward player like Zaire Williams would be a good gamble, especially with the Hali-Zaire dynamics.
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Right, but I'm guessing we'd have a list of players that would need to be available at 22 otherwise it might be a different deal or no deal at all. It wouldn't be a totally blind deal.
 
I can see this trade happening, reuniting Walton and Kuzma, but after watching some interviews by Kuzma and reading how much many Laker fans want him gone I hope it doesn’t.
I’m keen on both Buddy and Bagley being moved but this has to be a clear King advantage.
If there’s anything to Indiana’s interest in moving Turner and the 13th, that’s a good place to start.
 
Dongoodboy said:
Buddy for Kuzma and #22 pick isn't a bad return I would say. With how well Hali played it is natural for us to clear a staring spot for him.
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It’s a terrible return. Kyle Kuzma ******* sucks! Primarily an offensive scorer that doesn’t even do that real efficiently.

Why do people think the LAL have been trying to rid themselves of the guy the past couple offseasons???

Again, there’s good reason the KINGS haven’t dealt with LAL in a trade since 1977 or whenever the last one was.

Unless the deal is heavily tilted in the KINGS favor — they shouldn’t even consider possibly helping a hated rival.

If Monte McNair makes a deal like this — he needs to be fired immediately! Better yet, this would be a viable time for Vivek to meddle and “just say NO!”

Dealing with LAL is crazy as it is, let alone talking about Kyle freaking Kuzma. That’s asinine. Especially in trading away one of the best and most efficient volume 3 point shooters next to the Splash Bros.
 
Kings fans should step back from the ledge just a tad; the Lakers have reportedly called up nearly every team in the league offering Kuzma and KCP. They're shopping those guys hard, searching for any way to improve their roster during Lebron's final window for title contention. I'd doubt very seriously that Monte would deal with a division rival on a trade for Kyle Kuzma unless the trade was tilted in the Kings' favor with draft capital, if only to re-route any acquired picks in a future trade for the kind of "win now" player(s) that the Kings are apparently chasing very aggressively. Kuzma alone is certainly not that guy.
 
OMG, the NBC station here in So.Cal is already reporting that the Lakers are in hot pursuit of Buddy in a Kuzma trade.

The Lakers are desperate right now to surround LeBron and AD with shooters for a last run for another championship. They know LeBron's window is closing fast, so they are desperate. I would hold out for at least 2 1st round picks for Buddy.

The Lakers really have no high value trade assets, so I would force them to give me the "Jrue Holiday" type deal for Buddy. Give me Kuzma (our new SF), Harrell (our new Center) and this years #22 pick, along with a 1st round pick in 2027 or 2028.

Buddy is probably the best shooter available in trade right now, so hold the Lakers feet to the fire if they want him!

Make them Lakers pay through the nose!
 
jiimbob said:
I can see this trade happening, reuniting Walton and Kuzma, but after watching some interviews by Kuzma and reading how much many Laker fans want him gone I hope it doesn’t.
I’m keen on both Buddy and Bagley being moved but this has to be a clear King advantage.
If there’s anything to Indiana’s interest in moving Turner and the 13th, that’s a good place to start.
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id be down for Buddy & #9 for Turner
 
Kuzma $13 + Harrell $9.7 =22.7
Buddy = 22.9

Hmmm the numbers look very close.

Buddy for Kuz, Harrell, and 22nd pick. If this is Buddy's worth, then so be it. Ty should be the starting SG.
It depends on who is there at 22, but Harrell is Holmes insurance and stops us from "having" to draft a big.

With this move we save $ and can retain Davis, who I really like as a sixth-man-type player. His defense was surprisingly good.

So in perspective it is really Kuzma (yuck), Harrell, 22nd (Zaire W. or Jared Butler), and the ability to keep T. Davis.

Fox - Wright - F. Mason III (FA)
Ty - Davis - Ramsey
Wagner - Zaire W. - Woodard
Barnes - Harrell - JT Thor
Len (FA) - D. Jones - Metu

Trade fodder: Bagley/Kuz
 
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joemama said:
Kuzma $13 + Harrell $9.7 =22.7
Buddy = 22.9

Hmmm the numbers look very close.

Buddy for Kuz, Harrell, and 22nd pick. If this is Buddy's worth, then so be it. Ty should be the starting SG.
It depends on who is there at 22, but Harrell is Holmes insurance and stops us from "having" to draft a big.

With this move we save $ and can retain Davis, who I really like as a sixth-man-type player. His defense was surprisingly good.

