Projecting the first 5 picks:

bajaden

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#1
I spent the last few days reading the local newspapers of each team in the top five as well as looking at their rosters. Using only the players they have under contract, and those I feel they'll make every effort to resign (example, Alonzo Gee of the Cav's), I've come up with my best guess as to which players I think each team will choose.

1. Hornets: Anthony Davis. I'm not even going to explain my reasons. Everyone knows they'll pick Davis, so no reasoning is necessary.

2. Bobcats: Michael Gilchrist. The Cats dont' need a PG with Kemba Walker and D. J. Augustin there. They don't need a PF with Tyrus Thomas and Biyombo. Their not strong at SG, but have adequate players to fill the position. Their biggest need is at center, and SF. Obviously, they could take Drummond here. But since Gilchrist is the safer pick, and the fact that Jordan has been burn't once already taking a big man, I think Gilchrist is the pick.

3. Wizards: Bradley Beal. The Wiz are loaded with Bigs including Nene, Blatche, Vesely, Seraphin, and Booker. So I can't see them taking either Drummond or Robinson. They have Wall at PG, and Mack as the backup. Their thin at SF with Chris Singleton, and Reggie Lewis big contract for another year. The only SG they have on the team is Jordan Crawford, and I think they see him as a bench player. So I think Beal is the pick, with an outside shot of it being Harrison Barnes.

4. Cav's: Drummond. The Cav's desparately need a center, and at this point, Drummond is the only center/PF worth a 4th round pick. Its possible they could trade down, or go for another need at SF and take Harrison Barnes. What they don't need is a PF with Varejao and Tristan Thompson filling that role. They don't need a PG with Kyrie Irving and Daniel Gibson. They also have a huge hole at SG, so its possible they look at Jemery Lamb, who I read they like. This is the hardest team to predict, because they have so many needs. I know they would love to have Beal, and if the Wiz take Barnes, then I would expect the Cav's to take Beal instead of Drummond.

Kings: If it goes as I suspect it will, that would mean that Thomas Robinson would almost be a sure bet to be there at 5. My guess is that we'll have a choice between Robinson and Drummond, or Robinson and Barnes. If Robinson and Barnes is the choice, and Robinson comes in at 6'9" at the combine, then I think they take Robinson. We need help in the PF dept, especially with JT being a restricted freeagent and no guarantee of returning. If the choice is between Robinson and Drummond, I'm not sure what Petrie will do. Both players have a big upside. Both are elite athlete's. One we know has a fire in his belly (Robinson), and the other we know has the potential to be an elite shotblocker. Very tough choice. If Robinson is 6'9" or over, I'm taking Robinson. Not sure what the Kings will do.
 
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Very plausible. So many wildcard's in this draft between players and the teams selecting them. Bobcats should pick MKG, but history suggests they'll go for size + talent. I can easily see Drummond going here. Just because MJ picked Kwame #1, doesn't mean he won't go there again.

Also, seems like every draft there are risers and guys who you think will be cemented in the top 5 - last year saw Tristan Thompson rise, Brandon Knight fall - that seems impossible to actually happen. I still don't get the Beal top 5 hype, and I'm sure I'll be proven wrong if he's picked top 5.

I have a sneaking suspicion Barnes will go top 4, and be the guy who rises. What I'm getting at in a very long winded way is that I could easily see MKG falling to the Kings pick. ;)
 
#3
...and Thomas Robinson would be a huge bonus at pick #5. Kings just need to upgrade their top 7-8 players, and he'd definitely do that.
 
#4
I bet a number of teams are going to bid hard for that #2 pick. I can see Jordan thinking he could grab a starter from another team and still get his big man project in later picks.
 

bajaden

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#5
I bet a number of teams are going to bid hard for that #2 pick. I can see Jordan thinking he could grab a starter from another team and still get his big man project in later picks.
I think thats highly possible. They need a center, but the only real SF they have on the team is Maggette, who is in the last year of his contract, and I'm sure they'd love to trade him, or amnesty him. So their biggest need is at SF. They do have Diop at center which can get them by for a while. But I wouldn't be surprised if they opt for Drummond.
 
