Remembering Chris Webber

#1
I was never a huge fan of Chris Webber from the day he arrived in Sacramento in May 1998. The TEAM and those glory days for sure - not one individual part. I knew Webber's history from his days at the Univ. of Michigan through his numerous NBA stops - filled with just about as many mis-steps as glory. No one can deny he was a very special talent and deserves accolades as a great college and NBA player. Strangely Ron Artest did more right away to win me over than CWebb did - Artest guaranteeing the Kings would make the playoffs and promptly delivering on it. Contrasted with Webber who announced he did not want to go to Sactown - No! Not there! I wish CWebb all the best, but I won't be on any rah, rah, bandwagon demanding the Sacramento Kings retire his #4 jersey. Unfortunately, as great as he was it's still a rather tarnished image and legacy - of not quite "getting there." It all started on the national stage long ago on one March Madness night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFnNt28nZko
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
I was never a huge fan of Chris Webber from the day he arrived in Sacramento in May 1998. The TEAM and those glory days for sure - not one individual part. I knew Webber's history from his days at the Univ. of Michigan through his numerous NBA stops - filled with just about as many mis-steps as glory. No one can deny he was a very special talent and deserves accolades as a great college and NBA player. Strangely Ron Artest did more right away to win me over than CWebb did - Artest guaranteeing the Kings would make the playoffs and promptly delivering on it. Contrasted with Webber who announced he did not want to go to Sactown - No! Not there! I wish CWebb all the best, but I won't be on any rah, rah, bandwagon demanding the Sacramento Kings retire his #4 jersey. Unfortunately, as great as he was it's still a rather tarnished image and legacy - of not quite "getting there." It all started on the national stage long ago on one March Madness night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFnNt28nZko

On the day that the man retires, in what sort of churlish world is a thread titled "Remembering Chris Webber" turned into "Trashing Chris Webber Because I Lack Perspective and Did Not Know What I was Watching"?

Way though to dig up the video from when he was 19/20 years old half a decade before he showed up in Sacto. And you Artest people blather on about letting go of the past.

As an aside, Chris was 6/6 (really 7/7 since it was his half of the season that got us in the next year) on that playoff guarantee. How is Ron doing?
 
#4
As an aside, Chris was 6/6 (really 7/7 since it was his half of the season that got us in the next year) on that playoff guarantee. How is Ron doing?
Like I said, it's about THE TEAM not the individual part. Artest willed the Kings to the playoffs with help from Bonzi, Mike and others. Artest has not had as much support since and the most Kings could have hoped for was a low seed #8 like they got - not looking for a #1-2-3 seed in the Kings heyday. Right now on Sports1140 the whole program it about CWebb and it's all about the positives plus the negatives - because that's just his mixed legacy.
 
#6
Like I said, it's about THE TEAM not the individual part. Artest willed the Kings to the playoffs with help from Bonzi, Mike and others. Artest has not had as much support since and the most Kings could have hoped for was a low seed #8 like they got - not looking for a #1-2-3 seed in the Kings heyday. Right now on Sports1140 the whole program it about CWebb and it's all about the positives plus the negatives - because that's just his mixed legacy.

Give me a freaking break dude. This shouldn't be about drama or mixed legacy or any crap like that. We need to respect the man who put Sactown on the map, the man who played his heart out every night here, the man who was HOF bound before he blew up his knee in Dallas. Sorry but if you believe it was the team and not Chris that was great then you are DELUSIONAL.

I like Ron and all but he can't hold a candle to Webb. Chris was a truly great player who had some unfortunate turns in his career that really screwed him over and robbed him of a championship. Ron is a good player who is fun to watch on a crappy team and is a basket case at times. Someone should post a bunch of great C-Webb moments from youtube, if nobody does I will in a little while.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#9
I shouldn't even have to bother with this, but here goes:

The official Goodbye Video after the trade (need to skip to about the 1:30 mark, not sure what is in front of it): [yt=Official Goodbye]7cFDrvhnkJY&NR=1[/yt]


The first half of a tribute video put together by a very talented Kingsfans member: [yt=Kingsfans Tribute Pt 1]ibO-cLXF_Ug&feature=related[/yt]
(do not know if the second half is out there)


And this one was nicely done:
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Obviously a ton of them out there.
 
