Sacramento TV and Radio Future
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I respect your opinion as do I most of the others in this debate. In all honesty, I really cannot get too excited about Grant Napear one way or the other. I don't listen to his radio show because the only station I get over the air up here is KFBK. I don't want to waste my bandwidth listening on the computer, so unless there's something important going on, I don't care.
And you know what? The NBA approved the sale today and, at least to this Kings fan, there's nothing more important than that.
If Grant stays as the PBP announcer, I'll still watch the games. If he leaves, I'll still watch the games. It's about the players on the court, not the guy talking into the microphone. Heck, I did PBP for years by watching my TV and typing it into my computer to enter here at KF for all the folks who couldn't get game info any other way. It's not exactly rocket surgery.
I'm in too good a mood to sweat the small stuff. And right now, after all we've been through, it's pretty much all small stuff.
King Baller
All-Star
It looks like the Anti-Grant tide is rolling. His NY attitude does require a certain something. For those of you wanting someone more congenial, how about this guy:
Yep, lets just chug on over to namby pamby land and find a nice talk show host
KB
Yep, lets just chug on over to namby pamby land and find a nice talk show host
KB
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King Baller
All-Star
I respect your opinion as do I most of the others in this debate. In all honesty, I really cannot get too excited about Grant Napear one way or the other. I don't listen to his radio show because the only station I get over the air up here is KFBK. I don't want to waste my bandwidth listening on the computer, so unless there's something important going on, I don't care.
And you know what? The NBA approved the sale today and, at least to this Kings fan, there's nothing more important than that.
If Grant stays as the PBP announcer, I'll still watch the games. If he leaves, I'll still watch the games. It's about the players on the court, not the guy talking into the microphone. Heck, I did PBP for years by watching my TV and typing it into my computer to enter here at KF for all the folks who couldn't get game info any other way. It's not exactly rocket surgery.
I'm in too good a mood to sweat the small stuff. And right now, after all we've been through, it's pretty much all small stuff.
I agree with the above 100% GO KINGS!!!
kb
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
grant's radio show needs to go. i was sick of hearing him rip fans that called in to talk about kings issues. that's selling out the fans right there. he's ok on TV.
i like the bringing back kayte idea. she was knowledgeable unlike that one asian chick they had.
Telemachus
Starter
I can remember 10 years ago getting 1140 down near Ensenada, but for some reason it doesn't get good range anymore. I once got KNBR while driving through the Pan handle of Texas (at night), and it was coming in as clear as a bell.
Telemachus
Starter
I listen to Grant all the time, and he always held that the Kings would never leave Sacramento. Not once did he concede that they would move anywhere, including Ahaheim, Las Vegas, or Seattle. There are plenty of times I have had problems with things Grant has said or done, but he has always said that he thought this team would end up staying in Sacramento.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I don't understand why people listen to Grant's radio show if it is so awful. As long as people listen, his shows will have sponsors and it will continue to be on the air.
"I think Grant's show is awful and I listen every day so I should know." This seems to be the theme. Makes no sense. Why the self torture?
"I think Grant's show is awful and I listen every day so I should know." This seems to be the theme. Makes no sense. Why the self torture?
Because it is the ONLY station to get any Kings news while in the car, etc. He does interviews with coaches, owners, players, etc. When someone has a monopoly on something, that is where you have to go to get your info.
Gary
All-Star
I listen to his show, but I also have my iPhone in my car as well so I could pretty much get any radio station in the USA
It was really fun listening to 1090 The Fan out of Seattle for the last month or so. Some of their insight over there was a bit comical but it gave me perspective from the other side through the process.
It's really nice though because my car stereo works with the iPhone and I can preset stations on my stereo and when the iPhone is hooked up I can just go from station to station wherever it is in the USA.
Sacramento has no good rock stations so I have a few of those as well programmed in but I mostly listen to Pandora if I want music.
Bibbilicious
Bench
Just throwing this out there guys. Bill Walton as the voice with....wait for it.....Gary Busey as his color analyst!! Every night could be a game of how long you can listen to them at one time without questioning your life. Thats fan interaction if I've ever heard it! lol
Agree 100%. People overlook these things. There's a reason why the majority of sports announcers have been doing it for years. People like to hear those familiar voices calling their teams games. Sure Grant and Jerry probably aren't the best, but overall they do a good job. Grant has a great play by play voice, has some trademark calls and even gets his calls put on Sportscenter from time to time. Jerry is goofy but he knows the Kings history better than just about anybody. You get some new guys in here and they're going to know less about the team than most of the fans. Sometimes when you try and "upgrade" you don't always end up with what you wished for.
