Race to the Bottom thread

gunks said:
Yeah this is the silver lining to us (likely) dropping out of the top 4. All of Perry's rookies look like keepers.

Honestly, I'd rather have Perry at 10 over our past 3 GMs with a top 3 pick. Hell, I'd rather have Perry at 10 than Vlade with #1, because lord knows he'd find a way to **** that up.
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You still have the same owner and if I’m Perry and the Kings don’t get a top 3 pick, I quit before Vivek ruins my reputation like he did Monte’s.
 
sactowndog said:
You can’t assume that when we are playing against teams that don’t want to win. It’s like assuming summer league guarantees success and we have seen that before.

Sadly this team will likely have the 5th or 6th seed going into the lottery. Time to start looking at Ament if he falls that far.
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Do you REALLY think that we're going to gain 3.5 games on Utah or 5 games on New Orleans, or maybe even 5.5 games over Dallas, over our final 14 games of the season?
 
sactowndog said:
You can’t assume that when we are playing against teams that don’t want to win. It’s like assuming summer league guarantees success and we have seen that before.

Sadly this team will likely have the 5th or 6th seed going into the lottery. Time to start looking at Ament if he falls that far.
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I mean, isn't tier 2 supposed to go all the way to 10?

Once you stop hoping for AJ or whoever, you can start coping for an allstar at 10! 😂

I agree with you on Vivek though. Maybe that's why I'm so zen about it. Even if we land a cornerstone player this draft, history tells us this franchise won't know how to capitalize and build a winner around them.
 
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sactowndog said:
Do you doubt me now?
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I mean, on the one hand it's not too impressive to predict that the franchise that does the same dumb things in the exact same dumb way every season for the past 13 years will continue to do the exact same dumb things THIS season.

On the other hand Perry really had me going with all the rebuilding talk. So I'll tip my hat to you good sir for seeing through it.

As old old adage goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me over and over again for over a decade... I must be a Kings fan"
 
ockingsfan said:
If there was ever a year to do it, after all the bad publicity the NBA is getting from everyone tanking. We can only hope that the NBA will finally "reward" the Kings for NOT blatantly Tanking like everyone else and give us a top 3 pick!
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Kings fans don't deserve it but lets be honest, the Kings totally deserve what they get. Can't help someone that doesn't want it or that doesn't even know they need it, haha.
 
White_Chocolate said:
I think this mainly on Vivek and Doug. Not moving the vets didn’t help though
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Nope. This is on Scott Perry as the GM.

Doug's job is to win with who he can play. Vivek's job is to sign the paychecks. It is up to Scott to put on those big boy pants and lay down the vision for the organization to his stakeholders that short term pain can lead to long term gain and ensure all are on the same page. Using the Kings as a halfway house to those old and nearly out of the league vets is a shame.
 
Folsomkingsfan said:
Vlade cost us Luka. Christie cost us Boozer, Dybantsa, or Peterson. What generational prospect is Mike Bibby going to cost us in 5 years?
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if you mean to suggest that mike bibby will be coaching (or "gm-ing") the kings, i don't think that is going to happen.

i mean, i'm all for second (and third) chances for people, but there has to be SOME kind of a "limit" - like, "you can present yourself as a rehabilitated ex-athlete, but you have still forfeited the right to access ALL occupations (that other ex-athletes with stellar past histories might aspire to") - or something like that.

there was a slight discussion (for the very very first time) on the luka/vlade subject which was just starting to get interesting when it was ordained that it should not continue, which was too bad, because it revealed a bit about vlade's defenders.
 
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