So in perspective it is really Kuzma (yuck), Harrell, 22nd (Zaire W. or Jared Butler), and the ability to keep T. Davis.
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Monte should take that and run.
 
kb02 said:
Monte should take that and run.
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Maybe at this point we are just waiting on Harrell’s decision to exercise his player option. I’m not sure how the timing works on any of that. That package if true seems more than fair and a win/win for both teams (not that I want the Lakers to “win” anything, but in order to get a deal done…)
 
TaxMan said:
Maybe at this point we are just waiting on Harrell’s decision to exercise his player option. I’m not sure how the timing works on any of that. That package if true seems more than fair and a win/win for both teams (not that I want the Lakers to “win” anything, but in order to get a deal done…)
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Pretty sure it's two-fold.
1st Harrell exercizing option (7-31 deadline)
2nd Lakers making draft selection for us
 
TaxMan said:
Maybe at this point we are just waiting on Harrell’s decision to exercise his player option. I’m not sure how the timing works on any of that. That package if true seems more than fair and a win/win for both teams (not that I want the Lakers to “win” anything, but in order to get a deal done…)
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Besides waiting on Harrell to opt in
We might have to wait on Lakers to decide if they Have a shot at DeRosen ,Westbrook or lowry
 
Jkbiker said:
Besides waiting on Harrell to opt in
We might have to wait on Lakers to decide if they Have a shot at DeRosen ,Westbrook or lowry
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they don’t have the cap space for that unless they somehow get a team to take on several of their bigger contracts without taking anything back.
 
The issue with Trez is he's essentially a bad defensive version of Richaun Holmes. Still incredibly effecient scorer/energy guy, but he looked downright awful and got played off the floor multiple this year on defense. He's a good hedge against Holmes leaving, but you'd still need another center to start.

Edit: I guess you could run a Damian Jones-Trez platoon. Where Jones is 18-20 MPG, Trez is 26-28 MPG and close with Trez? Little sketchy, but at least you wouldn't have to allocate more resources to the C slot.
 
Tetsujin said:
Lakers fans are convinced it’s a one-for-one swap but I could see it being a Buddy for Kuz plus their pick this year type of situation.

also Lakers fans are idiots.
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And we’re bigger idiots if we trade Buddy for ****ing Kuzma and picks ranging in the late 20’s
 
TaxMan said:
Maybe at this point we are just waiting on Harrell’s decision to exercise his player option. I’m not sure how the timing works on any of that. That package if true seems more than fair and a win/win for both teams (not that I want the Lakers to “win” anything, but in order to get a deal done…)
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Yea, hopefully. There are a number of players at 22 that I would love a shot at: Donsumu, Butler, Herb Jones, maybe Murphy (though he’s rising fast).
 
The_Jamal said:
The issue with Trez is he's essentially a bad defensive version of Richaun Holmes. Still incredibly effecient scorer/energy guy, but he looked downright awful and got played off the floor multiple this year on defense. He's a good hedge against Holmes leaving, but you'd still need another center to start.

Edit: I guess you could run a Damian Jones-Trez platoon. Where Jones is 18-20 MPG, Trez is 26-28 MPG and close with Trez? Little sketchy, but at least you wouldn't have to allocate more resources to the C slot.
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The thing about Harrell is he can play defense and he does at times, he's just become accustomed to his role as a off the bench offensive punch player and conserves most of his energy for that.
 
dude12 said:
Harrell has issues on D, sure, but he would bring us some toughness which we are lacking. Really, really lacking. As in Terrence Davis is the only guy who would get in someone’s face. We could use Harrell.
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Yeah I've been a Trez fan for a long time. Just saying, you can't rely on him to be a 30+ MPG starting C. He's best used in a 25ish MPG role offensive punch off the bench.
 
Tetsujin said:
With Jones and Metu and another MLE guy, he probably would have to
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Why would the mid-level guy need to be a center?

I am nervous about this draft. Not exactly sure what to think. Will they sacrifice the future simply not to have sole possession of the longest playoff drought in league history? Hoping they keep the 9th and then add to it. Putting expectations too high so a solid draft becomes a disappointment?
 
whozit said:
Why would the mid-level guy need to be a center?

I am nervous about this draft. Not exactly sure what to think. Will they sacrifice the future simply not to have sole possession of the longest playoff drought in league history? Hoping they keep the 9th and then add to it. Putting expectations too high so a solid draft becomes a disappointment?
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Because most of the wings are either going to be too expensive, too old, or would be a horrible use of our MLE and we have absolutely no need for another guard unless we lose TD and Wright in addition to trading Buddy.
 
Tetsujin said:
Because most of the wings are either going to be too expensive, too old, or would be a horrible use of our MLE and we have absolutely no need for another guard unless we lose TD and Wright in addition to trading Buddy.
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Or you save it. Memory is probably going to fail me here. If a player is waived like after the trade deadline, aren't you able to pick them up using the exception or does that just allow you to sign them after clearing?

Or simply not use it or least not use all of it.
 
whozit said:
Or you save it. Memory is probably going to fail me here. If a player is waived like after the trade deadline, aren't you able to pick them up using the exception or does that just allow you to sign them after clearing?

Or simply not use it or least not use all of it.
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MLE doesn’t roll over.
 
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