Realistic Trades we can make

[KingMilz]

I just wanted to make a thread in which we can talk about realistic trades we can make to potenitally improve the team.

With the Lakers: we could potentially get Gasol (unlikely but still realistic), who has struggled mightly and has been humiliated by the coach. The Lakers need a athletic PF who can shoot and run the floor and a back up PG, Jason Thompson fits the mould perfectly and Isiah Thomas or Brooks is better than any PG the Lakers have other than Nash. (we would probably have to throw in something else to but thats fine)

This could improve the Kings by having a elite passer for his position and playing Gasol at centre where he thrives, we add size, a legit shot maker/creator,high IQ, move Cousins to PF and most importantly a winner.

The other guy who we could potentially get is Jordan Hill who has had issues with the Lakers coach since there time in New York and who is currently getting DNP's. If we can aquire Hill we have a top notch rebounder and a guy who will play harder each game than any current player on the roster. Hes a good defender and brings energy to the game which we have lacked, and he would provide if given a look more 2nd chance oppurtunites with his epic offensive rebounding.

 

[VF21]

We have an entire area devoted to trades: the Personnel Moves forum. For that reason, I'm moving this thread to that location.

 

[mac]

I just wanted to make a thread in which we can talk about realistic trades we can make to potenitally improve the team.

With the Lakers: we could potentially get Gasol (unlikely but still realistic), who has struggled mightly and has been humiliated by the coach. The Lakers need a athletic PF who can shoot and run the floor and a back up PG, Jason Thompson fits the mould perfectly and Isiah Thomas or Brooks is better than any PG the Lakers have other than Nash. (we would probably have to throw in something else to but thats fine)

This could improve the Kings by having a elite passer for his position and playing Gasol at centre where he thrives, we add size, a legit shot maker/creator,high IQ, move Cousins to PF and most importantly a winner.

The other guy who we could potentially get is Jordan Hill who has had issues with the Lakers coach since there time in New York and who is currently getting DNP's. If we can aquire Hill we have a top notch rebounder and a guy who will play harder each game than any current player on the roster. Hes a good defender and brings energy to the game which we have lacked, and he would provide if given a look more 2nd chance oppurtunites with his epic offensive rebounding.

Umm think you're forgetting one tiny little detail. You know that whole salaries have to match and all that?

 

[KingMilz]

Umm think you're forgetting one tiny little detail. You know that whole salaries have to match and all that?

Throw in Salmons, JT and Brooks are roughly 16mil Gasol is 19mil

 

[mac]

Throw in Salmons, JT and Brooks are roughly 16mil Gasol is 19mil

Who plays SF?

 

[KingMilz]

Who plays SF?

On defense Tyreke, offense we will play with 3 guards, Salmons barely contributed anything on ethier end and hes insanely overpaid for what he does and most likely wouldn't make another NBA roster (if he did he would be a 11/12th man). Losing Salmons is far from any kind of loss imo,.

 

[KingsCitizen]

Salmons/Garcia/TRob/Jimmer for Gasol

C - DMC/Chuck
PF - Pau/JT/Outlaw
SF - Honeycutt/JJ/
SG -Reke/MT
PG - AB/IT

Pick up Kenyon Martin, TWill, and Matt Caroll.

 

[KingMilz]

Salmons/Garcia/TRob/Jimmer for Gasol

C - DMC/Chuck
PF - Pau/JT/Outlaw
SF - Honeycutt/JJ/
SG -Reke/MT
PG - AB/IT

Pick up Kenyon Martin, TWill, and Matt Caroll.

Honeycutt, I have yet to see him even play properly, can the dude play? But yeah id do all that in a heartbeat, even someone like Chris Douglas Roberts would be a good pick up at SF.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

the only problem is, the Lakers never make a trade that isnt heavily in their favor

 

[Bricklayer]

I rarely suggest riiduclous elaborate trades amongst uninterested parties. The big names I have mentioned are ones that for a variety of reasons could be there. Gasol (out of favor, big contract) -- would have to start with Salmosn and JT and go from there on that one. Have to be them trading for depth, whic is rarely thier style. Gortat (unhappy with role, refused extension), Prince (in the way of youth movement, they need scorers) etc.