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If we ended up with Thomas Robinson at 5 on draft night, I'd be a very happy camper. He's going to be a very good player. And at this point in time (maybe subject to change), I'm taking him over Drummond. Less chance of busting, and even though Drummond could bring more of what we need, I think he's far less likely to reach his potential than Drummond.
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
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#7
On the one hand I can see the Cavs going for upside with their pick. Other than Irving their rotation is wide open. But I hesitate to slot Drummond there because they just picked up Tristan Thompson last year with the 4th pick and he projects as a similar high-upside athlete with limited offensive skills right now but great defensive instincts. Thompson didn't have a great rookie season and they can potentially play them both together, but that's asking a lot of your fanbase to be patient with two front-court players who might take 3 or 4 years to develop (see for example Thompson/Hawes).

Of course there's a similar problem with Robinson and Thompson playing the same position, but at least Robinson is NBA ready. If I had to bet on it, I think Washington goes Beal all the way and Cleveland takes a SF but I still don't know what Charlotte is going to do. I can see them taking any of these guys. The word last season before the draft is that Biyombo had a great workout in Charlotte and they ended up trading up for him. I expect we'll have a pretty good idea who they like before the draft, but I couldn't say right now.
 

bajaden

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#9
On the one hand I can see the Cavs going for upside with their pick. Other than Irving their rotation is wide open. But I hesitate to slot Drummond there because they just picked up Tristan Thompson last year with the 4th pick and he projects as a similar high-upside athlete with limited offensive skills right now but great defensive instincts. Thompson didn't have a great rookie season and they can potentially play them both together, but that's asking a lot of your fanbase to be patient with two front-court players who might take 3 or 4 years to develop (see for example Thompson/Hawes).

Of course there's a similar problem with Robinson and Thompson playing the same position, but at least Robinson is NBA ready. If I had to bet on it, I think Washington goes Beal all the way and Cleveland takes a SF but I still don't know what Charlotte is going to do. I can see them taking any of these guys. The word last season before the draft is that Biyombo had a great workout in Charlotte and they ended up trading up for him. I expect we'll have a pretty good idea who they like before the draft, but I couldn't say right now.
Don't forget the Cav's also have Varejao as well as Thompson. So I don't see them going after Robinson. As far as Thompson and Robinson playing the same postion, just about every team has a backup for every position. At present, if we resign Thompson, he's the only PF on the team. So having Thompson and Robinson, is a plus, not a negative. You always have a quality PF on the floor that can rebound.

As far as the Bobcats go, they don't have a SF on the team other than Maggette, who is over the hill and overpaid as well. SF is their greatest need, and MKG will be sitting right in front of them. I would think the two positions they don't need to fill is PF and PG. Of course we are talking about Jordan here, so who knows?
 
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I spent the last few days reading the local newspapers of each team in the top five as well as looking at their rosters. Using only the players they have under contract, and those I feel they'll make every effort to resign (example, Alonzo Gee of the Cav's), I've come up with my best guess as to which players I think each team will choose.

1. Hornets: Anthony Davis. I'm not even going to explain my reasons. Everyone knows they'll pick Davis, so no reasoning is necessary.

2. Bobcats: Michael Gilchrist. The Cats dont' need a PG with Kemba Walker and D. J. Augustin there. They don't need a PF with Tyrus Thomas and Biyombo. Their not strong at SG, but have adequate players to fill the position. Their biggest need is at center, and SF. Obviously, they could take Drummond here. But since Gilchrist is the safer pick, and the fact that Jordan has been burn't once already taking a big man, I think Gilchrist is the pick.

