[Game] Sacramento Kings (3) @ Golden State Warriors (6) (WCDS Game 4, 2-1) 4/23/2023 12:30pm Pacific 3:30pm Eastern (ABC)

Draymond is back! Today, he will:

  • Play a clean game

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Play a dirty game but get away with it

    Votes: 27 69.2%
  • Get a technical foul

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • Get ejected on technical fouls

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Get a Flagrant 1 foul

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Get a Flagrant 2 foul (automatic ejection)

    Votes: 2 5.1%

  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
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Barnes has won a few games with walk off deep shots. He's proven to be a clutch shooter. It just didn't go down this time
I agreed that Barnes had made them before, who doesn't? The point is...this team should learn to go with the hot hands because that give you a better chance of winning. And that's Monk. I will take a contested Monk than a wide open Barnes in this game. Hell, I would even sub in Huerter for Barnes. Barnes is trying hero ball and keep missing in this game.
 
If Kings went on and lose the series, they should upgrade Barnes and Huerter. That's the ONLY positions that they can upgrade to take them to another level. There is a ceiling in Barnes game and he had maxed out imo. His individual defense is not overwhelming anybody and at time suspicious because he can be soft at imposing his will. He isn't tall enough to tower and intimidate anybody. Huerter is a liability on defense cause he isn't strong enough and also slow at defensive reaction. That's why Mike Brown can't afford to have him on the court in crunch time despite needing him to score.
Easier said than done, however, eyes on Toronto folks. This could be one of those summers that changes futures for a team like Sacramento along with the rest of the West. If that happens all of a sudden players like Huerter and Barnes will look fantastic as 4th and 5th options. Then you've maybe got Sasha coming in as that next up DHO guy. It's all there potentially and the hurt will only be temporary.
 
And Kerr obviously knew that was the plan by sending the high double haha. Yep, good shot but this another question of why even have Domas out on the floor then? Flattening out the defense works even better with 4 3 points shooters out there.
Preferably would have put out Huerter, Barnes, Keegan, Monk and Fox and see who theyre going to leave open to double Fox
 
And Kerr obviously knew that was the plan by sending the high double haha. Yep, good shot but this another question of why even have Domas out on the floor then? Flattening out the defense works even better with 4 3 points shooters out there.
because the Kings only needed a two and the Warriors would have to account for Domas going to the hoop on a Fox drive for an easy one..or if they get the shot off quicker and there is a miss you want your best rebounder out there. In the end, the Kings got a good shot.
 
Feels like this debate is extreme arm chair quarterbacking. Barnes got a great look. He hasn’t been on this series but he’s percentage wise over the course of the year a better three point shooter than monk. Fox had to make a split second decision. If anything I guess I would have preferred fox just attack the middle straight away without taking any clock on the possession.
I like to know who is a better shooter in crunch time...not the overall percentage. I bet Monk is the overwhelmingly favorite. There are players that thrive under pressure and there are players that folded.
 
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Getting the champs in the first round, and making them have to dig deep to beat you? Can't buy that kind of experience.
I have taken a lot of enjoyment listening to Kerr (and Bobby Myers) first admitting that Draymond has always been a headcase (we just swallow our dignity because we wanted to win championships), then further admitting to increasing play time for their wing defenders who can't shoot (GPII, Dray, DiVincenzo) just to stop our offense, last but certainly not least, actually having to play Steph Curry, the legendary HoF shooter almost 48 mins at 35 years old because every time he sits, the Warriors stop making shots.

It's the little things like Draymond crying about us being physical with him and the Dubs fans crying about us beating them in basketball, with basketball.
 
Easier said than done, however, eyes on Toronto folks. This could be one of those summers that changes futures for a team like Sacramento along with the rest of the West. If that happens all of a sudden players like Huerter and Barnes will look fantastic as 4th and 5th options. Then you've maybe got Sasha coming in as that next up DHO guy. It's all there potentially and the hurt will only be temporary.
Toronto was really good after the all star break and were some made free throws away from probably making the playoffs. They blamed it on the coach, so they ard likely going all in on OG, Siakam and Barnes. I don’t see why they would be interested in trading one of their forwards for another forward.
 
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The last play need patient from Fox. Barnes set a screen so that Steph switch onto him because Green were guarding him. Once it is switched over...what Fox should have done is reset and back out a bit to make room for himself to attack. But rather than wait...he went right at it while Green is closing by....not a good idea. Also, Barnes could have tried to run toward the basketball knowing Green ain't guarding him....Fox then can pass him the ball for a direct drive to draw foul or something. I don't think the Warriors are worrying about anybody else except Fox at that moment...could have took advantage of mental lapses.

The reason for the attack and not settle for 3 is because you're down by 1pt and they're in foul trouble. Also, if you draw foul and made both free throws, they have no time out and had to make a full court pass. It doesn't make sense to settle for 3...yes even if they're wide open. The Kings need to learn to play a bit smarter imo.
 
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Brown really needs to come up with a better play on that final sequence. All you need is a 2. Everyone knew Fox was going to be double teamed and the Warriors are too good for Fox to just split the double and dribble between them. Should have set up an early pass and then a pass back to Fox when the Warriors were a little more discombobulated. Instead the play just fed right into their defense.

Yeah it resulted in an open 3 but Barnes was 1-5 from distance this game and giving your chance at a 2 pointer has higher odds of being good.
 
