Sergio should play again instead of Udoka

[Bricklayer]

I don't see Sergio or Udoka getting many minutes, barring injuries.

It wouldn't bother me if one or both got traded away.

they have no trade value

clearly we are going to have to trade away one or more of the non-Casspi/Green guys ahead of them at those spots. Then they can step up to fill in any minutes that open up as a result. But they themselves are essentially not tradeable. Just roleplayers ont he final years fo very small contracts. Only likely way they get traded is as a salary-balancing extra piece in a larger trade.

 

[Kings4life23]

they have no trade value

clearly we are going to have to trade away one or more of the non-Casspi/Green guys ahead of them at those spots. Then they can step up to fill in any minutes that open up as a result. But they themselves are essentially not tradeable. Just roleplayers ont he final years fo very small contracts. Only likely way they get traded is as a salary-balancing extra piece in a larger trade.

I wouldnt want to trade them anyway i like what they bring to the table off the bench its one of those price vs. production and in that respect I like them. The players we should want to get rid of is Noc, K9, and Martin WE NEED A STAR BIG!!!!!

 

[AleksandarN]

Here is the main reason. Defence. When Sergio learns how to play a licck of defence then maybe he has a chance to play ahead of Udoka. Untill he does he is where he belongs and that is on the bench.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Here is the main reason. Defence. When Sergio learns how to play a licck of defence then maybe he has a chance to play ahead of Udoka. Untill he does he is where he belongs and that is on the bench.

This.

 

[nickmcclure]

I don't understand how you make minutes for Sergio (PG) from Udoka (SF)
I think Sergio is a more impressive player than Udoka but if we're playing Sergio more, it means we're taking minutes from Evans (which we shouldn't do if we want to develop him...by the way we do lol) and Beno (who despite sucking last year has been very solid and even clutch this year)

 

[OptimusRhyme]

What I've seen this weekend it's precissely the bolded phrase: the team is struggling in offense. The ball movement has died. The team plays the same gear the complete game.

I'm not claiming Sergio above Beno in the rotation, I'm only saying that the uptempo he can bring to the game has worked in so many matches, and it can really work again in a lot of games. He's deffense sucks, but if he can get hot and make the team score in every possesion and in every fast break, the team scores more than the rival. That's why Sergio is the best of the team in +/- while Udoka is in the negative part of that table. Of course you can start talking about the necessity of a deffense in a long term, the "offense wins games and deffense wins championship", the "run'n'gun teams hadn't never won a ring" issue and that classical stuff against uptempo play, but I'm talking abuout right now. I'm saying that he can make a possitive impact in the team's game right now, because he can up the gears in a way Beno or Tyreke can't.

As long as the team continues losing and playing so ugly I'll claim minutes for him. If Kings were wining without him, I'd understand, as I understood it clearly before his 24pt game. But right now...the team doesn't work.

Ill agree with most of your post. Although sergio was not always effective when he was brought in , he always brought that higher geared running around passing offense which is totally different then Evans PG style. (both styles are good, just very different)

Serg usually threw the opposing defense off when he came in and switched it up with his different style of offense. and it threw them off when he left and Evans switched it back to his style. Hes a great tempo changer and should be used more in that sense.

Beno has been so T/O prone lately anyways. Give sergio some more time.

 

[drboiffard]

I've been in the mountains the whole weekend and I missed the last two matches, so I missed Sergio backing to the rotation. But I guess the Orlando game wa's a enough good example for what we were discussing in this thread about pace changing and having a spark off the bench who changes gears.

Too late however.

 

[FaStRmAn]

Why do we keep having these discussions about Sergio? He is a borderline NBA player that is barely on an NBA roster. He has defensive deficiencies that far outweigh any benefit he brings to the table assist or scoring wise.

I know there are some staunch Sergio apologists on this blog that want Sergio to get more minutes or even start. He just isn't that good! He is a borderline NBA player period. He could not make the roster of most NBA teams even as the last guy on the bench. Look what Portland got in return for the rights to Sergio. Anyone who wants to make an argument that Sergio is anything other than a adequate 3rd string Point guard with defensive liabilities, please provide factual proof!

I like Sergio as a person, but as a point guard he is average to below average in the NBA. He is a below average scorer for someone his size. What he lacks in size he does not make up for anywhere else measurable. Can we now discuss the Kings real problems now, like the lack of a real NBA caliber Center ???

 

[Bricklayer]

Why do we keep having these discussions about Sergio? He is a borderline NBA player that is barely on an NBA roster. He has defensive deficiencies that far outweigh any benefit he brings to the table assist or scoring wise.

