Reynold's comments about Bibby

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In Sam Amick's article today, Jerry Reynolds is quoted as saying, "I'm convinced Mike Bibby is going to be a several-time All-Star before his career's over. I think last year was just a real detour." http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/306699.html

I also think Bibby will play much better than last year (at least his fg% will be higher). But I do not think that he will ever make an all-star game. I just think that there are too many talented guards in the west and young guys like Chris Paul and Deron Williams are already better than Bibby.

I just wanted to pay my respects to Jerry for being able to be so ridiculously hopeful. I think that all of us should start drinking from Jerry's cup and start touting the squad as a cahmpionship contender. It would probably be more fun that reality. So hear it goes.

Brad Miller is going to return to a 15-10-5 beast and Ron and Justin Williams are going to shut down opposing forwards. Mike Bibby will lead the NBA in steals and make the All-star team based on his improved perimeter D. Spurs, Mavs, Suns and Rockets watch out. We are going all the way.
 
I also have to disagree and say that Mike won't be a several time all-star. I actually doubt he'll get there even once. If he was gonna make the team, he would've when we were contending. ( and I thought he deserved to)
 
midtowner said:
In Sam Amick's article today, Jerry Reynolds is quoted as saying, "I'm convinced Mike Bibby is going to be a several-time All-Star before his career's over.
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I sometimes wonder if Jerry actually believes a 1/4 of the stuff he shovels.

Let's see, Nash, Iverson, Parker, Baron, Paul, Deron...but yeah, Mike is going to the All Star game (yet again, as Jerry has predicted it happening every single year).

Then again, on the "let's be positive" theme, maybe this means Jerry knows Mike is being traded out East. :p (not that that would help matters that much -- Arenas, Billups and Kidd would still all be in front of him).
 
Jerry Reynolds has not chnaged his story. He stated more than once last season that Bibby's game was off due to persistent injuries. Jerry claimed several months ago that Bibby would come back strong next (2007-2008) year. He is usually pretty insightful, and is on the inside. I think Jerry may be right. I suspect fans have been too tough on Bibby and too easy on other players.

I hold out no hope for Brad Miller. IMO, there is something wrong with his head.
 
If Bibby gets traded to the Cavs, I think he would have a chance at making the All-Star team. With LeBron drawing double and triple teams nightly, Bibby would kill.
 
Interesting how the ranters and ravers on this site and the tradtional optimistic fans can say what Jerry says and its taken as part of the KingsFans rhetoric yet when Jerry spouts his typical optimistic view he gets jumped all over. He never said Bibbs was going to be a multi-year All Star team member. and we all know Bibbs is top 10 up to the start of 2006.

I think Jerry is a giant sprout of fresh air. So what we all know he is an uncurable optimist. We need some of those in the mix with the overwhelming negative talkers out there.

Keep it up Jerry!! We love ya! :)
 
CruzDude said:
He never said Bibbs was going to be a multi-year All Star team member. and we all know Bibbs is top 10 up to the start of 2006.
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Well, according to the quote in the bee, he did say a "several-time all-star" before his career is done. But regardless, I do generally agree with your assessment of Reynolds. The negativity of this site sometimes does wear me down. However, blind optimism isn't always much better....it just makes life more enjoyable.
 
TaxMan said:
Well, according to the quote in the bee, he did say a "several-time all-star" before his career is done. But regardless, I do generally agree with your assessment of Reynolds. The negativity of this site sometimes does wear me down. However, blind optimism isn't always much better....it just makes life more enjoyable.
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it doesn't even really do that, unless delusion is considered an enjoyable state of mind.

people get the wrong idea about "negativity." it is a powerful tool when it's warranted. in a perfect sports world, the kings, as an organization, would always have millions of happy-go-lucky-and-blind-to-reality fans, and there'd be practically no fear of financial reprisal. the fans would throw their money at jerseys, tickets, and overpriced beer at the home games with no shift in regularity. the organization could take all the time it wanted to "rebuild" or "refurbish" it's team, because they'd get an arena deal regardless, they'd get their sacramento-area cable deals, and they might even see a few more nationally-televised games on the schedule.

but it ain't a perfect sports world. all of these things actually matter, and all of them are impacted by the poor product on the court. and when the fans are collectively pissed off, the urgency to correct the problems on and off the court is much greater, because jobs are at stake. maybe geoff petrie thinks he's convinced the maloofs of his abilities as a gm, and believes he has the ultimate job security. or maybe he's just getting too old to care if he has job security in sacramento. when the organization is buying up more and more tickets every season to keep the illusion of sell-out streaks going, its clear that the product isn't considered worth the cost to the fans anymore. professional sports is just as much a world of entertainment as it is anything else. the maloofs may not have the highest basketball iq's out there, but they do know entertainment. and time, as we all know, is money. geoff needs to get moving fast before the maloofs start moving for him.