3. Wizards: Bradley Beal. The Wiz are loaded with Bigs including Nene, Blatche, Vesely, Seraphin, and Booker. So I can't see them taking either Drummond or Robinson. They have Wall at PG, and Mack as the backup. Their thin at SF with Chris Singleton, and Reggie Lewis big contract for another year. The only SG they have on the team is Jordan Crawford, and I think they see him as a bench player. So I think Beal is the pick, with an outside shot of it being Harrison Barnes.

4. Cav's: Drummond. The Cav's desparately need a center, and at this point, Drummond is the only center/PF worth a 4th round pick. Its possible they could trade down, or go for another need at SF and take Harrison Barnes. What they don't need is a PF with Varejao and Tristan Thompson filling that role. They don't need a PG with Kyrie Irving and Daniel Gibson. They also have a huge hole at SG, so its possible they look at Jemery Lamb, who I read they like. This is the hardest team to predict, because they have so many needs. I know they would love to have Beal, and if the Wiz take Barnes, then I would expect the Cav's to take Beal instead of Drummond.

Kings: If it goes as I suspect it will, that would mean that Thomas Robinson would almost be a sure bet to be there at 5. My guess is that we'll have a choice between Robinson and Drummond, or Robinson and Barnes. If Robinson and Barnes is the choice, and Robinson comes in at 6'9" at the combine, then I think they take Robinson. We need help in the PF dept, especially with JT being a restricted freeagent and no guarantee of returning. If the choice is between Robinson and Drummond, I'm not sure what Petrie will do. Both players have a big upside. Both are elite athlete's. One we know has a fire in his belly (Robinson), and the other we know has the potential to be an elite shotblocker. Very tough choice. If Robinson is 6'9" or over, I'm taking Robinson. Not sure what the Kings will do.
I agree with everything you said but I see the Cavs taking Barnes at #4. I know it doesn't mean much but Barnes and Irving are best of friends and have the same agent. Cav's GM Chris Grant didn't gamble last year on a Jonas Valanciunas or Jan Vesley and took the safe pick in Thompson(besides the obvious No 1 in Irving). I just can't see him gambling on a Drummond who has bust written all over him. They have 4 of the top 34 picks and in a draft this deep, they could get better in a hurry if they make the right picks.
 
#12
I agree with everything you said but I see the Cavs taking Barnes at #4. I know it doesn't mean much but Barnes and Irving are best of friends and have the same agent. Cav's GM Chris Grant didn't gamble last year on a Jonas Valanciunas or Jan Vesley and took the safe pick in Thompson(besides the obvious No 1 in Irving). I just can't see him gambling on a Drummond who has bust written all over him. They have 4 of the top 34 picks and in a draft this deep, they could get better in a hurry if they make the right picks.
I agree with this. I see them taking Barnes at #4 and grabbing a big man with #24 whether it be Leonard, Moultrie, Melo, or Ezeli and then possibly taking Doron Lamb at #33?

Irving
Lamb
Barnes
Thompson
Melo

That's a pretty talented and young nucleus to build around. Irving would have some nice perimeter shooters to dish out too. That's for sure.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#13
I agree with everything you said but I see the Cavs taking Barnes at #4. I know it doesn't mean much but Barnes and Irving are best of friends and have the same agent. Cav's GM Chris Grant didn't gamble last year on a Jonas Valanciunas or Jan Vesley and took the safe pick in Thompson(besides the obvious No 1 in Irving). I just can't see him gambling on a Drummond who has bust written all over him. They have 4 of the top 34 picks and in a draft this deep, they could get better in a hurry if they make the right picks.
I agree they could take Barnes. Basicly they want someone that can shoot the ball from the perimeter, and Barnes would fit that bill. I'm not sure where you coming up with 4 picks in the top 34 though. They have the 4th pick in the first round, and the 3rd and 4th picks in the second round. Am I missing something?

Edit: Never mind, I went back and looked and saw they have the 24th pick in the first round as well.. My bad!
 
