Rick's good at failing...

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SacKings4Life21

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This season, when the kings were down and out, then fought thier way back to the playoffs... I forgot why I hate Rick Adddddy. IT was so picture perfect tonight to see what poor crunch time decision making he does...

1. Why is mike bibby in the game during the final seconds... you know that a moderatly talented freshman in higschool could score 40 on him... so let hart play.

2. Wtf is bibby, if going to be in the game, doing guarding brent barry!!! (well i know he didnt guard him at all... thats why we lost...)

3. but the biggest blown decision of the night is the fact that he didnt call for fouling the spurs with 20 seconds left...
- they are not a good free throw shooting team
- and we were up 3!!!!!!!2 points and the ball back... is better than going to OT...

Rick blew this one... with mike bibby's idiotic plays a close second
 
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I totally agree. Rick seems to confuse me and I'm starting to question his level of basketball IQ. It really worries me because he's done this not once but in several occasions. He clearly knows that Bibby cannot play defense yet puts him in the game for defensive purposes...

Not to mention we gave this guy so many chances. I think its time for him and the Kings to move on. I wouldn't be suprised if he is gone by the end of this year. The Maloofs said they will judge Rick Adelman's coaching status on how he leads the team in the playoffs. So far he has done nothing but failed.
 
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Stojakovic

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Rome said:
I totally agree. Rick seems to confuse me and I'm starting to question his level of basketball IQ. It really worries me because he's done this not once but in several occasions. He clearly knows that Bibby cannot play defense yet puts him in the game for defensive purposes...
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LOL

Man, this board is just swarmed with genius'. I find it admirable that you are qualified enough to question Rick Adelman's basketball IQ.
 
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Stojakovic said:
LOL

Man, this board is just swarmed with genius'. I find it admirable that you are qualified enough to question Rick Adelman's basketball IQ.
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wow you find that funny. Obviously you didn't watch the game. I'm also wondering if you even seen Bibby's defense this whole season. IF a coach was smart he would put his best defenders in that kind of a situation.

After looking at your sig i guess you've been tuned out for a couple of years...
 
SacKings4Life21

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Well I know for sure that I had more basketball IQ than Rick on that last play in particular... horrible horrible... he makes moves like that so many times... i remember a few time vs. the lakers over the years that foulign was the answer but we never did... and lost
 
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Well no duh Adleman is a bad playoff coach, but you guys were championing him just last week and saying it would be a travesty if the Kings let him go. I don't understand the selective memory of fellow Kings' fans.
 
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swisshh said:
Well no duh Adleman is a bad playoff coach, but you guys were championing him just last week and saying it would be a travesty if the Kings let him go. I don't understand the selective memory of fellow Kings' fans.
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I hope your not refering to me. Because ive never been in the Adelman bandwagon and i plan to keep it that way. If you don't beleive me just look at my past posts.
 
Bricklayer

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Its simplistic to call for the foul. In particualr when its Manu wiht the ball in his hands (normally a good free thrwo shooter) passing to Barry (a great free throw shooter) wiht only Parker, ABOVE THE THREE POINT LINE (i.e. 3 shots) briefly touching it otherwise.

All an intentional foul does is rest the game one more time. Maybe they miss one. But maybe they don't. And if they don't then YOU have to go down and hot both yours, or abruptly you can lose it in regulation.

The defensive assignments here were not dificult to understand, jsutr apparentyl difficult for our guys to execute. Hug the three point line. Only nobody did.

As an aside, after rewatchign that final play, having Mike in the game becomes more understandable. Ron was gone. Bonzi was gone. Hart, Cisco and Kevin were all already on the court. That means that other than putting in KT (a PF) to guard the perimeter, the only other available option would have been Ronnie Price -- and I doubt many coaches would go break out their rookie 12th man who hasn't played the bwhoe game to suddenly come in ice cold on the key defensive stop of a playoff game.
 
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SacTownKid

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Rick also always has trust in his players. Almost to a fault sometimes. I am just surprised he glued Brad's backside to the bench after his complete suckfest.
 
SacKings4Life21

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Well I would much rather have KT on Barry then Mike.... he is long and mike is short and slow. I take my chances with the foul rather than the three. We had good free throw shooters in the game... got to go for the foul in my opinion
 
nbrans

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Rick would have looked a whoooooolllllle lot smarter if Barry would have missed.

You armchair coaches are getting ridiculous. The Kings had a shot to win without Artest, on the Spurs' home floor. What more do you want? The effort was there. The coaching was there. The Spurs were the better team and Barry got a lucky bounce. The Kings still had a shot to win it. But oh yeah, it was alllll Adelman's fault. Keep dreaming, people.
 
Jerryaki

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i didn't think of it at the time, but RA should've had them foul. but brick brought up a good point in his grades, why was bibby on the court if you're looking for a defensive stop?

i don't care to assess the blame to anyone; they played with heart, they responded to the blowout, and in that respect i am so very proud of the team.

but i'm still a little catatonic from the loss last nite.
 
