Race to the Bottom thread

you're a year off on berry though (whose father is still alive). ricky took his own life during the offseason preceding the 1989-90 season after winning ROY (over 40% shooting threes) after the 88-89 season.

Yeah, I remembered that he passed in 1989, just forgot that it was before the prior season. Regardless, the point still stands. The loss of Berry was a much tougher loss than any of the 1990 failed draft picks.

Also, wrt Lionel Simmons, his 4-year college career had nothing to do with his short NBA career. Like I said, he developed a chronic knee issue.
 
Yeah, I remembered that he passed in 1989, just forgot that it was before the prior season. Regardless, the point still stands. The loss of Berry was a much tougher loss than any of the 1990 failed draft picks.

Also, wrt Lionel Simmons, his 4-year college career had nothing to do with his short NBA career. Like I said, he developed a chronic knee issue.

just for the purposes of "discussion", wouldn't you agree that an extra four (as opposed to one) year(s) of "college basketball" puts a certain amount of strain on the body (especially "joints") which might lead to a shorter "pro" career (than if they had only played one year of college)?

specifically, simmons played four years of college, then four years as a pro (starter - major minutes) before he didn't play much in his last three years as his knee got worse.

is it possible that he might have (in today's world) played ONE year of college, then seven (or more?) years as a pro before his knee problems began?

because THAT would be where his four year college career had SOMETHING to do with his short NBA career.
 
3 game winning streak, would not be good......they are in danger of going into 4th place from bottom soon, and possible 8th pick......better get their "Lin" on now. Do you want a great starter, or a great role player.......
I just want a great player, period. Starter or role player, I don't really care. Just find me someone great.
 
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3 game winning streak, would not be good......they are in danger of going into 4th place from bottom soon, and possible 8th pick......better get their "Lin" on now. Do you want a great starter, or a great role player.......

Top tier is 2-3 guys depending on who you ask, followed by another 5-8 guys who could potentially be future all stars. Obviously we want to get one of the elite elite prospects, but it's a deep draft.

Perry went into the '25 draft with no 1st round draft pick, and came out of it with Niq, Max, and future defensive superstar Cardwell. I like our chances even if we drop to 8.

Still rooting for lins though, don't get me wrong haha
 
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