Record on this 5 game homestand?

Kings record over the 5 game homestand?

  • 5-0

    Votes: 4 7.3%
  • 4-1

    Votes: 15 27.3%
  • 3-2

    Votes: 25 45.5%
  • 2-3

    Votes: 10 18.2%
  • 1-4

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 0-5

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Total voters
    55
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, every single time we have posted a thread like this over these past quite a few years now, EVERY single time we put one up before a promising stretch of games, the other Kings teams have always failed to meet expectations. Or we have raised expectations too high given how terrible many of those teams were. Every single time the results of these polls have been too optimistic. Is this the team and homestand where the worm finally turns? Well...we're at that point again.

This may be it. We're 10-20. We have a 5 game cake of a homestand coming up. We should be favored to win 4 of the 5 games. And then we hit the road for an absolutely brutal murderer's row of a dozen games against playoff teams and contenders at every corner, taking right through the end of the month. So this could be it. If we fail on this homestand,, and then go hit the road to face the league's elite for three weeks, by the end of January we will officially be out of any even imagined playoff picture. If we however were to go 4-1, or even 5-0 on the homestand, then you face the brutal schedule from a position of more strength, can aim for 4-8 and some such and still hope to come out of the entire month of games in the .500 range.

So...this is it. 5 games that likely are put up or shut up and go tank:

1/02 PHI (Road Record 3-13, L10: 3-7)
1/04 CHA (Road Record 6-9, L10: 4-6)
1/07 POR (Road Record 13-4, L10: 7-3)
1/10 ORL (Road Record 3-11, L10: 4-6)
1/12 CLE (Road Record 2-14, L10: 2-8)


Oh, and the rest of the month + first game of Feb?: @IND, @MIN, @MEM, @OKC, @NOP, @HOU, IND, DEN, @UTH, MEM, @DAL, @SAN
 
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I'm going with 4-1. Philly is Philly, we competed well with Charlotte in the comeback (away), we beat Orlando away, Cleveland has an injured Kyrie (day-to-day). Heck, Portland is beatable at home if we win the first two and carry over some momentum + their recent losses.

And wow, I've never seen such a long/brutal road trip.
 
1/02 PHI (Road Record 3-13, L10: 3-7)
1/04 CHA (Road Record 6-9, L10: 4-6)
1/07 POR (Road Record 13-4, L10: 7-3)
1/10 ORL (Road Record 3-11, L10: 4-6)
1/12 CLE (Road Record 2-14, L10: 2-8)


Oh, and the rest of the month + first game of Feb?: @IND, @MIN, @MEM, @OKC, @NOH, @HOU, IND, DEN, @UTH, MEM, @DAL, @SAN

We're traveling so much, we're traveling back in time?!?
 
This team is showing signs. The "big 3" are performing at a pretty good level but our bench has been diabolical. If our bench provides some support we can beat just about anyone but if they lay an egg, we can get beaten by anyone.

Traditionally, we generally physce ourselves up against good teams and come out flat against average teams. I still think with more practice time at home and players building some chemistry, we should win at least 3 and could go all 5.

Philly will be interesting game for us, especially defensively. Can IT keep MCW out of the paint given the size disadvantage. We seem to struggle against stretch bigs and Hawes has been hanging out at the perimeter chucking 3s. Who will defend him and how will they go? I still think we should win because I can't see them having an answer for Cousins.

As for Portland, if our bench provides some support,its a pretty winnable game for us despite their good form. We have been building bit of a momentum ourselves just quietly and it should only get better for us from here on.
 
To me if we really have improved and are a better team we HAVE to beat Philly coming off a back to back if we lose to them at home it undoes all the hard work it took to beat Miami/Houston and compete with the Spurs. We have to start winning games we are suppose to win first imo lossing to teams like the Jazz to me is unacceptable even for a 10 win team like ourselves.

If we beat Philly i expect 4-1/3-2 if we loss to Philly 1-4/2-3 imo

On papar only Portland should be tough with Charlotte being a issue but one we can solve at home. Other than Portland we are way more talented than all these team and have the two best players on any of the teams coming up minus Portalnd, these next 5 games will tell us if this team really is better or if it's same old same old.

It's not ok that the team only seems to get up for games against elite teams but does not take care of weaker teams/teams on our level.
 