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2. Bobcats: Michael Gilchrist. The Cats dont' need a PG with Kemba Walker and D. J. Augustin there. They don't need a PF with Tyrus Thomas and Biyombo. Their not strong at SG, but have adequate players to fill the position. Their biggest need is at center, and SF. Obviously, they could take Drummond here. But since Gilchrist is the safer pick, and the fact that Jordan has been burn't once already taking a big man, I think Gilchrist is the pick.
And small forward cough Morrison cough.
 
#17
Yeah I just saw this on RealGM. If this is true, then Robinson, Beal, or MKG will be available at 5. I like it.
I have this wierd feeling that MKG will slip too us. Bobcats need a Big that can score effeciently. I can see them most likely taking Robinson or possibly Drummond. T.Thomas,Biyombo,Diop,Mullens.. wont cut it for them in the future.

1.NOH-Davis,2. Cats- Robinson, 3.Wizards- Beal, 4.Cavs- Barnes, 5.Kings-MKG

I would be ecstatic too pick up MKG. Reke and MKG would make a crazy defensive pairing. 3 Point shooting might be lacking in our starting 5 if both of them started though.
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
#18
1: Davis (duh)
2: Robinson - I think the Lolcats might see some 20/10 potential in this guy, the Robinson/Biyombo (as a 5) frontcourt pairing looks good on paper as well.
3: Drummond - Wiz take the risk based on the homerun (more like grandslam) potential of the guy if he works out. He'll have time to grow behind Nene. Rumors have it that the Wizards are trying to unload Blatche (maybe get that SF they need through trade). Vesely is a 3.
4: Barnes - based on that story that just came out. Could be a smokescreen. I can see them taking Beal as well. Irving/Beal would be a nasty backcourt.
5: MKG - fell to us because he projects to be more of a roleplayer than a star. We get our dream 3 who doesnt demand shots, plays mean D, and does all the little things that helps a team win!


I'd say I like our chances of actually getting MKG more and more as draft day nears. But even if he doesnt fall to us, another great player will. I'm pretty psyched we didnt drop for once.
 
#19
This is my guess:

1 Hornets: Davis - of course
2 Bobcats: Barnes - I see a surprise pick here. Barnes is a local guy, someone who can contribute right now, he could go for 18 ppg from the beginning
3 Wizards: Beal - I guess they want a safe pick. They need outside shooting, Bradley can provide it.
4 Cavs: Kidd-Gilchrist - the Cavs can't miss on him. Probabily the best player available, and they also need help at the SF
5 Kings: if we keep the pick: Drummond - I don't know why, but after the combine I believe Drummond will earn some respect, while I see Robinson falling back. His lack of size may hurt him. If we trade down, I think we'll grab Terrence Jones. It's perfectly fine with me, I would see if Toronto is willing to be our trade partner. They could use the 5th to draft Robinson, who could be a good fit next to Valanciunas. Then they will try to trade Bargnani.
 
#21
The Barnes to Cavs news that broke today is awesome. Just great stuff. I now think there is a pretty good chance MKG falls to us. It really comes down to what the Bobcats do at #2. If they pick Robinson or Drummond (unlikely for Drummond) .. I think we have our guy.

I don't think the Wizards pass up Beal for MKG.

1. Davis
2. Robinson or Drummond
3. Beal
4. Barnes
5. MKG

This how it looks right now in my opinion. A lot of time left though. Like I said before .. largely comes down to how the bobcats pick. They could fall in love with MKG, but I think they want to find a star, and I'm not sure MKG is that. If they go Beal at #2, that opens up MKG to the Wizards, so I'm hoping they go after Robinson.
 
#22
I still don't think there's any way in hell that MKG falls to 5, I see it more as wishful thinking. However, I hope I'm wrong and will be thrilled if I am. That'd certainly be the ideal scenario for us.
 