I agreed that Barnes had made them before, who doesn't? The point is...this team should learn to go with the hot hands because that give you a better chance of winning. And that's Monk. I will take a contested Monk than a wide open Barnes in this game. Hell, I would even sub in Huerter for Barnes. Barnes is trying hero ball and keep missing in this game.
Who doesn't? There's a whole bunch of rotation players in these playoffs, who have never hit a game winner. Let alone a few of them like Barnes has.

Fox has a lot of confidence in Barnes and so does the team. That's why he's an option there.

Monk is also an option there, but if Fox happens to not see him with little time left, then he likely won't get the ball. He might get it next time, if the play allows Fox to see him
 
Brown really needs to come up with a better play on that final sequence. All you need is a 2. Everyone knew Fox was going to be double teamed and the Warriors are too good for Fox to just split the double and dribble between them. Should have set up an early pass and then a pass back to Fox when the Warriors were a little more discombobulated. Instead the play just fed right into their defense.

Yeah it resulted in an open 3 but Barnes was 1-5 from distance this game and giving your chance at a 2 pointer has higher odds of being good.
Yup. That's why the 1-4 flat is not a great play against a good experienced defense with little time to work with. Also why I didn't like passing the ball way into the back court and wasting a few seconds....it limits options
 
Brown really needs to come up with a better play on that final sequence. All you need is a 2. Everyone knew Fox was going to be double teamed and the Warriors are too good for Fox to just split the double and dribble between them. Should have set up an early pass and then a pass back to Fox when the Warriors were a little more discombobulated. Instead the play just fed right into their defense.

Yeah it resulted in an open 3 but Barnes was 1-5 from distance this game and giving your chance at a 2 pointer has higher odds of being good.
I completely agree.

Although it sounds like HB may have made an audible and set a screen, which wasn’t the original play call.

Still, I think our Coach of the Year made a mistake not anticipating what the Warriors would do based upon tendencies.

Furthermore, you could argue that Swipa should have passed off to MM as soon as Steph doubled and attempted to funnel him to Dray. Then all MM had to do was pass it back to De’Aaron as Steph rotated back toward him.

Then De’Aaron has a window to attack the much slower Dray off the dribble.

The KINGS need to be smarter in these last second possessions by having De’Aaron pass off early then get the ball back after the defense resets.
 
Who doesn't? There's a whole bunch of rotation players in these playoffs, who have never hit a game winner. Let alone a few of them like Barnes has.

Fox has a lot of confidence in Barnes and so does the team. That's why he's an option there.

Monk is also an option there, but if Fox happens to not see him with little time left, then he likely won't get the ball. He might get it next time, if the play allows Fox to see him
Fox has a open view and Monk was within his view...he, for whatever reason doesn't look for him but go to the man who help doubled him. I guess it's natural instinct to go to the player that the other team left open to doubled Fox. There is some unfortunate moment in that few seconds...Fox lose control of the ball a bit....and him attacking while Green is near by is not a good idea...that's why he was stopped. That's why they're the Champions...they know what to do to intimidate you when it's crunch time. To get over the hump, you have to play smarter or outsmart them in crunch time.
 
Keegan w 23&7 on 5-7 from 3. Just need Huerter to get it going and our offense will be unstoppable

Almost stole one from the champs at home. Huge rebound from Thursday night to erase all the doubt from that game. Warriors brought their full home court magic and we still almost stole it, now back home to try to get win #3. No one said it'd be easy.
All *this*. We’ve been playing like this, at this pace/intensity, most of the season. GSW thought they could knock us out, 4-0… awww look at those cute Kings after 16+ years of no playoffs. We’re 2-2. It hasn’t been easy for them either.
 
Kings are learning lessons you can only get in crap games like these last two. Kings will win this series.
Completely agree. As much as I would love to see the Kings steamroll through all of their competition, there is much more data to take away from a hard-fought playoff series for an inexperienced team.
 
Completely agree. As much as I would love to see the Kings steamroll through all of their competition, there is much more data to take away from a hard-fought playoff series for an inexperienced team.
I’ve come to the realization that we aren’t winning the championship this year. Im going to eventually be super sad when their run is over, whether it’s this series or the next. Just enjoy this and hope next year we have upgrading enough to be a true contender.
 
Toronto was really good after the all star break and were some made free throws away from probably making the playoffs. They blamed it on the coach, so they ard likely going all in on OG, Siakam and Barnes. I don’t see why they would be interested in trading one of their forwards for another forward.
There was a blurb that they are putting feelers out that only Scottie is untouchable. That's rebuild vibes and it should be. That team is in the range where you don't want to be stuck at. They aren't close to that top 3 contender window and likely won't be with that squad. The Kings are one of the very few teams that could benefit from adding another all star level talent immediately while also putting together one of the future 1st and youth packages everybody wants these days.
 
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Sure, only because the officials swallow their whistles most the time. Be real.

All things being equal and fair, neither has a chance to guard him. Even despite Looney and Dray getting away with murder in the paint, Domas is still making an impact. 16/12/4.5 for the series.

It’s beyond maddening to see Poole, Steph and Klay get to the FT line with HALF the contact Domas endures on a consistent basis with NO call.
I saw Poole walking outside the arena. He fell down 3 times before he made it to his car and whining to non existent official that he missed the call!
 
I’ve come to the realization that we aren’t winning the championship this year. Im going to eventually be super sad when their run is over, whether it’s this series or the next. Just enjoy this and hope next year we have upgrading enough to be a true contender.
They still have a shooters chance which as said before, got the Hawks pretty far a few years ago.
 
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