Rename the team

[LWP777]

I have an idea for the Maloofs if the team ends up staying in Sacramento for next year and for the foreseeable future. This is assuming that the rest of this year continues to be somewhat of a disaster and that the fans are at least as apathetic as most are right now. The Maloofs need to rename the team. Probably to the "Royals" but possibly something that might be Sacramento related (like what the River Cats did). Let's face it, the name "Kings" is not the greatest to begin with and if you throw out the Webber-Vlade era, it's just tied with a lot of heartache and pain.

If they did this, got a real coach, and apologized to the city and started to rebrand the team with the new name, logo, colors, etc. I actually think it could reenergize the city's love for the team. If they chose a Sacramento related name it could really help clean up their image around the city and with the fans.

I mean, really, what do they possibly have to lose at this point?

 

[Rookie]

No way. I can't even imagine changing of the team's name.

Just like some people are attach to players, I'm attach to the "Kings". Too many history to give up on.

 

[LWP777]

No way. I can't even imagine changing of the team's name.

Just like some people are attach to players, I'm attach to the "Kings". Too many history to give up on.

Like I said in my OP, there is only heartache and pain if you take out the Webber-Vlade era. Now I admit, that era was an incredible one (even though that had extreme heartache and pain!).

The Oscar Robertson era was the Royals, not the Kings. What other history is there?

 

[Warhawk]

Um, news flash - MSE is NOT going to be spending $$$ on a new coach, GM, or a team rebranding. Why the heck would they?

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. They can't afford to pull down the old PBP signage off the building and had tarps that covered old advertising falling on the floor during a game. They are looking for a new (FREE!) arena in VB. They tried to move to Anaheim. They turned down an arena deal here in Sacramento that the NBA (Stern himself!) had negotiated. What part of the not-so-subliminal message are you missing?

So at what point do you think they really are all that interested in re-energizing the city at this point? As long as MSE are the owners, this team is one foot out the door and Sacramento means nothing to them (MSE), despite all the sellouts, etc. It will take new ownership to have any sort of stability and get the building full again on a nightly basis. MSE does not have the funding, capacity, or desire to take this team to the next level. They are looking at $$$ only, given their current financial status. And they see a new city and "free" arena as their golden ticket. Their demands are completely unreasonable and absurd.

 

[LWP777]

Warhawk, I agree with just about everything you said. My rebranding idea only applies if they decide to keep the team in Sac or they are unable to move the team.

 

[Warhawk]

Warhawk, I agree with just about everything you said. My rebranding idea only applies if they decide to keep the team in Sac or they are unable to move the team.

If either of those happen the only thing that will bring folks back is winning. Oh, you might get a bump from a coaching change or roster improvements, but that will be short-lived if the record doesn't reflect more wins. The "fans" don't care (in a positive way, that is) if the name of the team changes - heck, they would probably view it as another stupid Maloof marketing-type move, which it would be. You have 25+ years of the Kings name and some great history with the "greatest show on earth" a decade ago. Why spend the money on a name change if you aren't moving to a new city? it makes no sense.

 

[Jose]

Um, news flash - MSE is NOT going to be spending $$$ on a new coach, GM, or a team rebranding. Why the heck would they?

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. They can't afford to pull down the old PBP signage off the building and had tarps that covered old advertising falling on the floor during a game. They are looking for a new (FREE!) arena in VB. They tried to move to Anaheim. They turned down an arena deal here in Sacramento that the NBA (Stern himself!) had negotiated. What part of the not-so-subliminal message are you missing?

So at what point do you think they really are all that interested in re-energizing the city at this point? As long as MSE are the owners, this team is one foot out the door and Sacramento means nothing to them (MSE), despite all the sellouts, etc. It will take new ownership to have any sort of stability and get the building full again on a nightly basis. MSE does not have the funding, capacity, or desire to take this team to the next level. They are looking at $$$ only, given their current financial status. And they see a new city and "free" arena as their golden ticket. Their demands are completely unreasonable and absurd.