See: Rick Adelman, Chris Webber.
I've only listened to Grant on the radio a couple times. The majority of Kings fans (and people in general) don't listen to AM radio. People can't let their opinion of "1140 Grant" cloud your judgement on tv grant. I'd guess only about 5-10% of Kings fans listen to his radio show. The majority of people only know him from TV where he's actually a pretty fair announcer. He calls a spade a spade and gives credit when credit is due. If he's overly gushing on some player it's probably a management call to give that player a push.
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TyFreak Evans
Bench
I respect your opinion as do I most of the others in this debate. In all honesty, I really cannot get too excited about Grant Napear one way or the other. I don't listen to his radio show because the only station I get over the air up here is KFBK. I don't want to waste my bandwidth listening on the computer, so unless there's something important going on, I don't care.
And you know what? The NBA approved the sale today and, at least to this Kings fan, there's nothing more important than that.
If Grant stays as the PBP announcer, I'll still watch the games. If he leaves, I'll still watch the games. It's about the players on the court, not the guy talking into the microphone. Heck, I did PBP for years by watching my TV and typing it into my computer to enter here at KF for all the folks who couldn't get game info any other way. It's not exactly rocket surgery.
I'm in too good a mood to sweat the small stuff. And right now, after all we've been through, it's pretty much all small stuff.
Spoken like a true Kings fan.
I, too, don't care much about Grant Napear. He, at times, does get on my nerves, but I guess that is his personality. Jerry Reynolds, IMO, can be leaps and bounds more annoying than Napear at times, but again, that is just my opinion. I think the best PBP guy the Kings have, by far and again IMO, is Gary Gerould on the radio. If Grant leaves, it will be like when Chris Webber got dealt. We will miss him for a while, but then eventually we will move on. If Gary Gerould leaves the radio side, I might have to start a riot.
Times change, and with that people must change. One way a sports franchise can change with time, and with people, is to spice up the individuals most closely associated with that franchise. If someone out there feels that another fresh body can jump in and fill Grant's void, then by all means, allow that person to recruit that fresh body.
TyFreak Evans
Bench
Seeing that we now have an Indian owner, I think there is a really good possibility that we might end up seeing some Indian announcers (radio and/or tv) in the near future. I would imagine Ranadive will try to get some major Kings coverage all the way out to India and other countries with a high population of Indian folks...
Right. Anything Kings related will get big ratings in Sacramento, especially at that time slot. This was true before Grant had a radio show and will be true after Grant leaves. You really can't get Kings talk outside of these local shows. So you just have to talk about the Kings and its insta-ratings. Grant has the most Kings access so he will get the equivalent ratings.
Also, I'm kind of disappointed so many of you fell for Grant's new job begging routine. "Oh I had disagreements with the Maloofs! Honest!" All we know is that Grant will tell the fans they're wrong even when he claims to know they're right just to appease the boss man. Going forward that is a problem. As stated, he has the greatest hold over the fanbase due to national sports ignoring Sacramento, and what he did with that power was abuse it for the purpose of the ownership. The reason people like the Maloofs felt they could be as bad as they were is because they see the fanbase as dolts. They see that they can order a guy like Grant around to peddle their nonsense and keep people in line. Any owner is going to eye that sort of situation with possibly bad intentions. It's an unhealthy situation and needs to change. Too many people were angry at the Bee for being critical of the Kings when that is EXACTLY what the media needed to be at the time. The fans must hold the media accountable so the media holds the higher-ups accountable.
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People just need to get a grip. It's not like you're bringing Grant Napear into your house and asking him to marry your daughter.
He's a sports radio talk show host, not your trusted pastor or teacher or doctor or anything else that really truly matters. You can tune in for the news you want to hear and then ...guess what? There's a little knob you can use to stop listening.
The idea proposed by swisshh that Grant Napear somehow had the power to brainwash a lot of Kings fans is an insult to all Kings fans. As for the comment that "the fans must hold the media accountable," there's one problem with that. GRANT NAPEAR ISN'T THE MEDIA. He's a sports radio talk show host.
If you want to grab torches and pitchforks over somebody, why not target Jason Jones, the Kings BEAT REPORTER for the Sacramento Bee? He's an embarrassment and knows less about the Kings, Sacramento fans and sports in general than anybody not named Ric Bucher.
He's a sports radio talk show host, not your trusted pastor or teacher or doctor or anything else that really truly matters. You can tune in for the news you want to hear and then ...guess what? There's a little knob you can use to stop listening.
