Rosters set for season opener

[ParniValjak]

http://www.nba.com/news/Rosters_051031.html

SACRAMENTO
Abdur-Rahim, Shareef
Bibby, Mike
Garcia, Francisco
Hart, Jason
Martin, Kevin
Miller, Brad
Price, Ronnie
Skinner, Brian
Stojakovic, Peja
Thomas, Kenny
Wells, Bonzi
Williamson, Corliss
INACTIVE LIST
Sampson, Jamal

Interesting to note that Jamal Sampson is our inactive player to start of the year

I would have thought that we will have Ronnie Price as an inactive player unless of course Bibby and Hart are in some sort of doubt or not 100% fit

 

[Bricklayer]

http://www.nba.com/news/Rosters_051031.html



Interesting to note that Jamal Sampson is our inactive player to start of the year

I would have thought that we will have Ronnie Price as an inactive player unless of course Bibby and Hart are in some sort of doubt or not 100% fit

yeah, makes no sense unless Hart is still hobbled. But then again, Price can shoot right?

 

[mbkings10]

That leaves Skinner as the only legit big man to come off the bench. Don't really think Sampson would of played a lot if he were on the active roster, but it's not really good to have Skinner as the only big man available.

 

[Kings113]

Well:

- it's possible it could be what Rick said where he won't play someone on the bench just about every game (match-ups, minutes).

-Like suggested, to rest Hart some more. At least Price can play solid d also.

I don't think Sampson will be inactive most of the year, just seems unrealistic.

 

[joejoe]

Compare this year's roster with roster from our best team, 2001-02:

[font=&quot]2001-02 / 2005-06[/font]

[font=&quot]1. Mike Bibby / Mike Bibby [/font]

[font=&quot]2. Peja Stojakovic / Peja Stojakovic[/font]

[font=&quot]3. Vlade Divac / Brad Miller [/font]

[font=&quot]4. Doug Christie / Bonzi Wells[/font]

[font=&quot]5. Scot Pollard / Brian Skinner [/font]

[font=&quot]6. Lawrence Funderburke / Corliss Williamson[/font]

[font=&quot]7. Gerald Wallace / Kevin Martin [/font]

[font=&quot]8. Hedo Turkoglu / Kenny Thomas [/font]

[font=&quot]9. Chris Webber / Shareef Abdur-Rahim[/font]

[font=&quot]10. Bobby Jackson / Jason Hart

[/font]I think that 1-4 are better this year than in 01-02.
5-8 are a wash.
Only 9 and 10 are a downgrade compared to 01-02.

The question is, do 1-4 outweigh 9 and 10? Aren't we a better team on paper than in 2001-02?

 

[ParniValjak]

Vlade > Miller

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, #9 and #10 are some rather SERIOUS downgrades, and I would alter your list a bit in that I don't think Peja had gotten much better (indeed was worse last year) and that Vlade's saavy, post game, and control were at least as important as Brad's current contributions. So a clear advance only in Bibby being better, and Bonzi being more talented than Doug.

But that would still kind of miss the point. Its the trap I think our front office has fallen into too. You don't win by being better on paper ala fantasy ball and just accumulating random talent. Its how it all meshes together and complements itself. On paper there was not a year when we weren't more talented than the Lakers. We were vastly better at PF, SF, PG. Deeper as a team. But they had star power, role players, balance.

 

[allrightythen]

I kinda hate to say it, but when healthy that 01-02 roster looks quite a bit better than the current roster.

On a positive note there does seem to be a lot of potential with the current roster, at least offensively, its still hard to see where the D is going to come from.

 

[ParniValjak]

I kinda hate to say it, but when healthy that 01-02 roster looks quite a bit better than the current roster.

On a positive note there does seem to be a lot of potential with the current roster, at least offensively, its still hard to see where the D is going to come from.

I think it looks a LOT better.

The staring 5 was more balanced and certainly stronger in the low post and on top of that, our bench back then was better balanced and more versatile.

I would take the 01-02 roster over this one every time.

 

[mr. moustache]

That is interesting. 2001/2002 Webber is twice the player anyone else on the page is and Vlade played better post defense than Miller. Also, Hart is no Bobby.

Still, I see where you're going. It's close. Switch one of our 2nd tier stars for a top tier star, add a smattering of defense and you've got a championship type team.. Tall order, I know. As much as I hate to say it, swap Miller for Shaq and you have a great team,

Compare this year's roster with roster from our best team, 2001-02:

[font=&quot]2001-02 / 2005-06[/font]

[font=&quot]1. Mike Bibby / Mike Bibby [/font]

[font=&quot]2. Peja Stojakovic / Peja Stojakovic[/font]

[font=&quot]3. Vlade Divac / Brad Miller [/font]

[font=&quot]4. Doug Christie / Bonzi Wells[/font]

[font=&quot]5. Scot Pollard / Brian Skinner [/font]

[font=&quot]6. Lawrence Funderburke / Corliss Williamson[/font]

[font=&quot]7. Gerald Wallace / Kevin Martin [/font]

[font=&quot]8. Hedo Turkoglu / Kenny Thomas [/font]

[font=&quot]9. Chris Webber / Shareef Abdur-Rahim[/font]

[font=&quot]10. Bobby Jackson / Jason Hart

[/font]I think that 1-4 are better this year than in 01-02.
5-8 are a wash.
Only 9 and 10 are a downgrade compared to 01-02.