I know there are some staunch Sergio apologists on this blog that want Sergio to get more minutes or even start. He just isn't that good! He is a borderline NBA player period. He could not make the roster of most NBA teams even as the last guy on the bench. Look what Portland got in return for the rights to Sergio. Anyone who wants to make an argument that Sergio is anything other than a adequate 3rd string Point guard with defensive liabilities, please provide factual proof!

I like Sergio as a person, but as a point guard he is average to below average in the NBA. He is a below average scorer for someone his size. What he lacks in size he does not make up for anywhere else measurable. Can we now discuss the Kings real problems now, like the lack of a real NBA caliber Center ???

that's a silly overstatement that flies int eh face of what we have sometimes seen. Wildly inconsistent yes. Untalented? No. And has repeatedly functioned a as good change of pace backup for us when he was still part of the rotation.

 

[drboiffard]

He just isn't that good! He is a borderline NBA player period.

False. If you get his 15+mpg games you'll see hisn't that inconistent if he is given the minutes.

Being solid in 3 minutes appereances in the PG spot is an uthopia. Period.

He could not make the roster of most NBA teams even as the last guy on the bench.

In teams such as Indiana, he'd be the starter PG instantly.

Look what Portland got in return for the rights to Sergio.

Maybe they were trying to please his desire to go out instead of trying to improve his team with a useless draft pick. It's just an idea.

Anyone who wants to make an argument that Sergio is anything other than a adequate 3rd string Point guard with defensive liabilities, please provide factual proof!

1. Leads the team in +/- statistic and +/- per minute. The only one with possitive in that stat.

That isn't the proof of him being the best of the team, but it's a proof that his offense compensates his poor deffense. It does. If you want to talk about "deffense wins tournaments" I'd be ok. When the team reaches the playoffs. RIght now, offense wins games. That's what we need.

2. He is an elite level passer. #9 in NBA AST/48min, Best of the team. He almost doubles both Beno and Tyrke in that stat, 11.3 per 6.3. Turnover prone? Of course. Like Nash. Like JWill. Everybody fails. And it's easier to fail in 3 minutes appereances than doing it in consistent time: there as such things as concentration and motivation, altough there isn't a stat for that. But it does matter. He is still the best of the team in AST/TO tough so don't exagerate.

He is a solid backup and he can be starter material in some years if he is given a chance. He is improving his shot year by year and his defense isn't thaaat bad when he wants.

Maybe he won't be the next Steve Nash, but right now he can really make this team play looking a little better. And of course, a lot funier to see.

Inconsistent? Yes. Like anybody who doesn't get regular time and a defined role. He hasn't got them in 3years and a half in the NBA. He'll be as consistent as a rookie.

 

[swisshh]

Sergio's fate is tied to coming trades. There is no way Francisco comes back and the roster isn't changed somehow. There's just no space to be had.

On the road trip, the lack of Sergio was rather glaring due to the offense ramming its head into a rock. When the team is behind and the offense is struggling, Sergio should get a chance to see the floor. He is not getting that chance right now and the reason why I can only assume is Westphal forcing minutes onto KMart, but the truth is that Martin hasn't played well enough to earn those minutes. He is only getting them from status and to rehab.

 

[bloom]

You know what, Sergio should be traded to the Nets for a late 1st round pick. They need another point guard and this would be the perfect time to get another pick.

 

[drboiffard]

Two comebaks that couldn't be finished due to lack of time. Too late, Westphall, too late. If this isn't enough proof Sergio should be back in the rotation, I don't know what it is.

Beno is playing very bad lately. Tyreke and Kevin don't fit and they won't fit: even when they score combined 58 points, they don't reach 10 assists between both. They'll have to score 40 points each one to justify putting together two ball black holes as they are. The kings need more Spanish Chocolate.

I'm sorry but until a trade is done or the Kings start wining consistely, I'm going to refloat this thread again and again.

 

[drogba]

I agree with the "evans is too slow". Either the offense isn't working, or it needs to be explained to evans again. Step one, push the ball until you reach the rim. Step two, score the ball or pass to an open team mate. Step three, repeat. I admit i like to see Evans just free flow and do whatever he does, but it is not the way steve nash gets his Wins. Tyreke was a 1 and now i have to say, he is 100% a 2. I wouldn't go as far as to say we should bench tyreke and start Martin, but can't say we should bench Martin in favor of tyreke. Basically, this team still doesn't have a point who can run the offense and direct traffic and help us win for 48minutes. Beno can be counted on for 20 minutes of high level play on average. bottom line tyreke doesn't create for his team mates enough

tyreke will be a great player but i agree that many times he has the ball and waits for the clock to get to 14 or 12 and then start the move, wich is wrong, PW should tell him to speed things up a bit because the offence gets stuck.