Rock Band Draft - Round 6 (Wrap Up)

Wrap-up should be titled by the band name in bold. Copy and paste your band from the Draft board. The overall sound and style of the group should be explained in detail including all forays and nuances. At least a brief explanation of each member, and how they fit into the big picture should be next. I imagine with certain members, you may want to specify at what point in their career that you plucked them. Explanations of how the band chemistry works should be presented. A description of stage set and any theatrics plus location of concert should be included. Next should be a rundown of how the set goes, as vague or specific that you would like to be. Last would be an overall argument for why your band is best and what puts it over the top.

Sound good? Did I miss anything?
 
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That's great, unfortunately I'm going to have to wait until after my shift.

So I'll be doing the write-up in the wee hours of Monday morning. Take five everybody.

Oh, one more thing. I had planned to use some Youtube videos as an explaination of the sound I was going for. Is there a limit, I wouldn't want to bog down the board.
 
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Löwenherz said:
That's great, unfortunately I'm going to have to wait until after my shift.

So I'll be doing the write-up in the wee hours of Monday morning. Take five everybody.

Oh, one more thing. I had planned to use some Youtube videos as an explaination of the sound I was going for. Is there a limit, I wouldn't want to bog down the board.
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I would say no more than 5 clips. We can discuss if folks feel they need more.
 
Löwenherz said:
Yes, but they all figured with my "surf rock" band I'd be irrelevent.

However, with the final pick of the first rock band draft, I select as my Vocalist:

Eddie Van ...

;) I kid, I kid

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Bradley Nowell - Lead Vocals/back-up guitar (Associated with Sublime)

Aside from the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean and maybe a handful of others, surf rock bands are traditionally considered to be purely instrumental, and I didn't want that for my band, so I had to get a little creative.

The challenge was truly to find a singer who could express both the "chill-out" and high energy extremes of surf rock instrumentals while being able to harmonize vocally with Frusciante and B. Wilson. No easy task, but if Nowell isn't exactly on the mark, he's as close as I was ever going to find.

Sublime quite possibly is the quintessential SoCal beach rock band, getting their start at Cal State Long Beach, playing house parties and clubs in the area and eventually being voted by LA's KROQ as the second most influential radio band in the station's history (Behind only Nirvana)

Nowell himself was inspired musically by all the genres he grew up with in Long Beach including punk, hip hop, alternative rock, surf culture, reggae and even Jimmy Buffett

Sublime co-headlined the Warped Tour in '95, were kicked off the tour because of drug issues, until Vans was forced to bring them back due to overwhelming demand. So I feel I'm covered in the live performance aspect.

And unlike as many of my fellow drafters were saying in which a vocalist's career was carried by his/her band who marched on without missing a beat (ba dum dum) with a new singer, Nowell was Sublime.

Oh, and you all may have Groupies, but with this pick I get Lou Dog as a mascot and I have an affinity for Dalmations.

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Beautiful, beautiful. Sublime's my favorite band of all time, so I may be biased, but Nowell's one of the most underrated guitarists -- nay, musicians -- of all time. I really wanted to pick him, but went in a different direction. Was hoping he'd slip out of this draft so I could pick him if we do a second game with players from this one excluded. But great pick, and I like the way your group came together.
 
Is anybody close to this draft competant with graphics? I am not, to say the least. It would be pretty cool if someone could do something for each band that included a pic of all 5 members.

Asking too much?
 
Kingzrool said:
Is anybody close to this draft competant with graphics? I am not, to say the least. It would be pretty cool if someone could do something for each band that included a pic of all 5 members.

Asking too much?
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Probably. ;)

That's fun, but I was collecting materials etc. for months ahead of time + had the advanatage of being the commish and knowing I was going to do it all along. Be quite a task if someone wanted to just take it on all of a sudden.