The question is, do 1-4 outweigh 9 and 10? Aren't we a better team on paper than in 2001-02?

 

[Peja]

Where is Eric Daniels?

 

[6th]

Where is Eric Daniels?

He was one of the early cuts in training camp.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I kinda hate to say it, but when healthy that 01-02 roster looks quite a bit better than the current roster.

On a positive note there does seem to be a lot of potential with the current roster, at least offensively, its still hard to see where the D is going to come from.

That is a BIG quallifier.

 

[CruzDude]

Was Jamal hurt during training camp? We hardly saw him play at all in preseason. Maybe he can see 25-35 min a game in Albuquerque beginning in mid-november and work back into shape. Donnno.

 

[quick dog]

Compare this year's roster with roster from our best team, 2001-02:

[font=&quot]2001-02 / 2005-06[/font]
[font=&quot]1. Mike Bibby / Mike Bibby [/font]
[font=&quot]2. Peja Stojakovic / Peja Stojakovic[/font]
[font=&quot]3. Vlade Divac / Brad Miller [/font]
[font=&quot]4. Doug Christie / Bonzi Wells[/font]
[font=&quot]5. Scot Pollard / Brian Skinner [/font]
[font=&quot]6. Lawrence Funderburke / Corliss Williamson[/font]
[font=&quot]7. Gerald Wallace / Kevin Martin [/font]
[font=&quot]8. Hedo Turkoglu / Kenny Thomas [/font]
[font=&quot]9. Chris Webber / Shareef Abdur-Rahim[/font]
[font=&quot]10. Bobby Jackson / Jason Hart

[/font]I think that 1-4 are better this year than in 01-02.
5-8 are a wash.
Only 9 and 10 are a downgrade compared to 01-02.

The question is, do 1-4 outweigh 9 and 10? Aren't we a better team on paper than in 2001-02?

That is a very interesting comparison. I think, on paper, we should be better. Webber when healthy was great, but he never stayed healthy. Vlade was great at his peak. Who knows?

 

[Kings113]

Was Jamal hurt during training camp? We hardly saw him play at all in preseason. Maybe he can see 25-35 min a game in Albuquerque beginning in mid-november and work back into shape. Donnno.

I think Sampson had a minor problem with his ankle, but that's it. He can't go down to the DL because he has 3 seasons of experience. Must be a rookie, 1 or 2 seasons to qualify being sent down to the DL.

I personally don't think he'd really need it, his 23-game-run with the Bobcats last season in playing in limited/middle minutes was impressive.

 

[allrightythen]

That is a BIG quallifier.

I figured some one would say that as they never were fully healthy, and no Kings team has been since then.

I guess in that sense this years team has a chance of at least doing as well as past years (the good ones).

 

[Bricklayer]

I figured some one would say that as they never were fully healthy, and no Kings team has been since then.

I guess in that sense this years team has a chance of at least doing as well as past years (the good ones).

Perhaps in that sense. Although I'm not even sure of that.

In any case, heartbreak aside I would much rather take the injury prone team with the chance at true greatness if they could just stay healthy than a fully healthy team who even at full strength lacks that chance. The first crew has potential, excitement, "what if" surrounding it. The second, you know what you are going to get, know what your limitations are, and that they are not the sky.

 

[allrightythen]

Perhaps in that sense. Although I'm not even sure of that.

In any case, heartbreak aside I would much rather take the injury prone team with the chance at true greatness if they could just stay healthy than a fully healthy team who even at full strength lacks that chance. The first crew has potential, excitement, "what if" surrounding it. The second, you know what you are going to get, know what your limitations are, and that they are not the sky.

True, but speaking from today they both net you the same thing. I am still holding out hope (at least a little) that this is not the final product for the Kings. With all the personel in the last year of their contracts I think there is more to be done. I think this team lacks one thing, an inside defensive presence. One could argue that permeter D is also missing, but other than Bibby we're not that bad.

Now I'm just waiting to see if the powers that be have the courage to make a move for someone whose biggest strength is not on the offensive side of the ball. I'm amazed at the obsession with big guys that can shoot. I know how cool that is and all, but they don't all need to play for the Kings. What is sometimes as equally frustrating is that the one guy we have who comes closest to filling that role is playing out of position (IMO Skinner should be at PF).

With all that said this current roster might surprise some people when they put it together. This team is athletic and quick for the most part and can put the ball in the hole. If nothing else they are going to be crazy fun to watch.