Sam Amicks Twitter...Rubio at #4

i would understand if it was harden but derozan!?

my only thoughts with these are that they put up awesome work outs and that gms are worried that rubios athletic abilities wont translate well in the nba..

derozan and thabeet must have had 49 inch verts :D
 
Aenadin said:
i would understand if it was harden but derozan!?

my only thoughts with these are that they put up awesome work outs and that gms are worried that rubios athletic abilities wont translate well in the nba..

derozan and thabeet must have had 49 inch verts :D
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Thabeet is 7'3" -- in this draft that is about the surest commodity available. DeRozan...that's swinging for the fences if they actually go that way.
 
I have been hoping in the back of my head this happens....Maloofs can PIMP the crap out of Rubio.

Rubio, Thompson, Hawes (Donte) our future for the next 10+ years?? :D:D
 
damn id be so pumped up for the next season if this is true.... id buy the jersey and all the merchandise possible
 
Bricklayer said:
Well that one has been suspected, but note that that is hoopsworld. You have just quoted the National Enquirer of NBA reporting. Next up the not surprising story that not all of Wilt's 20,000 women were human and that Sam Cassel is his alien love child.
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The source isn't hoopsworld. It's Draft Express. Hoopsworld of late has gained a LOT of credibility in my opinion. Instead of fabricating news, like they used to, they're now just reporting it. They have their op-ed's and what not, but take that with a grain of salt.

The source of THIS rumor is straight from the pen of Jonathan Givony.
 
I dont know about this, its almost bad news, IMO.

If the Thunder decide to go Derozan at 3, I see them being able to trade that pick down a few spots EASILY if Rubio is still on the board. I like Derozan, he has potential for sure, but that is a reach .. when you have the Knicks at 9 looking at Rubio in D'antoni's offense and a David Lee to trade, you have to think about that if your OKC .. If they come out of the draft with David Lee and Derozan, wow.

On the other hand, its good news if the draft order stays as is, but I just dont see that happening with a team reaching for Derozan or Harden at #3 ... Its too easy to trade down when Mr. Ricky Rubio is still on the board... We should send a spy to the OKC 'War' Room and see who they want, then we tell them will take there man if they trade to a team that will take Rubio ;)
 
Aenadin said:
jonathan givony is he gold?
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He's...opinionated. But he's the most visible self appointed scout for those of us not actually in the NBA scouting loop. Runs a very strong site called draftexpress.com. Sometimes he is right, sometimes he is wrong, but he goes into great detail, is generally credible, and of late seems to have gained traction beyond his own website and has started to be quoted on espn, nba.com etc. I actually haven't been as impressed with his rumor mongering as his scouting, but its a far cry from the wholly invented stuff that a guy like Vescey spews.
 
i think they stick with harden or derozan rather than risk him being taken by another team..

besides i dont think new york would trade ANYTHINg other than expiring contracts.. they have that lebron 2010 plan in their heads. and no way would they take a 3 2 year contract.

we can definitely use the KT expiring here to swallow a contract and a pick from them. though
 
Bricklayer said:
He's...opinionated. But he's the most visible self appointed scout for those of us not actually in the NBA scouting loop. Runs a very strong site called draftexpress.com. Sometimes he is right, sometimes he is wrong, but he goes into great detail, is generally credible, and of late seems to have gained traction beyond his own website and has started to be quoted on espn, nba.com etc. I actually haven't been as impressed with his rumor mongering as his scouting, but its a far cry from the wholly invented stuff that a guy like Vescey spews.
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i know of his draftexpress.. and last year he got his picks from 1 to 9 right.. lets hope he is right again this year
 
Just as I mentioned above, That if Rubio is on the board for OKC to pick and they dont want to pick him that they should trade down because thats a player teams may actually want to trade up for .... ESPN has a 'rumor' that they may want to trade down to get Curry .. doesnt make much sense to me but a rumor is a rumor, I agree with the strategy, I just think they would be better off not drafting a PG.
 
Bricklayer said:
Thabeet is 7'3" -- in this draft that is about the surest commodity available. DeRozan...that's swinging for the fences if they actually go that way.
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And the fence is about 500 ft from home plate. If they pick DeRozan at 3, they'd be a laughing stock. They'd better hope he ends up being awesome.
 
I have a feeling that Sam Presti will pull off a surprise this year - and while he does like athletic players, DeRozan doesn't solve the Thunder's shooting woes. Maybe he picks DeRozan for upside and takes a veteran shooter in Free Agency.

Then again, this might be pure BS or a rumor spread by OKC brass to throw off other front offices...

Either way, it gets me thinking: what's wrong with Rubio?
 