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This team is showing signs. The "big 3" are performing at a pretty good level but our bench has been diabolical. If our bench provides some support we can beat just about anyone but if they lay an egg, we can get beaten by anyone.

I never thought I'd say this but Carl Landry may be just what the doctor ordered (when it comes to bench scoring). If he's good for his usual 12-15 points per game as out sixth man, it helps alleviate the need for Malone to start throwing Jimmer drives into the game plan.
 
I never thought I'd say this but Carl Landry may be just what the doctor ordered (when it comes to bench scoring). If he's good for his usual 12-15 points per game as out sixth man, it helps alleviate the need for Malone to start throwing Jimmer drives into the game plan.
yeah if you can get some from carl and not have to count on 25 from Jimmer and Thornton it would be nice. 30 from landry, thornton, and jimmer combined would be pretty good
 
Roleplayers traditionally play better at home: I'm hoping for some of that Travis "Blazer killer" Outlaw to show up. If we can just slow Aldridge down, we have a good chance to run the table on the home stand.

Also, what's up with having a prediction poll where people are still allowed to vote in it, after all of the games have been played?
 
To me if we really have improved and are a better team we HAVE to beat Philly coming off a back to back if we lose to them at home it undoes all the hard work it took to beat Miami/Houston and compete with the Spurs. We have to start winning games we are suppose to win first imo lossing to teams like the Jazz to me is unacceptable even for a 10 win team like ourselves.
The Kings aren't a better team than the Jazz.
 
I went with 3-2. It almost has nothing to do with the competition. The Kings are competing more against themselves than anything else. I figure that they can win over themselves for 3 out of the next 5 games, but anything more than that and it's like you're setting yourself up for dissapointment.

It sure does seem though that they are turning the corner....
 
We are far from a finished or consistent product. I'd be happy with 3-2, despite the advantages we seem to have.

Philly is no pushover although they are on a back to back. They see us as a win I'm sure, as we see them as an easy win, at least the fans. I don't think we are at that point. It's hard to forget getting blown out by Utah at home.

If there's any theoretical playoff run, it has to happen now.
 
I put 3-2
Portland will expose us with our weak guard and big-man defense. Lillard and Aldridge will have career high nights in points and assists. Not rebounds though ( Big CUZ!).

I also think one of Philly or Cleveland will beat us just because I think we'd let our guard down a bit considering they're not as famous as Spurs, Rockets, or Heat. I think the Kings players had a bit of motivation playing against those teams because they felt as though they deserve to be amongst the best. Besides the "Big 3", the rest of the squad is not all that consistent on a game-to-game basis. In which case, we'll struggle until the squad plays as a unit on a game-to-game basis. This is the perfect season for them to mesh, though. Hopefully, we get a decent draft pick (if anything, a good off the bench player for the next couple seasons) as this will more than likely end up being our last decent draft pick for a while if you guys get what I mean ;)
 
I never thought I'd say this but Carl Landry may be just what the doctor ordered (when it comes to bench scoring). If he's good for his usual 12-15 points per game as out sixth man, it helps alleviate the need for Malone to start throwing Jimmer drives into the game plan.

This is true. I hope he does well playing for us. However, one of my main reasons for being hopeful for a quality Landry is that we can throw him in a decent trade for either a quality guard who can defend ala Doug Christie (albeit, no such player exists in the NBA currently) or a decent forward who can protect the post.
We don't really need another big man who can score. We need someone who can come in and protect the post when Big Cuz is on the bench or hell even start over JT (that'll be the day).


Anyone remember Bruce Bowen from the Spurs? Man, if the Kings could have a player like that....
I think the Kings would be doing themselves a favor by using that second draft pick to draft a player with little to none offensive prowess but instead a player who is one of the top college defenders.
 
2-3

I say we lose to a couple teams we should lose to and then lose to one of the teams we should beat. We beat two teams we should beat.
 
A couple? There aren't multiple teams on this home stand that we "should" lose to. On paper, the only "definite" loss is to Portland. At home, we "shouldn't" lose to any of those other teams.
 
you are the one that put it out there. I just wanted an explanation. Maybe your opinion will give more knowledge.
Well for starters they both have 10 wins and despite playing 4 more games than the Kings the Jazz have played 2 fewer games at home than the Kings. If my math is correct (and it can be fuzzy at times) that is 6 more games on the road this year for the young Jazz. The Jazz are something like 9-7 with their current starting lineup of Favors, Marvin Williams, Jefferson Gordan Hayward and Tre Burke.