Would need:
-1 Main Directory
-16 sub directories
-at least 16 stage shots form various concerts...although might want to get original and throw in some other things as well -- a satanic group playing in hell for instance
-usable pics of each and every band member of each band -- and when I say usable I mean you would need better/more consistent angles than some of our official pics here, so you'd have to go find them. Better if they were all in color too. to make it sing you would have to be looking for certian angles/poses to make them look like they were interacting.
- then you have to cut out all those pics -- 5 band members x 16 groups = 90 cutouts
- then to make it fun adding in a few other things. Maybe Liv Tyler as a groupie for my group, etc.
 
Yeah I'm trying to make one for my own and its seeming like its going to take long enough.

I can't imagine doing 15 others.
 
Kingzrool said:
Is anybody close to this draft competant with graphics? I am not, to say the least. It would be pretty cool if someone could do something for each band that included a pic of all 5 members.

Asking too much?
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I thought being resourceful in presentation was sorta kinda part of the scoring. But if we're to have a template that is all good with me too I guess.

I actually have a video (slideshow I should say) - but flickr wants me to pay a "pro membership" fee, and photobucket would not host it because some part of it must have a copyright flag... so I found a rinkydink hosting site for it. Doesn't show its best.

Anybody wanna help me out and host my litte 90 second video? When my turn comes up I mean...
 
By the way this is my first one so I don't know all the customs and stuff...
is it necessary to campaign for your band each round - or when you post your wrap-up are you done?
 
I think that's up to you, some people seem to have been agressive in hyping their picks, others not so much. I'm sure it can backfire if you go way over the top.
 
Well, I do not want this to come to a "who has the best computer skillz and can make the coolest presentation" type thing.
 
I'm pretty handy with Photoshop and can probably do what you want..but on the otherhand thats gonna take a long time and im not so sure i want to....
 
The Waveriders

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Dick Dale - Lead Guitar
Brian Wilson - Bass / Back-up Vocals
John Frusciante - 2nd Lead and Rhythm Guitar/ Back-up Vocals
Ron Wilson - Drums / Back-up Vocals
Bradley Nowell - Lead Vocals / Back-up Guitar
Lou Dog - Mascot / Dalmatian


The Waveriders, their name a tribute to legendary surf bands The Ventures, The Chantays, The Challengers and others, can be considered founders of their own genre: Quintessential California Rock. Their music mixes elements of surf, alternative, punk and psychedelic rock along with aspects of hip hop and reggae to form a unique "Pacific Coast sound" tempered in the melting pot of the Golden State..The Waveriders are lead by the iconic voice of Sublime frontman Bradley Nowell, heightened by the vocal harmonics designed by Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson as heard in the Pet Sounds and Smile (as it was intended) albums, supplemented with the instrumental melodic attention to detail of RHCP's John Frusciante as heard in the Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Californication albums while supporting bandmates Dick Dale and Ron Wilson provide the band's surf rock instrumental and beach ballad backbone..
 
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Dick Dale - Lead Guitar

Dale was immediately the most recognizable name and sound available for the direction I planned to take. While his lack of adaptability makes him the least vital bandmember, (although he is able to play with EITHER his patented high energy style as heard in "Nitro" OR a more mellow, chill-out style as heard in "Let's Go Trippin") he provides the foundation on which the Waveriders were built..

And already, I'm throwing a monkey wretch into what I'd imagine everyone assumes about that foundation. As explaination, I'll say the genesis of my affection for the surf rock instrumental style did not begin during my time on the beaches of Sunny San Diego. It was born during my years as a Rebellious Golden Gator attending Berkeley's little brother squarely nestled in the San Francisco Bay Area..

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While Jello's politcally charged, sarcastic lyrics and bizzare antics both on and off stage are what most people correlate with the Kennedys, I believe they would be just another underground punk band if not for the immediately recongizable and dramatic surf rock influenced stylings of East Bay Ray and Klaus Floride. And I do appreciate Jello's importance to the band (considering without him they're little more than a dock and cover self parody), but I had wondered what the dramtic, punkish surf tones would sound like with a differently styled and more melodic vocalist (I.E. Bradley Nowell)

Dale's role in this should be rather clear as I imagine he and Frusciante would take over the string elements with one of the two toning down and playing the bass portion (because it's obviously not Brian Wilson's style)

But Dale is more than simply a complementary role player. On any occasion, as an intro, during set breaks, sound checks, even solos, he can break into the sound and style he's famous for and take over the spotlight.

