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Honestly, he should thank his lucky stars that his "camp" isn't getting more heat for helping get a coach fired and leading to the Walton situation.
Dave Joerger got Dave Joerger fired.
Honestly, he should thank his lucky stars that his "camp" isn't getting more heat for helping get a coach fired and leading to the Walton situation.
Yeah, he had it coming, being the Kings coach with the most wins in over a decade and playing to the players strengths and all that.Dave Joerger got Dave Joerger fired.
Yeah, he had it coming, being the Kings coach with the most wins in over a decade and playing to the players strengths and all that.
Second team in two tries he tried to pull a petty stubborn headstrong power-play with the front office. I have as many questions and concerns about the front office as everyone else, but when the same head coach gets fired from two jobs in in a relatively short amount of time for the same reasons... you have yourself a pattern. Good riddance.
That's news for me. Do you have a source on that?Second team in two tries he tried to pull a petty stubborn headstrong power-play with the front office. I have as many questions and concerns about the front office as everyone else, but when the same head coach gets fired from two jobs in in a relatively short amount of time for the same reasons... you have yourself a pattern. Good riddance.
It’s pretty common knowledge. I don’t know of any direct quotes but I believe he butted heads in Memphis so much they allowed him to seek another job while with them. But if you search there should be some articles. While here there was the Brandon Williams saga. Stuff recently reported by amick, and you can see it in plenty of his post game interviews. The guy is a good coach, but just seems like kind of a jerk to some.That's news for me. Do you have a source on that?
I second that motion. Petty power play? Or is it meddling front office / owner? Joerger kicked ass in Memphis and he was on his way in Sacramento. Sure he is abrasive but he Has been successful everywhere he has coached. Joerger had to deal with a front office crapshow when B Williams was here meddling. Joerger >>>>>>> Luke WaltonThat's news for me. Do you have a source on that?
It’s pretty common knowledge. I don’t know of any direct quotes but I believe he butted heads in Memphis so much they allowed him to seek another job while with them. But if you search there should be some articles. While here there was the Brandon Williams saga. Stuff recently reported by amick, and you can see it in plenty of his post game interviews. The guy is a good coach, but just seems like kind of a jerk to some.
But what if both front offices were wrong and he knows wtf he's doing? At some point you need to choose between a guy overstepping his boundaries and a guy who doesn't tolerate incompetence and is right. I'd rather have a coach like a Pop or Nelson who has major front office sway that a "shut up and coach" mentality for somebody who ended up being rightSecond team in two tries he tried to pull a petty stubborn headstrong power-play with the front office. I have as many questions and concerns about the front office as everyone else, but when the same head coach gets fired from two jobs in in a relatively short amount of time for the same reasons... you have yourself a pattern. Good riddance.
But what if both front offices were wrong and he knows wtf he's doing? At some point you need to choose between a guy overstepping his boundaries and a guy who doesn't tolerate incompetence and is right. I'd rather have a coach like a Pop or Nelson who has major front office sway that a "shut up and coach" mentality for somebody who ended up being right
If David was so right potentially, then why wasn’t he immediatly hired by one of the other openings? Or even on the list of guys getting interviewed?
Maybe he is waiting for the right situation, maybe he gets hired next year. Way too many variables involved to just say “Why didn’t he get hired right away?”If David was so right potentially, then why wasn’t he immediatly hired by one of the other openings? Or even on the list of guys getting interviewed?
Who says he was even looking to get back into work? I remember hearing he wanted a break from coaching for a bit.If David was so right potentially, then why wasn’t he immediatly hired by one of the other openings? Or even on the list of guys getting interviewed?
I believe he’s similar to Malone.....but definitely more stubborn. The thing is though, he can learn from this and be better.Joerger started burning bridges at/around the time the Williams spat became public and I think he tanked the team after the ASB. Good coach but lacks the professional skills to survive long term in any destination. I do not see him lasting with a "strong" FO.
Williams was a total tool too. This isn't a picking sides thing, it's a keep your dirty laundry in the laundry room thing.
