Raps thinking about trading their #5 pick..

[Kings113]

The Star - Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo, in a telephone interview with the Star yesterday, said there could be players in the draft to help put Toronto on the road to contention. "But we could use our pick to leverage a deal to get veteran help right away," he said.

"There's no shortage of good, young talent" on the Raptors' roster, he said. "Another young guy with no experience may not be the best thing for this team."

Mike James is one veteran who may not be back with the club next season.

"We'll have to look at ways to cover that hole (in the roster) if it becomes a hole," Colangelo said.

"You can certainly look at the point guard spot and say, `that's a need' for Toronto.

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http://www.nbadraft.net/# - Have the #5 pick.

KT or Bonzi for the lottery pick (w/ another piece or two of course)? I'm not so sure yet.

 

[nbrans]

It would take more than KT or Bonzi to get the #5 pick. Now, Bibby for the #5 pick? Hmm... I'd be tempted, but ultimately I don't think it's a risk that the team wouldn't take. There's going to be huge bust potential in this draft, and there doesn't appear to be a player in the draft who is going to contribute big immediately.

 

[SacKings4Life21]

Ya i was thinking bibby... but that would suck if it was a bust. We dont have a backup so not probobly a good idea for us.. unless we involved another team. I would like andre miller as our PG but mike does have the history and fan love... I want that #5 though

 

[Kings113]

It would take more than KT or Bonzi to get the #5 pick. Now, Bibby for the #5 pick? Hmm... I'd be tempted, but ultimately I don't think it's a risk that the team wouldn't take. There's going to be huge bust potential in this draft, and there doesn't appear to be a player in the draft who is going to contribute big immediately.

Well, like I said, wasn't so sure.

 

[BMiller52]

Reef+Our pick for their pick+Mike James S&Ted? If they don't want another PF, what if we traded Brad for their pick+Mike James S&Ted and a young player? I'd only do it if they finished top 3 in the lottery though because I want Aldridge or Tyrus Thomas.

 

[Jechtsphere]

You don't trade Bibby unless you know what your getting, you don't know what your getting with a rokkie most of the time.

 

[Bricklayer]

They don't need Reef (Bosh/Villanueva). And unfortunately the players they could actually use off our team -- Mike, Brad, Ron -- are worth considerably more to us than a shaky #5 pick. Heck, have to see who is available at that pick of course, but I would think the raps would be excited to get their hands on Kevin as a young starting OG for them, but I am not at all sure I would even trade that for that pick wihtout knowing more. I like the idea of getting a high pick, but when you have a young player in hand...well, somebody interesting would have to sitting there.

 

[SacKings4Life21]

Ya I love the top Pick idea as well. I think that T Thomas would fall to 5th. Or Horford, or Noah. Remember Aldridge? and Glen davis? Not to mention morrison, Farmar, mhab a moute from ucla? all these players might be availible at the top 5. If we could try to grab that pick, man it would be steller. But what do we really have? I dont want to give up brad or ron. And mike would just be sad to see go for a un known player. Plus we need to get a solid PG. MAn it seems like we just dont have the peices to move, unless we sign and trade bonzi... that would be cool

 

[Kings113]

A Moute isn't coming out yet, Glen Davis isn't also, and neither is Farmar. Horford/Noah are question marks.

 

[BMiller52]

Glen Davis will be lucky to be a first rounder and Mbah A Moute(think that's his name...)+Farmar aren't declaring.


I only want Aldridge or Ty Thomas.

 

[SacKings4Life21]

I know, Well things change. They could declare. Im saying they are talent, that could be an option

 

[Fillmoe]

colangelo is smart... we dont have the pieces he wants... unless we give up miller... which i doubt we will do

 

[MrBiggs]

I forgot that they have an intelligent GM over there now.

 

[SacTownKid]

I think we are in the same boat as them. I don't see us going out and trying to get young players to put around the core of our team. Don't need the #5.

 

[Kings113]

We do need a young big man though. We can get one where we'll be though..

 

[Bricklayer]

We do need a young big man though. We can get one where we'll be though..

I doubt that. We can get the same mid-round gamble everybody else gets. We don't need a young big man. We need a young IMPACT big man. Can you get one at #16? Maybe. Anything's possible. But historically the list of bigs picked that late who go on to be anything more than bench jockies or platoon players is very very short.