Had not considered Hill, but really, Jordan Hill isn't any better than the non-Cousins bigs we already have.

Darren Collison falling out of favor in Dallas also caught my attention. Although there may be a reason he keeps falling out of favor. Nonetheless, remember he and Thornton chucked and ducked to big rookie numbers together, so another name (I'm not sure why a guy sort of establishing himself as mediocre in multiple stops would really be any better than Brooks who was at least as accomplished before coming to Sacto, but again, just watching for unhappy parties.

Washington could be open to trades for obvious reasons. Nab a vet, although Ariza can't shoot, which does not help, Okafor...? Again? But they still may wait for Wall. Just etc.

The Ed Davis and Calderon situations in Toronto interest me.

You keep waiting for Utah to dump one of its bigs -- unfortunately it is unlikely to be anybody we need (not that Petrie would realize that).

Drew Gooden is being actively shopped in Milwaulkee. Scary only because Jerry nearly creamed himself when we had him for 1 game several years ago.

Look for unhappy teams and unhappy players. Check fit on this end.

 

[KingMilz]

The Ed Davis and Calderon situations in Toronto interest me.

Yeap both of them really have interested me Ed Davis in particular, hes got a very decent post game and I been checking in on him since his UNC days. Great that you bring them up,

Another small name we should consider is Quincy Pondexter hes a glue guy, great attitude who has dramatically improved his shooting since hes gone to Memphis, he does everything you want in a SF hes athletic and costs next to nothing, he won't make us a playoff team by any means but I think hed be a very nice addition.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

the only problem is, the Lakers never make a trade that isnt heavily in their favor

And they never will...that's why/how they've won so many championships.

 

[Section 101]

Any trade thread that has realistic, obvious, etc should be immediately locked.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

the only problem is, the Lakers never make a trade that isnt heavily in their favor

lol they always end up on the winning side of trades. its unreal

 

[upinsmoke]

Ryan Anderson should be a target for us when it comes to looking for trades. Maybe JT+IT or Hayes+IT might spark and intrest but i'm not sure.

 

[DesertFox]

Ryan Anderson should be a target for us when it comes to looking for trades. Maybe JT+IT or Hayes+IT might spark and intrest but i'm not sure.

That window is gone. If they wanted the team should have just signed him in the first place, instead of now having to add an asset to get him.

 

[UK_King]

Aren't the Lakers looking to add Anderson?

 

[Mojo]

Aren't the Lakers looking to add Anderson?

They're looking, but the Hornets won't trade him. He's their best player and pretty much only scorer right now.

As said above, we should of signed Anderson in the offseason if we wanted to go that route.

 

[tyreeeke]

Maybe a change of scenery would help Pau, but he's been whining and soft for the last year or so.

 

[UK_King]

They're looking, but the Hornets won't trade him. He's their best player and pretty much only scorer right now.

As said above, we should of signed Anderson in the offseason if we wanted to go that route.

I don't know how the money looks but i assume they'd dangle Gasol.

 

[Mojo]

I don't know how the money looks but i assume they'd dangle Gasol.

That would be interesting. NO would have to throw in Lopez/spare part to make it work money wise though.

 

[Hadlowe]

Aren't the Lakers looking to add Anderson?

Reportedly, but Anderson has been the best Hornet by a wide margin this season, so there is no reason to think that the Hornets would be looking to move him. They are in the middle of a youth movement, and Gasol won't get them the playoffs this year, so no reason to bring him in.

I liked the idea of bringing Gasol in to mentor Boogie during Gasol's decline (which should be a graceful one -- the man never jumps, so his knees should hold up for another 5 or 6 years,) but the skillsets are overlapping to the point that they are effectively identical. If Adelman was the coach, he could get the two to work together, but with Smart, we need to look for complementary pieces so that the decision making process is so obvious that even a caveman could do it.

The obvious trade partners to me are Milwaukee and Denver. Denver for one of their eleven or so small forwards and Milwaukee for a shot-blocking big man.

Denver we might be able to talk out of a Wilson Chandler for Garcia's expiring, but I would venture a guess that they can get a better offer than that elsewhere.