The idea proposed by swisshh that Grant Napear somehow had the power to brainwash a lot of Kings fans is an insult to all Kings fans. As for the comment that "the fans must hold the media accountable," there's one problem with that. GRANT NAPEAR ISN'T THE MEDIA. He's a sports radio talk show host.
If you want to grab torches and pitchforks over somebody, why not target Jason Jones, the Kings BEAT REPORTER for the Sacramento Bee? He's an embarrassment and knows less about the Kings, Sacramento fans and sports in general than anybody not named Ric Bucher.
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I don't follow the logic. When Houston brought Yao Ming into the mix and increased their audience by about a bazillion, they didn't bring in a Chinese announcer.
macadocious
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I think he might have meant Hindi-speaking announcers for secondary broadcasts aimed at India. At least, that's how I took it.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I took it EXACTLY like you did although with more careful reading, perhaps this isn't what he/she meant.
kingjatt
Starter
hopefully vivek and co can see thru these last ditch efforts by grant to show that he is on "the fans side" and figure out what he did to us during the time of the arena negotiations falling apart. I remember him lobbing softballs to george in that disgusting interview and after weeks of praising the deal he went with the montra that it wasnt a good deal and the maloofs were right in not taking the deal, again screaming that they wernt broke, palms was a seperate entity and all that other crap. I remember a perfectly reasonable caller making a case for why it was time for the maloofs to sell and grant lost it, screaming "THE TEAM IS NOT FOR SALE" about 10 times in a row at him before hanging up on him, then while the arena deal was still on everyones mind he proceeded to announce that he would no longer discuss arena issues and the kings were staying 100%. he was ok during the anaheim thing knowing that he would still have a job down there but the second seattle became real and he knew it was sac or bust he immediately jumped on the grassroots stuff having never mentioned it before.
it wasnt so much the backing of his bosses but the shouting down of fans with rational opinions.
Grant and Jerry must go even though jerry is a nice guy, he simply cannot analyze basketball well enough, its basically just him trying his best to dumb it down. Grant is ok at strictly PBP but easily replaceable, at this point this organization is covered in to much magoof slime to retain everyone on the basketball ops and presentation side (aside from GG). tough decsions will be made and the new owners dont hold the sentimental value to these guys that some of us do.
CD is smart to align himself with grant, grant has alot of pull at that station and im sure we will see CD back in some capacity real soon, marcos and Jim were right but they cant do for CD what grant can.
it wasnt so much the backing of his bosses but the shouting down of fans with rational opinions.
Grant and Jerry must go even though jerry is a nice guy, he simply cannot analyze basketball well enough, its basically just him trying his best to dumb it down. Grant is ok at strictly PBP but easily replaceable, at this point this organization is covered in to much magoof slime to retain everyone on the basketball ops and presentation side (aside from GG). tough decsions will be made and the new owners dont hold the sentimental value to these guys that some of us do.
CD is smart to align himself with grant, grant has alot of pull at that station and im sure we will see CD back in some capacity real soon, marcos and Jim were right but they cant do for CD what grant can.
sidney
Starter
Latest example of Jones' lack of Sacramento knowledge:
Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones 1h
@drewsf7 For the record, I've never heard the band Cake.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
You keep defending Grant, which is fine as everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what I don't get is that if a poster here acts the way Grant does towards many callers and has over many years, you'd ban him within a few days. I can't go around here calling other posters morons, telling them to jump off buildings and dunk their head in the toilet because they don't know what the hell they're talking about. I can't flat out call another poster a freakin moron, which I've heard Grant say numerous times and all of these are examples of what he says to callers, Kings fans, Sacramento residents.
So I'm generally curious, why are you defending Grant so much when you quickly silence any posters here who act the same way? Seems hypocritical to me to downplay the way Grant treats Kings fans while being up in arms if someone here were to do the same. You generally preach civility more than any MOD here, so I find it quite odd you're a staunch defender of arguably the least civil sports radio host I've ever heard.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Well said and totally accurate - "dude" - to use a typical response from said MOD.
Livinthedream
All-Star
Really? What you missed when you listened to Grant is that during the the whole Anaheim thing, he repeatedly said that the Maloofs can do what they want and that the city failed and he doesn't blame the Maloofs for wanting to leave. Grant knew very well that the city hadn't failed and that the Maloofs had sabotaged a couple of arena deals. Anyone who called his show with a counterpoint to his, routinely got ripped or hung up on. Grant figured he would still have a job with the Maloofs in charge if the moved to Anaheim, so he was covering his butt. That's not supporting Sacramento. That's supporting himself. What is in Grant's best interest now is showing Ranadive what a great guy he is and how much he supports this community. And that's fine. He can do what he needs to do to protect his job. However, there are consequences to the things you do and he alienated a good portion of his listeners. Some won't come back.