The Jazz were bad at the beginning of the season playing without their starting point gaurd and legitimate rookie of the year candidate Tre Burke. They also played most of their home games against title contenders and the rest of their games on the road. The Kings were also bad before all the trades but got to play most of their games at home while they were well rested. The Kings did play lots of good teams but got to play them all at home for the first little while.

It also seems that the Kings have caught several breaks in their wins. Playing the Suns twice without Bledsoe, the Jazz without Favors, the Heat without Wade and Allen. While this is bound to happen in an NBA season it doesn't feel like the Jazz have caught those same breaks yet.

The best player on both teams is Cousins but he isn't so much better than what the Jazz have in Favors who isn't nearly as polished offensively but is an efficient offensive player, good defender and good rebounder. Perhaps his best strength is as a pick and roll defender and that is something that Kings are going to struggle with as long as Boogie is there.

Neither team is great but there are reasons for both fan bases to be excited about the future. I realize that I am on a Kings fan site and that most of the posters on here are going to see the Kings in the most positive light possible. That is to be expected, in fact it is what makes us fans of our teams. Go Jazz!
 
I hope I'm wrong but I voted 2-3. Remember, all those bad teams think they should win the game against us, just the same as we are thinking about them. The Kings, even after the Rudy trade, have been just so wildly inconsistent. Until they can string together a 3-4 game winning streak, I just don't have faith in them right now to come away with even 3 wins on this home stand. :(
 
A couple? There aren't multiple teams on this home stand that we "should" lose to. On paper, the only "definite" loss is to Portland. At home, we "shouldn't" lose to any of those other teams.
The Kings should go 4-1 but they shouldn't have beat Houston so.....who knows.
 
Well, when you summarize matchups as Gay capable of eating Parsons, Cousins outplaying Howard, and Harden being generous to anyone he's supposed to guard, and those were offensively able/defensively inept guys, win over Houston sounds reasonable.
 
This is true. I hope he does well playing for us. However, one of my main reasons for being hopeful for a quality Landry is that we can throw him in a decent trade for either a quality guard who can defend ala Doug Christie (albeit, no such player exists in the NBA currently) or a decent forward who can protect the post.

SacKings2002NBAChampions meet Lance Stephenson. Lance Stephenson, meet SacKings2002NBAChampions. Oh, and Wes Matthews. Oh, and Gordon Hayward says hi. Jimmy Butler's around here somewhere too.

The point is that these guys are out there. It's rare to find a non-veteran version of them, and they aren't cheap, but they are out there.

Landry's contract is probably untradeable simply due to its length. With the new CBA, almost every club has become very cap conscious, and paying an old man for 4 years at above-market price is the kind of thing that you only trade for another albatross.
 
Cousins/Gay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone on the Jazz roster
No. I might even go with Cousins/Gay slightly better than any 2 players on the Jazz Roster. Your assertation that those 2 players are way, way better is just you being a homer, which is fine but doesn't make you right.
 
Which is worse, curse of Spencer Hawes, or curse of Lemarcus Aldridge? Maybe both equally. I see 3 or 4 wins as very doable but no way guaranteed. I'll be somewhat content with 3 hope for 4, looking to reserve playoff tix with 5!:) Anything worse than 3 would be home court miserable.
 
Cousins/Gay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone on the Jazz roster
There's being a homer, and then there's complete closed-mindedness and insularity. I'm not saying that Cousins and Gay are bad, or that the Jazz are even any good, but if Cousins and Gay were that much better than anyone on the Jazz roster, we wouldn't be in fourteenth place.

Also, even if you were to stipulate that it were true, put it like this: I'll gladly take their 3-12 over ours.
 
There's being a homer, and then there's complete closed-mindedness and insularity. I'm not saying that Cousins and Gay are bad, or that the Jazz are even any good, but if Cousins and Gay were that much better than anyone on the Jazz roster, we wouldn't be in fourteenth place.

Also, even if you were to stipulate that it were true, put it like this: I'll gladly take their 3-12 over ours.
Didn't you say the Jazz would be way better than Portland this year?
 
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