#23
MKG is a star the same way Doug Christie was a star for us, he does all the things that don't always show up in the box score. I think if Beal impresses Washington and Robinson goes 2nd we got him.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#24
That photo in the other thread looms as a problem. If Robinson combines out at 6'7" or 6'7.5" he's not going to get taken #2.

Oh wait...it is Michael Jordan, maybe he will afterall. :p
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#26
It's a photo.... lol
Indeed. Normally I refuse to guess a player's height until I have actually met them, shook their hands, and had them stand back to back, but jeez, in this case I think I may have to go with the two guys standing right next to each other shoulder to shoulder the same distance from the camera.
 
#27
That photo in the other thread looms as a problem. If Robinson combines out at 6'7" or 6'7.5" he's not going to get taken #2.

Oh wait...it is Michael Jordan, maybe he will afterall. :p

Saw that picture and it's worrying. Still, I'll wait til the combine. I still think Robinson will be a very good player regardless of height (rich man's Faried), but yeah, still a negative if he only measures 6'8'' in shoes.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#28
The Barnes to Cavs news that broke today is awesome. Just great stuff. I now think there is a pretty good chance MKG falls to us. It really comes down to what the Bobcats do at #2. If they pick Robinson or Drummond (unlikely for Drummond) .. I think we have our guy.

I don't think the Wizards pass up Beal for MKG.

1. Davis
2. Robinson or Drummond
3. Beal
4. Barnes
5. MKG

This how it looks right now in my opinion. A lot of time left though. Like I said before .. largely comes down to how the bobcats pick. They could fall in love with MKG, but I think they want to find a star, and I'm not sure MKG is that. If they go Beal at #2, that opens up MKG to the Wizards, so I'm hoping they go after Robinson.
I hope your right. I'll believe it when I see it! The Bobcats are in dire need of a SF or a center. Why they would take Robinison is beyond me. They drafted Biyombo last year, and they have Tyrus Thomas signed to a 8.5 mil a year for three years. Robinson can't play center. So the obvious choices are Drummond and Gilchrist. But were talking Jordan here, so who knows.
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#29
I hope your right. I'll believe it when I see it! The Bobcats are in dire need of a SF or a center. Why they would take Robinison is beyond me. They drafted Biyombo last year, and they have Tyrus Thomas signed to a 8.5 mil a year for three years. Robinson can't play center. So the obvious choices are Drummond and Gilchrist. But were talking Jordan here, so who knows.
Some people think Biyombo is a better fit at C with his reach and skillset. But that's still an undersized lineup with Robinson. Measurements are going to be huge for him. I wouldn't think Tyrus Thomas factors in too much in their longterm planning. He's just the last big contract they couldn't move. The Bobcats have typically gone for defensive prospects in the past (aside from the misguided Morrison pick) so Kidd-Gilchrist is a strong possibility. Barnes too because of the UNC connection and their need for scorers. And I could also see them taking Beal to solidify their backcourt (other than a short stint with Jason Richardson, that franchise hasn't had a decent SG since they began). Drummond only goes there if he impresses in workouts but he's somewhat redundant with Biyombo as well.

I was initially thinking Robinson there because they need size and Drummond is a big risk with the second pick, but it could really be any of those guys right now. Barnes is probably going to interview well. So yeah...I still have no idea who goes #2. :D Maybe they trade down even?
 
#30
Assuming no trades in the top 4:

  1. New Orleans: Anthony Davis .. the only sure selection of this draft.
  2. Charlotte- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist .. Can Jordan afford to pass on arguably the BPA?
  3. Washington- Thomas Robinson .. Same logic as above.
  4. Cleveland- Harrison Barnes .. I firmly buy into the rumors that the Cavs covet him.
  5. Sacramento- Andre Drummond .. with Kidd-Gilchrist, Robinson, and Barnes off the board, I think the Kings trade out of this spot & someone else makes this selection


If the Kings trade down, I could see them considering any of the following: Henson, Zeller, PJ3, Terrence Jones
 
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