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DWalkfan22
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so, if they are going to announce that Whiz is the new head coach, that means Coach Whiz agreed to it, correct? or can he say, thank u, but no thank u.
startingtohurt
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DWalkfan22 said:
that would be great...if he got offered the job and said "No, we have the chance to win back to back championships and I dont want to turn my back on my players"
Best post in this thread... but I still hope its EllieWarhawk said:While I may not think Whiz would be my first choice (and assuming VF21 is right, because she usually is).....
1. Petrie knows basketball and I am sure is very familiar with Whiz. The Maloofs obviously feel very comfortable with him and their relationship as owners/coach.
2. The guy can coach. Period. At every level he's been at, he's won.
3. Ron-Ron gave him some glowing remarks the other day while attending a game. He didn't seem to have a problem with Whiz.
4. I, for one, want to see what kind of a job he can do before I start bashing him. The guy is a proven winner and deserves our support until he proves otherwise.
5. The Maloofs want to win. Period. They would not do this if they didn't seriously think that he gave them a shot at winning the title.
6. At some point every new coach in the league hadn't been an NBA coach before. Not having NBA experience is not necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me. Not advisable in my book, but not a "deal-breaker" either. Obviously the Maloofs and Petrie feel similarly.
I was wrong about Ron-Ron coming here. I am going to learn from that mistake and give whoever gets chosen a pass on whatever "negatives" are attached and see how he does.
Go Kings and Coach Whiz!
Better than Go Whiz on the Coach, Kings!
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R1LOVER
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not going to happen
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thesanityannex
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Where is the evidence?BMiller52 said:
Right now we have some people saying they have sources...................but that is hardly evidence.
Not that I doubt the sources.
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Fillmoe
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^i hope shes wrong on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
startingtohurt
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5 steps of a King fans reaction to CoachWhiz being hired:
1-shock
2-denial
3-doubt
4-verification
5-acceptance
im thinking we're on step 3 right about now, i know i am
1-shock
2-denial
3-doubt
4-verification
5-acceptance
im thinking we're on step 3 right about now, i know i am
shaka zulu
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There is no logic behind this move from my perspective.
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thesanityannex
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Thats the boat I'm in. Hop aboard.Kings113 said:
HndsmCelt
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Hireing Whiz makes PERFECT sense if you compare him to the other candidates. I do NOT like to asume the Maloofs are stupid, they wanted to go a different direction than Adelman so they could NOT give him a new contract, almost any guy currently working as an assistant coach would want at least 3 years gaurneteed and god only knows what a former head coach like Nelly or Brown would want. So if you won't go with Rick and are not thrilled with the other offerings what do you do? You go temporary. Sign Whiz and keep looking untill you find a guy you like and who knows in the mena time Whiz may surprise the critics and make things happen. But if as most folks would expect the season goes south on you as soon as you find your guy you can get your buddy Coach Whiz to agree to break the contract and give him his old job back on your WNBA team, no harm no foul. Still can't say I LIKE the move but I understand it compleetly.
Say what now? No harm, no foul?HndsmCelt said:
Whether you intended it as such or not, that is utterly patronizing to the Monarchs. And what makes you think that, if that scenario were to transpire, that the ladies would follow him?
Padrino
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HndsmCelt said:
the bolded is your prerogative. however, it does not negate the fact that it is a stupid move. if the maloofs want to keep the kings in sacramento (debateable), it is necessary to put a winning team on the floor to insure that the city will meet them halfway on a deal that the city may or may not consider worthwhile. an "interim" coach is only necessary when you fire somebody. technically, the maloofs did not fire adelman. they chose not to sign him to another contract, and have stated that they are looking to hire somebody long term. if the maloofs actually knew what they were doing (thereby affirming your conviction that they are not, in fact, stupid), then they would have fired adelman before this season's end, and hired somebody--anybody--to fill the void until they could create a more appealing solution. as it stands, though, the fans of this team are going to be up in arms over this decision, because anybody with half a brain can tell you that whisenant is not qualified to coach the sacramento kings--given the alternatives, and that does not bode well for arena discussions.
the hypothetical situation that you presented is too farfetched for me to give any credence to. the maloofs are reactionary coaches. they run their team how they want to run their team, and adelman was the coach they inherited when they became majority owners. the situation that seems much more likely is that the maloofs are impatient and want to test the limits of their big toy of a franchise. they want to play GM just like all fans want to play GM. however, they are not thinking intelligently or objectively about it, and are instead throwing a bone to one of their family friends, who is all of a sudden qualified to coach a successful nba franchise because he has won a single championship with a wnba team. i broke down why this is not a qualification in the other major thread discussing this topic, so i will not broach the subject again. suffice it to say, though, that the maloofs certainly are not making a case for affirming the assumption that you hold about their basketball intelligence.