Don't put words into my mouth. I did not say brainwash. I said he peddled the Maloofs lies and he did do that. My point is that he speaks from a point of power due to his position and that his audience is pretty much a captive audience. You can turn the dial (I do as many others do), but you won't get Kings news on the rest of the dial. I listen to the bay area stations, but not when there's important Kings news. They will spend a short segment break on the Kings and then move on. If I want more information and discussion about the Kings then KHTK is pretty much it. That is why they have ratings power on that station. The same is true of 1530 when they had the Kings.
Considering he had a captive audience, and that he was the face of the station that held that audience, Grant did a horrible disservice to the community and fans in how he handled the situation. The way he and the Maloofs behaved reflected an idea that the Sacramento audience is gullible and easy to manipulate and pacify.
To back up my point, I turn on Napear's show because of your comment that he tried to save face and explain his position. So I turn it on today as I'm driving across the bay. He goes over what the KHTK guy on before him said, that it's time now to talk about future moves the Kings can make and that it's time to talk basketball. Okay, I'm with him there. He then says he thinks the first big decision this franchise make is what to do with Demarcus Cousins. I think the first big decision is the GM, but I can see how it can be Cousins. No problem so far. He then proceeds to propose a trade of Demarcus Cousins to the Boston Celtics for Jeff Green. Instant spit-take. Was he serious? He seemed serious. Was this a conversation hypothetical? Unclear. The next three callers then proceed to agree with trading Cousins. Whaaa? Then the fourth caller praises Napear for how he handled the show in the recet past in concern to the Maloofs. WHAAAAAAAAT THE HELL.
Who are these Kings fans? These aren't the fans I know. These aren't the fans on this forum. Even the biggest Cousins haters here wouldn't trade him for Jeff Green. That's one of the dumbest trades I've ever heard proposed by a show host. So I am still waiting to see if its a joke. If this is all show. Finally a caller challenges the Jeff Green trade idea and Napear backs up the seriousness of his idea, and says he would make that trade in a heartbeat.
He's an idiot. He pacifies his audience for either himself or his employer. The voice of the fans needed someone like him to say what needed to be said and he chickened out. He's brash enough to propose such a ridiculous trade and have people call in to agree with him. He must go.
I'm not sure that's a particularly fair analogy. The "defense" you are talking about seems to consist of "I like his play-by-play. I don't listen to his radio show. If you think he's a jerk on his radio show, don't listen, but that doesn't make him bad at play-by-play."
Now, if Grant acted like that on his play-by-play you'd have a point. But your take is almost like asking VF to ban RespectfulGrantNapear at KingsFans because ZombieGrantNapear at SonicsRising is a troll.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
If you don't like Grant thats fine. If everyone liked the same thing it would be a boring world. But your dead wrong about Grant, or his producer cherry picking the lowest IQ callers to be on the show. My wife in another life used to work for there, and helped as an assistant on the show. I personally knew two of his producers, and they don't cherrypick based on intelligence, but on subject. Grant, in studio is the consumate professional and comes in very prepared for every show. I have some problems with Grant that have nothing to do with his show, or his on air personality. Contrary to what you may think, Grant's show is one of the highest rated shows in northern california, so someone likes him.
As for his play by play, I think he and Jerry are one of the top teams in the NBA. I especially believe this after switching to NBA TV and listening to all the announcers around the league. While they may tout their own players accomplishments during the game, they are equallly critical of mistakes, and often give praise to the other teams players. Be careful what you wish for. As for Gary Gerald, I knew him personally and he is one of the nicest men I've ever met in my life. He is in fact, exactly who he appears to be on the radio.
You're entitled to your opinion. I've stated mine, which was that I FEEL people are really making way too much of this whole Grant thing. I'm over the stuff that went before. I'd like to see others move on.
Purple Haze - You've made attacks on Grant and his personal life. You've got NO room to talk at all.
TyFreak Evans
Bench
I should have been more clear, but Capt. Factorial is correct. I don't mean Indian/Hindi speaking announcers to announce the games in English (and replace Grant and Jerry). I mean getting Indian/Hindi speaking announcers to announce the games on whichever channel(s) carry the game in India and/or countries with a large Indian/Hindi speaking population...This all, of course, assumes the games will be shown all the way out in India, and other countries...
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