Dick Dale is the Peja of The Waveriders. He's a master at only one thing, but at that one thing he's legendarily good. And with the right teammates, his weaknesses can be erased.

Brian Wilson - Bass / Back-up Vocals (Piano / Keyboard)

There's a reason The Beach Boys were considered the primary American band to challenge the Beatles and the 60s British Invasion. Why Pet Sounds is widely considered by critics as one of, if not the, greatest albums ever created. And why Smile is the most famous and sought after album to never be released. Brian Wilson is that reason.

The story goes Wilson and his co-writer on the Smile album, Van Dyke Parks, were driving to a studio to work on Smile when they heard on the radio for the first time Strawberry Fields Forever. Wilson pulled over the car, sat starring ahead distraught and simply said "They just did what I was doing with Smile."

And this is as close as we can get to what Wilson intended with his "teenage symphony to God"

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Wilson represents the polar opposite style of Dale, both of which though The Waveriders have been constructed to pull off. And unlike Dale he is highly adaptable, having been the mind behind both critically acclaimed and chart topping hits.

But in order for that to work, Wilson has to be the utility guy and the glue that holds it all together. He was able to build the Beach Boys by harmonizing the vocals of his friends and family, I trust him to do the same with his own iconic choir boy voice with those of Frusciante and Nowell. He can stand in and play Bass on ballads, but I'd also expect him to drop back to piano and keyboard when the situation calls for it.

He'll be the hardest working man in The Waveriders, which ultimately appeals to his personaility. But this time, there'll be no Mike Love.

Brian Wilson is the Vlade of The Waveriders. He does anything and everything necessary, get's his teammates involved and makes them better, and ultimately, the whole thing runs through him..


John Frusciante - 2nd Lead and Rhthm Guitar / Back-up Vocals

With two musical extermes presented by Dale and Wilson, I needed a guitarist who could bridge that gap while also providing vocals to support Wilson's vision.

Frusciante's body of work speaks for itself. He is the reason The Waveriders can have Dale and Wilson in the same band.

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He is very likely one of the few guitarists who could thrash along side Dale and immediately switch gears to harmonize with Wilson.

He's also known for his tireless perfectionism when constructing melodies and is vital to making the surf rock instrumentals actually fit in with the competing themes. And at any point, he too could grab the spotlight and break into a solo of "How Deep is Your Love" or "Tiny Dancer"

John Frusciante is the Bibby of the Waveriders. He can either be a in a supporting role or the headliner and at anytime can take things over and carry the team.

Ron Wilson - Drums / Back-up Vocals

Ron Wilson was one of two drummers I was considering; the other being Carlton "Field Marshall" Barrett of the Wailers, who obviously would have complemented my frontman. But that would have taken me further down the Reggae track than I wanted to go, and I believe Wilson provides just the style of drums necessary. He's mostly forgotten because the Surfaris are considered a one hit wonder with Wipe Out (and even that isn't always attributed to them)

But as my initial post on him explained, he was compared favorablly to Keith Moon with his splashing style and in would seem to be the world's most famous "session man" with the success of Wipe Out.

With the stars and potential egos on the band, I needed a "session man" on drums who could match up with Dale, or slow it down for B. Wilson (as the sufarias made passable attemtps to mimic the beach boys with R. Wilson taking the drums and lead vocals). I needed a guy providing the beat without trying to take it over.but with enough talent to not be ignored.

Ron Wilson is the Doug Christie of the Waveriders. Possibly overlooked by casual fans, but does all the little things that keep the team going.

Bradley Nowell - Lead Vocals / Back-up Guitar

And of course the late Bradley Nowell; the cornerstone, the centerpiece, the frontman, the face of the franchise, the keynote speaker whatever you want to call him, he's it. He's what this whole experiement was built on and utterly irreplaceable.