They see a new city, free arena, free move, relocation fee paid, and loan to Sac paid... if VB pulls that off (unlikely), they're out.

If they end up having to stay, sure, they won't spend $$ on the team but a new name? I wouldn't put it past them. New name = lots of new jerseys being sold. They can still play at STA even if it says "Kings"...

 

[Bricklayer]

I have an idea for the Maloofs if the team ends up staying in Sacramento for next year and for the foreseeable future. This is assuming that the rest of this year continues to be somewhat of a disaster and that the fans are at least as apathetic as most are right now. The Maloofs need to rename the team. Probably to the "Royals" but possibly something that might be Sacramento related (like what the River Cats did). Let's face it, the name "Kings" is not the greatest to begin with and if you throw out the Webber-Vlade era, it's just tied with a lot of heartache and pain.

If they did this, got a real coach, and apologized to the city and started to rebrand the team with the new name, logo, colors, etc. I actually think it could reenergize the city's love for the team. If they chose a Sacramento related name it could really help clean up their image around the city and with the fans.

I mean, really, what do they possibly have to lose at this point?

The last time they warmed up to rename the team it was as a preparation to move the team.

And no, Kings is a very good NBA name. And its an ancient franchise. Renaming it would be a classic noveau shallow **** thing to do, but all it would do is serve to break the last bonds, not save them. The Sacramento Guppies can walk out of town and nobody would care anymore. IN fact it makes them easier to contract too. These are the Kings.

 

[VF21]

Renaming the team would do nothing except alienate every single Kings fan who has supported the team from day one.

 

[Warhawk]

New name = lots of new jerseys being sold. They can still play at STA even if it says "Kings"...

Just change the jersey style again and folks who buy jerseys will want new ones. Or, you know, put together a team that succeeds and folks will buy more then, too.

 

[LWP777]

The last time they warmed up to rename the team it was as a preparation to move the team.

And no, Kings is a very good NBA name. And its an ancient franchise. Renaming it would be a classic noveau shallow **** thing to do, but all it would do is serve to break the last bonds, not save them. The Sacramento Guppies can walk out of town and nobody would care anymore. IN fact it makes them easier to contract too. These are the Kings.

You really think "Kings" is a good name? I've always thought it was really lame and I've loved this team since I was 12 years old.

Yes, it's an ancient franchise but the name has been changed several times.

 

[Bricklayer]

You really think "Kings" is a good name? I've always thought it was really lame and I've loved this team since I was 12 years old.

Yes, it's an ancient franchise but the name has been changed several times.

Its a great name. One of the better ones actually. And a pure natural if you are winning. Kings of the Court and all that.

 

[VF21]

You really think "Kings" is a good name? I've always thought it was really lame and I've loved this team since I was 12 years old.

Yes, it's an ancient franchise but the name has been changed several times.

I think it's a good name. Much better, for example, than "Lakers." I've always loved it and I've loved this team since 1985.

You perhaps should have included a poll with this question to gauge response. I think if you had you would have found the vast majority of people in opposition to your suggestion.

 

[LWP777]

I think it's a good name. Much better, for example, than "Lakers." I've always loved it and I've loved this team since 1985.

You perhaps should have included a poll with this question to gauge response. I think if you had you would have found the vast majority of people in opposition to your suggestion.

Yeah, I though of the poll but after I already posted. It didn't look like there was a way to add a poll after the original post was posted.

 

[pshn80]

I think it's a good name. Much better, for example, than "Lakers." I've always loved it and I've loved this team since 1985.

You perhaps should have included a poll with this question to gauge response. I think if you had you would have found the vast majority of people in opposition to your suggestion.

Agree. Don't think it's worth a poll. Maybe taking up bird watching as a diversion would help.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

If either of those happen the only thing that will bring folks back is winning. Oh, you might get a bump from a coaching change or roster improvements, but that will be short-lived if the record doesn't reflect more wins.