now, a guy like jerry reynolds owns the position of forever-positive fan. as a company man and public personality, he's meant to maintain the grass is greener on the other side mentality. even the most casual kings fan would probably find his comments about mike bibby to be rather inflated. bibby will probably not be an all star ever in his career. there's a greater opportunity if he were to move to the eastern conference, but age will eventually catch up with him if he doesn't return to top form soon. it's not reynolds' job to make that assessment, though. it's his job to exude an aura of eternal positivity in spite of the obvious problems plaguing the franchise.
 
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Padrino said:
it doesn't even really do that, unless delusion is considered an enjoyable state of mind.
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Delusion can be quite enjoyable. Have you read, "Praise of Folly," by Erasmus? I think that's why Reynolds is such a happy guy...:)

I like the poetry you quote, by the way.
 
Kingster said:
Delusion can be quite enjoyable. Have you read, "Praise of Folly," by Erasmus? I think that's why Reynolds is such a happy guy...:)

I like the poetry you quote, by the way.
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i actually need to change my signature. it's been my poem of the week for like a month now. danny sherrard's great, though. he's one-fourth of the seattle poetry slam team. the other three are tara hardy, ryler dustin, and buddy wakefield. :eek: that might not mean much to anybody else, but that's one amazing team of poets right there. as a matter of fact, i think i'll change my signature to something by ryler dustin right now...

and no, i haven't read that book, but i'll look into it. maybe it'll make it easier to be a kings fan...

;)

but back to the topic at hand...i never was able to do the ultra-positive, always-looking-for-the-bright-side, grass-is-greener, glass-is-half-full kinda rooting for my team. i'm a highly critical fan. i don't demand or expect perfection, but i do expect more than we've received as kings fans the past four years.
 
Jer said:
Jerry needs to stop hanging out with Artest and the Iraqi Information Minister
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"I'm convinced Mike Bibby is going to be a several-time All-Star before his career's over."
 
Merdiesel said:
If Bibby gets traded to the Cavs, I think he would have a chance at making the All-Star team. With LeBron drawing double and triple teams nightly, Bibby would kill.
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And still be in the same conference with Jason Kidd, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups, Vince Carter, Dwayne Wade, Ray Allen, Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson, Michael Redd...etc. etc. I think he might do very well on Cleveland too, but he's not a Top 10 guard in EITHER conference, hence minus historic injuries to all of his compeititon, not an All-Star. He's one of those also ran guys who could have made it once or twice just for being on an elite team, but that time is past.
 
Mascot? Good idea, but I think Baghdad Bob may be dead.

I'll bet he could be elected President of the USA in 2008.
 
quick dog said:
Jerry Reynolds has not chnaged his story. He stated more than once last season that Bibby's game was off due to persistent injuries. Jerry claimed several months ago that Bibby would come back strong next (2007-2008) year. He is usually pretty insightful, and is on the inside. I think Jerry may be right. I suspect fans have been too tough on Bibby and too easy on other players.

I hold out no hope for Brad Miller. IMO, there is something wrong with his head.
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I'm with you on this. I am not sure that he will make the all-star team, which has become a popularity contest anyway, but I do think that he will rate among the league's best again. Count me in with the optimists. As for Brad, I am not delusional, so I do not foresee a marked improvement.
 
Padrino said:
it doesn't even really do that, unless delusion is considered an enjoyable state of mind.
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Well, I don't necessarily put myself in the blind optimist camp, but I guess my point was more of perspective. I guess in general we are all fanatical about our team, or we wouldn't be on a message board. It's just sometimes there is so much hate spewed on these boards that it makes me wonder about the bigger perspective. It is just a game. I consider hate a more intense version of negativity. I just can't imagine being so pissed off at the state of a basketball team.

But, you're also right. Blind optimism can also be a sign of a mind numbing zombie state.
 
TaxMan said:
Well, I don't necessarily put myself in the blind optimist camp, but I guess my point was more of perspective. I guess in general we are all fanatical about our team, or we wouldn't be on a message board. It's just sometimes there is so much hate spewed on these boards that it makes me wonder about the bigger perspective. It is just a game. I consider hate a more intense version of negativity. I just can't imagine being so pissed off at the state of a basketball team.

But, you're also right. Blind optimism can also be a sign of a mind numbing zombie state.
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It's all a matter of perspective and how you choose to view things. Check out my signature.

:)
 
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