(So why did I wait to pick him last? because one of the benefits of being at the end of the draft is seeing what directions your competetors are going. Since I didn't really see him being threatened, I chose to go for the exclaimation point finish. Told ya, flair for dramatics)

The styles of the other four members feed off of and take direction from his lead.

He can go either upbeat, MTV hit maker:

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Or chill-out, mellow live performance:

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A B. Wilson/Nowell collaberative effort would be the stuff of legends. A Dead Kennedys style-backing band with Nowell at lead vocals would be revolutionary. And a Frusciante/Nowell melodic working would be unmatched. His voice can utterlly carry the band, or sink into harmony with the other members. And while he has two accomplished guitarists flanking him so he can focus on vocals, at anytime he can demonstate his own guitar skills when the situation calls.
Nowell is the Chris Webber of The Waveriders. No other explaination should be necessary.
 
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Löwenherz said:
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Dick Dale - Lead Guitar
Brian Wilson - Bass / Back-up Vocals
John Frusciante - 2nd Lead and Rhythm Guitar/ Back-up Vocals
Ron Wilson - Drums / Back-up Vocals
Bradley Nowell - Lead Vocals / Back-up Guitar
Lou Dog - Mascot / Dalmation


The Waveriders, their name a tribute to legendary surf bands The Ventures, The Chantays, The Challengers and others, can be considered founders of their own genre: Quintessential California Rock. Their music mixes elements of surf, alternative, punk and psychedelic rock along with aspects of hip hop and reggae to form a unique "Pacific Coast sound" tempered in the melting pot of the Golden State..The Waveriders are lead by the iconic voice of Sublime frontman Bradley Nowell, heightened by the vocal harmonics designed by Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson as heard in the Pet Sounds and Smile (as it was intended) albums, supplemented with the instrumental melodic attention to detail of RHCP's John Frusciante as heard in the Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Californication albums while supporting bandmates Dick Dale and Ron Wilson provide the band's surf rock instrumental and beach ballad backbone..
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Nice lineup. I see the Nowell/Frusciante/ Wilson/ Wilson connection... sort of a cool and smooth, dreamy alternative/surf experience. I still do not see Dale fitting in, but this is your surf rock dream, dude!
 
wha wha wha... am I misinterpreting/imagining or did you just assert DK would have been better with Brad Nowell???
 
Wow...some of you guys spent alot of time on your band wrap-ups....i have homework and stuff to do so i really can't do that right now..i'll try to make time in the next couple days. Is that gonna be a problem?
 
NoBonus said:
There, I submitted mine.
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I didn't even realize your spot in the draft, but we are supposed to be going in reverse order here ya know, because someone else might have wanted that name.

I'm slightly worried about my name but hoping that going towards the end gives me enough time to work on my presentation.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
I didn't even realize your spot in the draft, but we are supposed to be going in reverse order here ya know, because someone else might have wanted that name.

I'm slightly worried about my name but hoping that going towards the end gives me enough time to work on my presentation.
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Yes, you are correct. I apologize for not catching it. The wrap-ups need to be put up in reverse order of the draft. So Alek said to pass him up and LPKF is up (pm sent). I do not think that NoBonus's post will really change anything, so let's just leave that. If anybody that is before NoBonus realistically was going to use that name, we can cross that line then.

We will use the normal 24 hour time out period, but everyone will be able to submit their wrap up regardless. Please try to have it in by SacKings7's offering.
 
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I figured we were going in reverse order. Works out pretty good for me because I'm not too familiar with cropping pics, etc. I have my name narrowed down to 2 though
 
pdxKingsFan said:
wha wha wha... am I misinterpreting/imagining or did you just assert DK would have been better with Brad Nowell???
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:eek: Gasp!!! Banish such blasphemy! DK wouldn't exist without Jello and as I mentioned, his bandmates became little more than a self-parody without him as a frontman.