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#12
Sad to see such a great talent leave. He should be remembered for the fantastic seasons he displayed here in Sac more than anything - he was an amazing player to watch and a full-on superstar that was one championship away from true greatness.

I'm not liking the initial reaction from the media - they're highlighting his flaws more than his strengths - but maybe that's because I'm a die-hard Kings fan. Sure, the guy had quite the tumultuous career, the phantom timeout, the Nellie debacle, problems in Washington et al. But I think more of the focus should be that he was truly a damn great ballplayer.

It goes without saying that the knee injury really ended his career. I strongly believe that we would have gone on to win 2 back to back championships had that not happened...and C-Webb would still be playing to this day. But what happened...happened. Wish the best of luck to the fella...and oh yeah now that he's got more time on his hands, up the food quality at Center Court ;)
 
#13
Give me a freaking break dude. This shouldn't be about drama or mixed legacy or any crap like that. We need to respect the man who put Sactown on the map, the man who played his heart out every night here, the man who was HOF bound before he blew up his knee in Dallas. Sorry but if you believe it was the team and not Chris that was great then you are DELUSIONAL.

I like Ron and all but he can't hold a candle to Webb. Chris was a truly great player who had some unfortunate turns in his career that really screwed him over and robbed him of a championship. Ron is a good player who is fun to watch on a crappy team and is a basket case at times. Someone should post a bunch of great C-Webb moments from youtube, if nobody does I will in a little while.
amen to that
 
#14
Chris Webber was electric. He was the best player on the team I'll love forever. No one on that team was perfect, but together they were damn near basketball perfection. Webber was crucial for that team.

(Since I watched the videos, I have to go get the tissues now.:eek:)
 
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#16
C-Webb....we'll miss ya buddy!

One of the greatest Kings in franchise history.
One of the greatest passing big men in NBA history.

That smile, that smirk, the passion, the heart.

C-Webb FTW!
 
#19
I was never a huge fan of Chris Webber from the day he arrived in Sacramento in May 1998. The TEAM and those glory days for sure - not one individual part. I knew Webber's history from his days at the Univ. of Michigan through his numerous NBA stops - filled with just about as many mis-steps as glory. No one can deny he was a very special talent and deserves accolades as a great college and NBA player. Strangely Ron Artest did more right away to win me over than CWebb did - Artest guaranteeing the Kings would make the playoffs and promptly delivering on it. Contrasted with Webber who announced he did not want to go to Sactown - No! Not there! I wish CWebb all the best, but I won't be on any rah, rah, bandwagon demanding the Sacramento Kings retire his #4 jersey. Unfortunately, as great as he was it's still a rather tarnished image and legacy - of not quite "getting there." It all started on the national stage long ago on one March Madness night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFnNt28nZko
Artest compared to Webber in terms of importance to the Kings franchise - are you kidding me?!
 
#22
Quick story. I'm friends with a former Kings dancer, and we both know Courtney Alexander, the former Fresno State Bulldog who was with the Kings for a short period of time. That connection led to me meeting Chris Webber in person at a restaurant in Sac after a game. He was very generous with his time. VERY cool. He even signed my Kings hat and bought our drinks! Maurice Evans was with the Kings back then, and C-Webb called him "Little L.L." after rapper L.L. Cool J because of his muscular build. I liked Webber before I met him, and absolutely love the guy now. It bums me out that his comeback didn't pan out, but I look forward to his jersey retirement ceremony on opening night for the 08-09 season. I'm just guessing on that, but I sure hope it happens very soon. He deserves it.

Thanks for the many wonderful memories, Chris!!! You put the Sacramento Kings on the map! :D
 
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#23
C-Webb....we'll miss ya buddy!