One and Done said:
Either way, it gets me thinking: what's wrong with Rubio?
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Loaded question. There are a number of reasons Mem/OKC could pass on Rubio that have nothing to do with something being "wrong" with him.

Off the top of my head: drafting by need over BPA, truly being scared off by the anti-Mem/OKC comments of Rubio's agent (and not wanting that hassle), feeling another player's style "fits" better with their team concept, precursor to trading down with a team who doesn't need/want Rubio because they already have an established/star PG, making a "safe" pick rather than swinging for the fences with a young, raw commidity, etc.
 
I thought Westbrook was a reach last year at #4 (based on draft ranking, not talent), but that pick worked out real well for them so I can't be too critical. DeRozan might be the third best player in this draft potential-wise. I guess if you're getting the guy you want, it doesn't matter that much where other people have them ranked (see: Thompson, Jason). Position-wise it only makes sense if they see DeRozan as a SG not a SF. I don't know about that one. Size-wise he could play either position, but do guys who shoot less than 17% from the college three-point line really belong at SG? I think I'd rather have him closer to the basket. Durant and Green are both caught in the SF/PF range already and Westbrook is more of a combo guard than a pure PG. That's a lot of unconventional position assignments in one lineup. Harden seems like a better fit because he can take some of the playmaking duties from Westbrook.
 
Vlade4GM said:
The draft is still less than a month away guys. Anything we hear now is either BS or posturing.
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So very true. People are just as likely to "leak" misinformation to keep other teams guessing.
#1 is a no brainer - it has to be Griffin. If it's to the Clips or someone else making a move, he goes there.
After that, there's a bit of speculation over the next 5 (Thabeet and Rubio are in there), and then it's truly anyone's guess after that. Personal stocks will soar and fall, but you won't get anything definitive until draft day.

Still, it's fun to speculate, but that's all it is.
 
I just really think kings fans are putting too much faith and hope into Rubio. They think he's going to be a star and save the Kings. When they hear the 3rd pick might not go for him, it's "WHAAT!? Crazy" because they are overrating him. This kind of view is setting the fans up for nothing but disappointment IMO, just like the draft lottery.
 
Showtime said:
I just really think kings fans are putting too much faith and hope into Rubio. They think he's going to be a star and save the Kings. When they hear the 3rd pick might not go for him, it's "WHAAT!? Crazy" because they are overrating him. This kind of view is setting the fans up for nothing but disappointment IMO, just like the draft lottery.
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I think it only sounds that way because people are excited at the prospect of getting probably the no.2 talent in the draft with the 4th pick. Rubio may not end up being a star, but he has a lot more going for him than many of the other lotto prospects.
 
Actually as each day passes by, I can actually see a method in which Rubio falls to us...and it's all because I'm getting vibes that Memphis is not much into Rubio at all (maybe they like Conley that much? After all, he's still young) and are really looking at Thabeet. And then OKC seems invested at Westbrook as their future point, and so they don't mind taking James Harden instead. If no trades are made and the draft from #1-3 occurs straight up, it's very probable that we would end up with Rubio. That would be great--those other teams don't need a point guard as much as we do (well, the Clippers technically do, but they're gunning for BPA) so conceivably Rubio could just fall into our laps and it would be a perfect fit.
 
Neither Memphis or OKC wants to burn a top 3 pick is my thought. Rubio has that big buy out, if he doesnt want to come over to play for one of them then he probably wont. I dont know what GP did to sell him on the Kings, but...Well played!

It is a ways from draft day though, a lot can happen. But now that the lotto has passed and our dreams of a #1 pick have been shattered, its time to build up hope that we can actually get ourselves a PG!
 
If anyone of the #2 or #3 pick would need a PG more, its the Grizz.

OKC has Westbrook. While there are talks of them using him at the 2, westbrook had stated himself that he wants to play the 1. He has a size advantage against most PGs right now, but he would be smaller than most SGs. Why would Westbrook want to have to cover 6'7" guys everyday. They really need a good SG then they would have 4 promising young players in their starting line up. If they can trade for and sign a FA big man, they are the next Blazers.

Conley though that was his 2nd yr, did not play as well as westbrook. But he did improve in the last part of the season to show that he may turn out to be a decent player. Grizz used their #4 pick to get him. I don't think they are ready to give up completely just yet. 7'3" centers don't come along every yr. So I can see them taking Thabeet.

If Rubio does fall to #4, a few problems may occur. Will he have enough $ to pay his team in Spain for the buyout with the #4 pick salary? Remember, he still has to get taxed first. I know he'll get endorsements but its going to be close. Assuming this part works out, will GP really pick Rubio? He seems to like Holiday and it wouldn't be the first time GP picks someone that no one expects him to pick at their draft #.
 
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