Race to the Bottom thread

Dallas tanking hard. Indiana wins. We are tied in the wins column but they are 1 ahead in the all important loss column.
 
let’s say in this hypothetical that the Kings land Kuminga and they don’t find landing spots for the other vets.

Russ Dennis
Lavine Nique
Keegan Deebo
Kuminga PA
Sabonis Max

that team could potentially win close to half their games after the deadline when the schedule eases up. 32 games after January. Now if Sabonis ends up being out a lot longer that changes things.
 
iowamcnabb said:
let’s say in this hypothetical that the Kings land Kuminga and they don’t find landing spots for the other vets.

Russ Dennis
Lavine Nique
Keegan Deebo
Kuminga PA
Sabonis Max

that team could potentially win close to half their games after the deadline when the schedule eases up. 32 games after January. Now if Sabonis ends up being out a lot longer that changes things.
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How do we land Kuminga without trading someone bigger. Salaries don’t work.
 
iowamcnabb said:
let’s say in this hypothetical that the Kings land Kuminga and they don’t find landing spots for the other vets.

Russ Dennis
Lavine Nique
Keegan Deebo
Kuminga PA
Sabonis Max

that team could potentially win close to half their games after the deadline when the schedule eases up. 32 games after January. Now if Sabonis ends up being out a lot longer that changes things.
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That lineup is garbage zero chance they go .500 after the break but I guess people are gonna talk themselves into thinking Kuminga is a good player
 
The_Jamal said:
Indy wins are very good for us. Dallas is 5.5 up in the W column. They may as well be 500, they're not really a concern anymore.
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I think that AD is out for the year though? I doubt we pick up 6 wins on them but they are probably not going to win a lot. If Keegan and Domas come back and we start playing teams that check out after the trade deadline that's always where we tend to move up in the standings and down in the draft odds. The only times I remember us getting worse after the deadline lately were after we traded Cousins and after we traded for Domas (but nearly immediately shut both him and Fox down).
 
I'm not in camp Kuminga at what the summer rate was, but the winter rate has me considering the opportunity to kick the tires.

Yeah, it will impact wins, but mostly because it may shuffle out some vets for young guys who really aren't that bad and can impact the game on both ends.

Ellis
LaVine
Murray
Kuminga
Sabonis

Might not be a bottom 5 team.

I guess it depends on how the dominoes fall, and who else is moved.
 
NewArena said:
Kuminga isn't a bad player either. No one can know what he is if he keeps getting yanked out of games after 2-3 mistakes
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The issue is it's been 4 years. The mistakes this season have been of the in between the ears/IQ variety. Maybe a clean slate would help but this season without question there has been a reason he's getting yanked.
 
sactowndog said:
Kuminga’s new salary means it would need to be Deebo to make it work
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You've got that backwards, Monk+Carter is too *much* for GS to take back. Monk for Kuminga straight up actually works. The problem for the Warriors is that if they take back a single dollar more than they send out, they get forced to be under the first apron, and they're already past that.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
You've got that backwards, Monk+Carter is too *much* for GS to take back. Monk for Kuminga straight up actually works. The problem for the Warriors is that if they take back a single dollar more than they send out, they get forced to be under the first apron, and they're already past that.
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But we'd need to clear some space without becoming tax payers right? So McBuckets?
 
pdxKingsFan said:
But we'd need to clear some space without becoming tax payers right? So McBuckets?
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Yes, he could squeeze in.

At this point I am not focusing too heavily on the tax level. I'm sure we want to stay under it, but there are likely a lot of moving parts here before the deadline, so even if a Kuminga deal moved us over the line its very possible another deal in the works would slip us back under.
 
SacTownKid said:
The issue is it's been 4 years. The mistakes this season have been of the in between the ears/IQ variety. Maybe a clean slate would help but this season without question there has been a reason he's getting yanked.
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Maybe, but it’s strange when Kerr is giving guys like Melton a long leash when that guy can’t guard anyone right now. It’s more personal than anything Kuminga gets yanked IMO. Many warrior fans think so as well.
 
sactowndog said:
Well I hope we have a great trade in the works to justify Malik, Deebo and Westbrook going on a mini winning streak.

Dallas is coming hard and I have zero faith the Kings won’t F this up.
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Just get ready, the Kings might be in a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario regardless. If the Kings stand pat then there's proven players that are going to play for themselves and dial in for at least a little while once they know they're stuck here. We're starting to see it now. DeRozan and Monk are listening. If they do clean house the young guys will have something to prove and probably play more team oriented basketball. I still think if going by history this looks like a 6-8 in the draft type team unless they get lucky again. The years the Kings kind of prepped for high picks they came in a lot more stripped down. Honestly if they lose the extent they'll probably need to it means the locker room is in a catastrophic state which will bleed over into next season.
 
sactowndog said:
Well I hope we have a great trade in the works to justify Malik, Deebo and Westbrook going on a mini winning streak.

Dallas is coming hard and I have zero faith the Kings won’t F this up.
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Worst record guarantees nothing though. That seems to always be the team that falls to 4 or 5
 
NewArena said:
Worst record guarantees nothing though. That seems to always be the team that falls to 4 or 5
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We discuss this periodically. I've included the table below in case anyone hasn't seen it in a while.

Based on the odds, the average pick location for the #1 seed is 3.7 and you have pretty much an equal chance of picking 5th as 1st-4th combined. The first seed has a better chance of picking 4th or 5th than 1st-3rd. The first 4 spots are all pretty much identical in estimated pick location (picking 4th, rounded).

It just gets slightly progressively worse as you progress through the seedings.

Obviously, the only real benefit in the lower seeds is the cap on how far you can drop.

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Warhawk said:
We discuss this periodically. I've included the table below in case anyone hasn't seen it in a while.

Based on the odds, the average pick location for the #1 seed is 3.7 and you have pretty much an equal chance of picking 5th as 1st-4th combined. The first seed has a better chance of picking 4th or 5th than 1st-3rd. The first 4 spots are all pretty much identical in estimated pick location (picking 4th, rounded).

It just gets slightly progressively worse as you progress through the seedings.

Obviously, the only real benefit in the lower seeds is the cap on how far you can drop.

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The drop in odds from 3-4 is about half to the drop from 4 to 5. But it is still a drop.
 
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