One of the greatest Kings in franchise history.
One of the greatest passing big men in NBA history.

That smile, that smirk, the passion, the heart.

C-Webb FTW!
Thats beautiful. Amen to that. I will always and forever love the team the was built around Webber Bibby and Adleman.
 
#24
Thank you Chris for giving us so many great memories!NBA won't be the same without you!I would really love to see him as our GM,as. coach or something like that!
 
#25
I Will Remember C-webb the Man and the Player

An original Purple Reign post from February 23, 2005 after the trade......

Personally this is my last word on this trade. Once I see Chris slip on that 76er uniform on Saturday and play against the Kings, closure will begin for me.

Chris Webber was a man that took a load of critisism throughout his almost seven years in Sacramento. Some of the critisism was self inflicted, but as a 17 plus year resident of Sacramento, I saw a lot of unfairness when it came to Chris Webber the basketball player and the man. This is a quote from a writer of the Philadelphia newspaper:

"To paraphrase rapper Jay-Z, Webber's many talents on a basketball court are a gift and a curse. His body is a hybrid of seemingly inconsistent parts; no big man is supposed to be able to pass as well as the 6-foot-9 Webber does, and surely such a passer shouldn't have his Velcro-like hands. A power forward shouldn't be able to step out on the perimeter and drain 20-footers all day, but Webber can.

And all of that is attached to a smile that overpowers his face - a face that showcases wry humor, intellectual candlepower and innate curiosity.

Those gifts, however, create monstrous expectations. And throughout his 11-year NBA career, Webber - acquired by the Sixers late Wednesday from Sacramento - has come up just short of fulfilling all that potential with a championship".

Did Chris Webber diss Sacramento when he first got here, YES.
Did he court other towns while he became a Free Agent, YES.
Did he blast the media over his Tyra Banks relationship, YES.
Did he lie to a grand jury about something that happened 15 years ago, YES
Did he get suspended violating the leagues substance abuse policy, YES
Did he call out his teammates, when he should have looked in the mirror, YES

But throughout all of this and the things I am forgetting, dude was straight up entertaining, interesting, complex and compelling all at the same time both on and off the court. He was a lightening rod for both praise and controversy, shouldering both tremendous love as well as overwhelming hate from the same community. But what I will say is that we witnessed a tremendous amount of maturity from the 25 year old that did not know if he wanted to be in Sacramento, to a 32 year old man who said "he would never trade this for the world".

As far as I am concerned, though the Kings are my team and I will back them to the death. But this team is clearly not as entertaining without Vlade, Doug Christie and especially Chris Webber. Through his philophanthropic efforts with the TLC Soup Kitchen, Crocker Art Museum, Grant Union School District and other things. His articulation, his quotes, his snarl.... and that unbelievable smile that would make me melt AND I AM A HAPPLY MARRIED, HETROSEXUAL MAN :D Clearly, and I mean clearly this team is not as interesting or entertaining as it once was. Will we win? That remains to be seen. But sports is more than about wins and losses. More than whether one cat takes 20 plus shots per game and the other cat is trying to find his way. It is about being entertained. That is what Chris Webber the man did, he entertained and we all won both on the court and in the community.
 
#28
I'm probably in the minority here, but I was/am a Pro-Chris Webber in a Kings uniform guy and a Pro-Ron Artest in a Kings uniform guy.

These guys are star players who are immensely talented. Immensely talented guys make it easier for everyone else and are what it takes to WIN overall.
 
#29
All being said and done... Chris was the nucleus of one of the greatest and most exciting NBA teams of all time. I hope his jersey is hung from the rafters at Arco Arena. Love him or hate him, he was the face of the Kings for a lot of years.
 
#30
Chris Webber is my favorite King of all time. Glad to see him finally hanging it up, although I wish he would have retired a King. Wish he would have done so earlier instead of watching him try to play on bad wheels. Hope they retire #4 shortly.