 

[nbrans]

I doubt that. We can get the same mid-round gamble everybody else gets. We don't need a young big man. We need a young IMPACT big man. Can you get one at #16? Maybe. Anything's possible. But historically the list of bigs picked that late who go on to be anything more than bench jockies or platoon players is very very short.

I agree. Assuming they enter the draft, here are the top 5 big men. At least one of them will be available at 5:

Tyrus Thomas
Joakim Noah
LaMarcus Aldridge
Andrea Bargnani
Josh McRoberts

Given that Morrison and Gay could go in the top 5, there's a really good chance that Aldridge, Bargnani and McRoberts will slip to 5.

At 16? Hmm... Maybe Patrick O'Bryant will slip, he's a project. I know kings113 is excited about the UConn guys, I'm definitely not. And after that it's just Brad Miller wannabe 6'11" plodders like Aaron Gray and Pittsnogle.

The difference between 5 and 16 is huge. Is it huge enough to trade Bibby? I doubt it, but if LaMarcus Aldridge was sitting there at 5 I'd be pretty tempted.

P.S. There's also a good chance the Raptors could get a top 3 pick in the lottery. If that's the case and it means getting Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah I'd trade Bibby.

 

[Kings113]

I doubt that. We can get the same mid-round gamble everybody else gets. We don't need a young big man. We need a young IMPACT big man. Can you get one at #16? Maybe. Anything's possible. But historically the list of bigs picked that late who go on to be anything more than bench jockies or platoon players is very very short.

Well, that is different then.Not sure if we actually get in on this Raps thing though.

I agree. Assuming they enter the draft, here are the top 5 big men. At least one of them will be available at 5:



Tyrus Thomas

Joakim Noah

LaMarcus Aldridge

Andrea Bargnani

Josh McRoberts



Given that Morrison and Gay could go in the top 5, there's a really good chance that Aldridge, Bargnani and McRoberts will slip to 5.



At 16? Hmm... Maybe Patrick O'Bryant will slip, he's a project. I know kings113 is excited about the UConn guys, I'm definitely not. And after that it's just Brad Miller wannabe 6'11" plodders like Aaron Gray and Pittsnogle.



The difference between 5 and 16 is huge. Is it huge enough to trade Bibby? I doubt it, but if LaMarcus Aldridge was sitting there at 5 I'd be pretty tempted.



P.S. There's also a good chance the Raptors could get a top 3 pick in the lottery. If that's the case and it means getting Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah I'd trade Bibby.

I like Armstrong, and Boone I've gone away from a bit because of the recent happenings. Not definite if Boone will even enter yet. Hence why he's moved down, and why I moved him down. Shelden Williams I still like, but we'd probably be out of position to get him. Wouldn't say I'm excited really, but being realistic, and considering I put that in my signature last month, before this came up.

Don't care for Pittsnogle or Gray, from what I've gathered. Also, I think Horford could be available in the Kings area. McRoberts coming out would be quite a surprise to me, I see him staying.

 

[Packt]

I wouldn't trade Bibby, but I would trade Brad or Martin, depending on who declares and where the pick is at.

To trade Bibby, you'd want a sure thing back, someone you can trade later on if it doesn't work. I don't think the players in this draft are worth that gamble.

 

[FrenchCanadianKING]

This year's draft is very weak and there is no such thing as players who will for sure not be busts. Personally, I wouldn't trade Ron, Mike or Brad for the 1st overall pick, let alone the 5th...

Maybe some other year though... If the prospects are more attractive.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

This year's draft is very weak and there is no such thing as players who will for sure not be busts. Personally, I wouldn't trade Ron, Mike or Brad for the 1st overall pick, let alone the 5th...

Maybe some other year though... If the prospects are more attractive.

i agree w/ u brutha! trade our pick + reef to move up to the 5th spot? HELL YES!!! =)

 

[SacKings4Life21]

i wish we could dish kenny for the pick.... sad because noone wants kenny

 

[SacKings4Life21]

What about a sign and trade with Bonzi to the raps plus our pick for thier pick... we might be able to grab aldridge or thomas with that move

 

[BMiller52]

Brad+Our pick for their pick+filler.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

what the... brad+pick for their pick and filler? that #5 pick better be guaranteed to be a good kid otherwise we just traded a valuable asset. skilled 7 footers aren't readily available like swingmen.

 

[BMiller52]

Well actually I'd only do that depending on what pick they got in the lottery. Like if they got the 2nd or 3rd pick and we had a shot at Aldridge/Thomas.