Jello's antics and voice are punk personified and the perfect cornerstone of DK, but it's not exactly what I would call harmonic. The point of using DK as an example (other than pimping out one of my favorite bands) was to illustrate elements of surf rock used in a rock band context some may not have considered and highlight the ultra-adaptability of the genre.

And since my band is anything but a DK Cover band, comparing Nowell to Jello is irrelevent; Apples to Agent Oranges.
 
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The Roaring 90s

Dave Grohl - Drums / Back-up Vocals
Tom Morello - Lead Guitar
Mike Dirnt - Bass
Kurt Cobain - Lead Vocals / Rhythm Guitar
Dave Navarro - 2nd Lead and Rhythm Guitar / Back-up Vocals

In 1993, the members of five of the biggest bands at the time grew disillusioned and uncomfortable with the fame and celebrity that followed their mainstream tours. Finding kindred spirits amongst themselves, the five formed The Roaring 90s, a supergroup of sorts that scorned the supergroup image. Instead, the five would secretly tour smaller clubs and medium sized venues, surprising their audiences with a stellar set of political and polemical, yet emotionally-charged songs, driven by the vocal talents of frontman Kurt Cobain. Next to Cobain wails the guitar of Tom Morello, breaking out of a deep, rumbling rhythm to start his supersonic solos. (Morello's work along Cobain would provide the foundation for his work with another 90s grunge frontman, Soundgarden's Chris Cornell, for the band Audioslave). Also on guitar is Dave Navarro, whose chops from the alternatively-styled Jane's Addiction and the more funk-metal Red Hot Chili Peppers allows him to bridge the musical styles of Morello and Cobain perfectly. On drums is Dave Grohl, also of Nirvana fame, but in these shows experimenting with the metal-toned mainstream rock that would later mark his band, the Foo Fighters. Finally, Mike Dirnt rounds out the group on bass, taking a break from Green Day's punk rock to experiment with a more harder style with Morello and Navarro on elements of funk, basslines that would later come to light in songs like "Longview."
 
BREAKING NEWS: Tape uncovered of 90s supergroup

By LPKingsFan, Rolling Stone staff writer - SAN FRANCISCO - A rare videotape uncovered by Rolling Stone early this week offers the first evidence of a long-rumored 90s supergroup of alternative rock stars performing a show at The Fillmore. The group, which toured under the name "The Roaring 90s," contained members of such acts as Nirvana, Rage Against The Machine, Green Day, and The Red Hot Chili Peppers, raw footage from the concert reveals.

According to witnesses interviewed by Rolling Stone, the band played an unadvertised show sometime in the late months of 1993. "I didn't know who in the heck these guys were when they came out on stage," said a former Fillmore sound engineer who identified himself only as "Sound Man." "I thought their singer looked a little familiar, but when he got on the mic I went, 'Holy cow! That's Kurt Cobain!'"

Among the dozens of witnesses discovered by Rolling Stone, the verdict was unanimous -- the concert was the stuff of legend. In fact, rumors such a show have popped up occasionally throughout the last decade and a half, yet most fans and industry insiders dismissed the talk as too good to be true. As it turns out, witnesses say, the show was as good as tales said.

"It was simply unbelievable," one said. "My ears still ring to this day."

"But in a good way," he added.

According to reports, the band played a two-and-a-half hour set in front of a sparse backdrop, with minimal stage effects. The music fit the design, witnesses said, an iconic blend of the early 90s alternative era -- deep but disinterested, with heavy yet rhythmic basslines. Witnesses said, lyrically and musically, it was Cobain at his best.

"I bet he had been talking politics and the state of the industry with [guitarist Tom] Morello while working on those songs," one surmised. "It was raw emotion. And the band was raw power."

When contacted by Rolling Stone, the surviving members of the alleged supergroup, including Morello, Dave Grohl, Dave Navarro, and Mike Dirnt, wouldn't confirm or deny evidence of the concert.

"Man, that was an Everlong time ago," Grohl said with a wink and a smile. "I'm not really sure what you're talking about."
 
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