HndsmCelt
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Padrino your really over read into what I meant when I said I'd would like to asume the Maloofs are not stupid. I did not mean to infer that the decision to to rehire Adelaman was SMART only that the hireing of Whiz was not blind nor irrational. As you corretly point out Adelman was NOT fired, when a coach is fired their contract has to be bought out. So the Malofs let him finish out the season and would like to replace him. The PROBLEM comes when you look at who is AVAILABLE and if we asume they are NOT stupid then it makes sense to hire a guy you can easily get rid of when the right candidate DOES become availalbe.
Slim, while it may be partonizing to the Monarchs to take their coach and asume they will be just fine with having him shiped back should he not work out remember I did not ADVOCATE doing this I simply hypothised that the Maloofs were DOING it.
Sure I could be way off base here, but what are the alternative theories/explinations?
(1) That the Maloofs are absoulty right that Adelman was not the right guy and they went out, conducted interviews and hired a guy they belived would take the team to the next level who just happend to be the guy coaching thier WNBA franchise.
(2) That the Maloofs are clueless bafoons who wanted to get rid of Rick and honestly think their good friend Coach Whiz will take the team to the next level?
I'd say my sceanario while not prety or cheery is the most likely explination.
Slim, while it may be partonizing to the Monarchs to take their coach and asume they will be just fine with having him shiped back should he not work out remember I did not ADVOCATE doing this I simply hypothised that the Maloofs were DOING it.
Sure I could be way off base here, but what are the alternative theories/explinations?
(1) That the Maloofs are absoulty right that Adelman was not the right guy and they went out, conducted interviews and hired a guy they belived would take the team to the next level who just happend to be the guy coaching thier WNBA franchise.
(2) That the Maloofs are clueless bafoons who wanted to get rid of Rick and honestly think their good friend Coach Whiz will take the team to the next level?
I'd say my sceanario while not prety or cheery is the most likely explination.
Bricklayer
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Actually I'm pretty sure it was #2.
Ego run amok. They want control and an *** kisser. They think they are the shiznit. So they get an all in one package in Whiz. He'll kiss ***, and they are deluded enough to think they've got it all figured out + will bask in the glory of their brilliance when Whiz proves everybody wrong. But most importantly, he's "theirs". I'm seriously not sure why Geoff puts up with this. If he resigned he could have his choice of available GM spots out there, and without pathetic swell headed amateurs pulling the Al Davis on him.
The other options right now are as strong as they ever are, or will be. Outside of thier Phil Jackson fetish, this is what it looks like when you fire a major coach. What it ALWAYS looks like. Assistants, retreads, and reaches. Certainly not going to be better in 6 months or whatnot, let alone a year.
Ego run amok. They want control and an *** kisser. They think they are the shiznit. So they get an all in one package in Whiz. He'll kiss ***, and they are deluded enough to think they've got it all figured out + will bask in the glory of their brilliance when Whiz proves everybody wrong. But most importantly, he's "theirs". I'm seriously not sure why Geoff puts up with this. If he resigned he could have his choice of available GM spots out there, and without pathetic swell headed amateurs pulling the Al Davis on him.
The other options right now are as strong as they ever are, or will be. Outside of thier Phil Jackson fetish, this is what it looks like when you fire a major coach. What it ALWAYS looks like. Assistants, retreads, and reaches. Certainly not going to be better in 6 months or whatnot, let alone a year.
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R1LOVER
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There going to need a new coach in Vegas anyway, why not get a temp for now. lol
This guy is just a temp............
If this is how things pan out in the next few days, everyone in the nba will be laughing at us for sure.
This guy is just a temp............
If this is how things pan out in the next few days, everyone in the nba will be laughing at us for sure.
Monty'sBiggestFan
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Only slightly more patronizing than hiring him midseason in the first place. This is just impulsively dumb on a variety of levels, and I wouldn't put it past them to be thinking that way.
HndsmCelt
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Well of course you could be right, only time will tell. As for future avalalbility of coaches that is the bedauty of time, anything can happen and when you are looking to trade up flexablity and manuverablity are vital. Im not sure what coaching contracts are up next season but anything can happen.Bricklayer said:
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Bricklayer said:
Very nice and accurate
I'm thinking to myself that I have seen my last kings game in person.
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