Yoda

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Funny, this thread pops up. I thought that he should have been re-signed right after the game. That was one of the better turnarounds I have ever seen. Take away a miracle bounce and he wins on the road, against the defending champion, without his best player, after losing by 30+.
 
bozzwell

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Yoda said:
Funny, this thread pops up. I thought that he should have been re-signed right after the game. That was one of the better turnarounds I have ever seen. Take away a miracle bounce and he wins on the road, against the defending champion, without his best player, after losing by 30+.
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I second that. RA was out of this world based on that performance. He can't recover on defense for our guys, everything else was almost perfect.
 
sloter

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I don't know about that. Towards the end of the game, the Spurs got every shot that they wanted. I know that not all our players are Artests, but there has to be a way to spoil the fun of uncontested shots and layups for the other team, especially in crunch time.
 
Ryle

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SacKings4Life21 said:
Well I would much rather have KT on Barry then Mike.... he is long and mike is short and slow. I take my chances with the foul rather than the three. We had good free throw shooters in the game... got to go for the foul in my opinion
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I'm not big on fouling as a form of defense. I have re-watched the last play about 20 times and I just can't figure out what the hell Bibby was doing :eek:

It looks like he was moving down into the lane instead of staying with his man and that made setting the pick so much easier. I frankly would have rather seen Ronnie Price on the floor because he knows how to at least play defense.
 
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Ryle said:
I'm not big on fouling as a form of defense. I have re-watched the last play about 20 times and I just can't figure out what the hell Bibby was doing :eek:

It looks like he was moving down into the lane instead of staying with his man and that made setting the pick so much easier. I frankly would have rather seen Ronnie Price on the floor because he knows how to at least play defense.
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That's what I don't get. I think he got caught watching the game.
I have no idea why he wasn't in Barry's face, chest to chest.
You know they were all told to stay with the 3 point shooters. That's
why Rick went small on that play (I believe) to stay with thier shooters. I can't put the blame on the coach if a player is not capable/focused enough to run along the 3 point line to stay with a shooter.
 
PFFFT!!

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Brent "THE HAND OF GOD" Barry....thats all I have to say. This team officially has a curse. :|. Perhaps it was because Finley and Horry played the last seconds of the game.
 
Oskor

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PFFFT!! said:
Brent "THE HAND OF GOD" Barry....thats all I have to say. This team officially has a curse. :|. Perhaps it was because Finley and Horry played the last seconds of the game.
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I much rather have Barry hit the 3 on us that one of those 2 guys!

I agree that Adelman did a great job. I can't wait for game 3 in Sac... the freaken roof is coming off da house!
 
DocHolliday

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I'm really pleasnalty surprised to see some objective non-homer comments today.

I was pacing my living room wondering what the hell Adelman was doing putting bibby back in with seconds left. What is Bibby going to do??? He wasn't effective offensively, though he passed the ball around effectively. Well this wasn't about offense, or running it. This was about Defense. Why wasn't Hart in there, I just didn't get it??

Why did ANYONE stand in the key?? Did they not understand. Let them walk through the lane for a bucket if they want. 2 doesn't tie, 3 does. You get the ball back and they are going to foul you immediately. So, get the ball to a good free throw shotter and you win this game.

No, 2 guys standing in the key, and one led in defending the player driving and oops Bibby tripped, out to Brent for a wide open 3. What in the hell was Adelman AND the team thinking. Just horrible.

Also Bibby made some REALLY bad passes down the stretch in the 4th. He also made at least one if not more REALLY bad turnovers in the 4th.
 
DocHolliday

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WTH are you guys talking about? Heart WAS on the floor for the last play. Go to the play-by-play on NBA.com.... when Martin was shooting his freethrows Heart replaced Thomas with 17 seconds left in the game. Get your facts straight!

http://www.nba.com/games/20060425/SACSAS/playbyplay.html
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This was before bonzi fouled out. The line up should have been

Hart
Martin
Bonzi
Reef
Thomas
or Francisco for Reef since Reef isn't super quick. Francisco would probably be able to get out on someone faster.

End of discussion. Bibby should have not been on the floor in any way shape or form. So, if Hart was on for that last play of regulation, my bad I didn't see him. I would have figured he would have been playing point. But regardless, whoever was out of the line up that I just posted should have been in, and NOT Bibby.

And, no one should have been in the key. It should have been ALL about defending the 3 point line. a 2 ball does nothing for them at that point. At the VERY worst you get the ball back, and they fould you immediately and put you at the line.
 
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Oskor

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Maybe you are right that he should not have been on the floor.... but who could have replaced him? Also, weren't the Kings out of time outs? If the Spurs made a quick 2 we needed some good free-throw shooters on the floor to keep our lead.

But that's water under the bridge now. Let's take this series home and show the Spurs that Arco has been holding back all these years!
 
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