There's another way to bring folks back - sign on the dotted line to build a new arena downtown along with a long-term (25-30 yr) lease commitment. I guarantee that would do wonders that renaming the team (or even winning) couldn't touch. Obviously if the team were to still stink five years into a new arena you're going to get some waning enthusiasm, but "Our Team" >> "Winning Team" >>> "New Name On The S.O.S."

 

[Warhawk]

There's another way to bring folks back - sign on the dotted line to build a new arena downtown along with a long-term (25-30 yr) lease commitment. I guarantee that would do wonders that renaming the team (or even winning) couldn't touch. Obviously if the team were to still stink five years into a new arena you're going to get some waning enthusiasm, but "Our Team" >> "Winning Team" >>> "New Name On The S.O.S."

Good point. I was thinking of the team itself, but that is obviously a great consideration.

 

[VF21]

Yeah, I though of the poll but after I already posted. It didn't look like there was a way to add a poll after the original post was posted.

Ask and ye shall receive.

 

[bajaden]

First of all, whats the point? There's nothing wrong with the teams name. Actually it sort of fits when you think of the Delta King paddle boat. But thats beside the point. They were the Royals in Syracuse and Cincinnatti, but when they moved to Kansas City, they obviously thought there was a conflict with the baseball teams name, and thusly they changed the name to the Kings.

The Kings moved to sacramento in 1985, and between 1985 and 2005, they brought nothing but joy and good intertainment to the city. That covers 20 years that we all loved and followed the Kings. So While I'll admit that the last 6 or 7 years have been less than what any of us wanted, I'm not about to change the name of the team because of it. The problem isn't the name, the problem is the team that bears the name. Fix the problem, and the name is just fine!

 

[kennadog]

The name is fine and a lot better than many other team names in the NBA. And its one of the oldest franchises in the NBA. The only name I could see changing it to is the original "Royals," but that seems pointless.

Actually "Lakers" made some sense when the team was started in Minnesota, "The Land of a Thousand Lakes." Really dumb name in LA, where they have to get their water from far away and I don't think there's ever been a natural lake anywhere close to LA. If they want a water-related name, then the LA "Swimming Pools" would be more realistic.

Capt. Factorial hit the nail on the head. You want fans to come back? Commit to the arena deal and Sacramento as a major first step to repairing the mess you've made, Maloofs.

 

[rainmaker]

If anything, if the team stays the Maloofs should change their name.

 

[kennadog]

If anything, if the team stays the Maloofs should change their name.

And go into the witless protection program.

To protect the Kings fans from them.

 

[LWP777]

It doesn't appear that my name change idea has gone over too well! Lol

I still think the name Kings is really lame!

 

[bajaden]

It doesn't appear that my name change idea has gone over too well! Lol

I still think the name Kings is really lame!

Hey, how about the Pelican's? Or, there's alway the Queens! Let me see, Hmmm! The Knights isn't bad! How about the Serfs, the Barons, the Dukes, the Peons, or, we could call them the Robinhoods, or the Hoods for short. Think I'll stick with the Kings!

 

[Trueblood]

I actually think the opposite. Not only is Kings a good name but the city should fight to keep it in the event of a Maloof relocation. Make the Maloofs change the name to Royals or something that befits whatever market they relocate to.

I may be alone on this but I'm still not opposed to expansion if the league is willing to go that route. We know that Seattle would prefer expansion so if the Maloofs get their way, then having double expansion into Sacramento and Seattle would be perfect. And the name should be the Kings.

 

[spok22s]

How about Sacramento Tanks?

 

[LWP777]

I can't believe the poll is 36-1! I still stand by my idea! Great men sometimes stand alone for their ideas!

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Great men sometimes stand alone for their ideas!

The converse of that statement is not necessarily true!

 

[Rug King]

The Heartbreakers

 

[Jose]

The Heartbreakers

The Hobos? Fitting, since the organization is broke and can't afford a house (arena) even with enormous government help, so they settle for what is basically a shelter at this point. Not to mention panhandling all over the US for $$ (VB? Anaheim? Seattle? Anyone?)

Our uniforms can mimic a signs that says "Will relocate for $"...