Joerger started burning bridges at/around the time the Williams spat became public and I think he tanked the team after the ASB. Good coach but lacks the professional skills to survive long term in any destination. I do not see him lasting with a "strong" FO.
Williams was a total tool too. This isn't a picking sides thing, it's a keep your dirty laundry in the laundry room thing.
Everyone wanted Doncic. Some of us have just accepted it and moved on.If the rumors are correct and a lot of the tension was because Joerger wanted Doncic.....I don't know how anyone could argue with that.
He wanted a pay raise in Memphis that they were unwilling to do.It’s pretty common knowledge. I don’t know of any direct quotes but I believe he butted heads in Memphis so much they allowed him to seek another job while with them. But if you search there should be some articles. While here there was the Brandon Williams saga. Stuff recently reported by amick, and you can see it in plenty of his post game interviews. The guy is a good coach, but just seems like kind of a jerk to some.
Everyone wanted Doncic. Some of us have just accepted it and moved on.
I do think the last 10 games of the season featured about 7 that were extremely winnable including 2 of the last 3 that we dropped ... especially the last game that everyone wanted to win to get 40 wins and the Blazers were tanking until Joerger decided to throw that game. He blatantly lost us that game in the second half. And f him for doing so.
Who says he was even looking to get back into work? I remember hearing he wanted a break from coaching for a bit.
Also; Once the league figured out how to play the Kings and that FAST AT ALL TIMES stopped working, the Kings crashed down to reality. Hard. Their style of play that brought one glorious half-season of mild success wasn’t sustainable.
We certainly didn’t fire a guy who’s going to be the next Mike Malone, or anything close. I would put anything on it.
He leaked his agenda and started a PR campaign against the FO. It doesn't matter if he was right. This is thoroughly unprofessional.
And I'm sorry participation trophy or no, reaching .500 and then failing that the 40 win plateau was huge for the fan base and he flipped us off out the door. Damned right I am mad.
It's amazing people don't see the correlation of how hard Bjelica carries the team when he plays well and how much they suck when he doesn't, even after over like 100 games of him playing it's still in total denial. You and a couple of others pick up on it, I don't think people realise how hard he's going to be to replace at his cost. He and Holmes are the only difference makers on the team this year.How did he tank the team? Bjelica's play fell off and that caused the entire team to fall off. He was top 30 in many advanced metrics for the first half of the year and then just played like garbage after that. Go back and look at the Kings stretch where they just won 6 of 8 over the last couple weeks. Bjelica played highly efficient "point forward" games in many of those wins. He's the unsung hero of this team and many people don't notice it but when he plays well, the Kings win way more often than not. Problem is that he's not that high level of a player and he can't sustain it for an entire season so the Kings will never win relying on him.
Joerger played it perfectly. Bjelica fell off and the Kings fell out of contention. After that he ramped up the minutes for Bagley and Giles and let his young players develop.
If the rumors are correct and a lot of the tension was because Joerger wanted Doncic.....I don't know how anyone could argue with that.
I called him a top 3 player on the team last season and got laughed at. Such is life.It's amazing people don't see the correlation of how hard Bjelica carries the team when he plays well and how much they suck when he doesn't, even after over like 100 games of him playing it's still in total denial. You and a couple of others pick up on it, I don't think people realise how hard he's going to be to replace at his cost. He and Holmes are the only difference makers on the team this year.
I'm not disagreeing there, but I was pointing out his value, because the team doesn't really have that many pieces that move the ball and pass like him, or have the range he does. Replacing him is going to be very difficult.A team where Bjelica is a top-3 player isn’t a playoff team. He’s a good piece to have. A good complimentary piece. No way in hell is he a building block.
You might want to educate yourself on his whole career.Also; Once the league figured out how to play the Kings and that FAST AT ALL TIMES stopped working, the Kings crashed down to reality. Hard. Their style of play that brought one glorious half-season of mild success wasn’t sustainable.
We certainly didn’t fire a guy who’s going to be the next Mike Malone, or anything close. I would put anything on it.
You might want to educate yourself on his whole career.