Milwaukee, unfortunately, wants to ship out one of its two gunny backcourt midgets, and their asking price for an Ellis or Jennings (plus insert random shotblocking bigman here) would be Tyreke. Would you do a Tyreke plus T-Rob swap for Monta Ellis plus Henson? The big-man rotation starts being a little more sensible, but now you have another gunny backcourt midget taking shots away from your dominant center.

 

[Section 101]

Reportedly, but Anderson has been the best Hornet by a wide margin this season, so there is no reason to think that the Hornets would be looking to move him. They are in the middle of a youth movement, and Gasol won't get them the playoffs this year, so no reason to bring him in.

I liked the idea of bringing Gasol in to mentor Boogie during Gasol's decline (which should be a graceful one -- the man never jumps, so his knees should hold up for another 5 or 6 years,) but the skillsets are overlapping to the point that they are effectively identical. If Adelman was the coach, he could get the two to work together, but with Smart, we need to look for complementary pieces so that the decision making process is so obvious that even a caveman could do it.

The obvious trade partners to me are Milwaukee and Denver. Denver for one of their eleven or so small forwards and Milwaukee for a shot-blocking big man.

Denver we might be able to talk out of a Wilson Chandler for Garcia's expiring, but I would venture a guess that they can get a better offer than that elsewhere.

Milwaukee, unfortunately, wants to ship out one of its two gunny backcourt midgets, and their asking price for an Ellis or Jennings (plus insert random shotblocking bigman here) would be Tyreke. Would you do a Tyreke plus T-Rob swap for Monta Ellis plus Henson? The big-man rotation starts being a little more sensible, but now you have another gunny backcourt midget taking shots away from your dominant center.

No to Ellis for anything.

 

[Hadlowe]

No to Ellis for anything.

I don't disagree. Ellis doesn't fit as anything on a contending team except as a super sixth man and Thornton already does that for much cheaper. But if you had to take Ellis to get a paint protector, would you? What if the price was Thornton and Robinson? (I can see a Thornton Jennings backcourt working for the Bucks.)

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't disagree. Ellis doesn't fit as anything on a contending team except as a super sixth man and Thornton already does that for much cheaper. But if you had to take Ellis to get a paint protector, would you? What if the price was Thornton and Robinson? (I can see a Thornton Jennings backcourt working for the Bucks.)

Bucks are kinda winning, in fact are tied for their division lead (albeit a pathetic divisiion). I am not at all sure they are really in a hurry to blow anything up at the moment.

 

[SacTownKid]

Make a run at Varajao with one of two deals, slightly overpaying in reality and really overpaying in reality. He's a solid pro regardless.

Deal 1:

Reduced protection on that 1st rounder + Jason Thompson + IT

Deal 2:

Reduced protection on that 1st rounder + Thomas Robinson + IT or Jimmer

Might even consider dropping the protection if need be, this draft is going to blow.

 

[Hadlowe]

Bucks are kinda winning, in fact are tied for their division lead (albeit a pathetic divisiion). I am not at all sure they are really in a hurry to blow anything up at the moment.

The problem is that both Ellis and Jennings are up for big contracts at the end of the season. Conventional wisdom, for whatever that's worth, says they can only retain one, so the other needs to go before deadline to bring back some talent.

Same deal with Utah, but Millsap is an older T-Rob, and Jefferson is a slower Cousins, so I'm not eager to make a deal on either of them.

 

[Bricklayer]

The problem is that both Ellis and Jennings are up for big contracts at the end of the season. Conventional wisdom, for whatever that's worth, says they can only retain one, so the other needs to go before deadline to bring back some talent.

Same deal with Utah, but Millsap is an older T-Rob, and Jefferson is a slower Cousins, so I'm not eager to make a deal on either of them.

Just glancing at theis salary structure they're fine for next year. Ellis is already earning $11mil per. He won't earn much more than that next time if at all, so its not going to add anything. And they only have $40mil committed, and Jennings is restricted.

 

[KingMilz]

From Realgm.com

Pau Gasol will sit indefinitely due to tendinitis in both knees, but sources say it is not because a trade is in the works by the Los Angeles Lakers.

But a source said that Mitch Kupchak recently spoke with Gasol's representatives that the Lakers would explore trade possibilities if he cannot adjust to Mike D'Antoni's system.