[Grades] Preseason Grades v. Lakers 10/10/2013

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Its preseason for us too around here, and longtime posters will remember that since these grades have always involved a healthy dose of scaling according to the talents of the each player being graded, the preseason has traditionally served as a time to calibrate the grading scales and establish a baseline against which to grade performances over the season.

Nonetheless for entertainment purposes, the quick and dirty preseason short grades.

Stats: 24min 18pts (7-9, 4-6, 0-0) 6reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Outlaw ( B+ ) -- got the surprise start as our rookie coach apparently wanted to get it out of his system to put out the very worst rebounding team in the NBA for a night. But Travis surprised and fared better out there than anyone not named Cousins. While it may leave Jerry Reynolds at a loss for tortured explanations, being back at his natural SF position had to help Outlaw as he looked comfortable out there for the first time in about 5 years. Being part of an organized offense may have helped too, as he wasn't doing his awful put the ball on the floor for two dribbles into a contested bricked midrange jumper thing. Instead he was catching and shooting and draining jumpers from all corners, bombing in four threes against a disorganized Lakers team that left him wide open for a couple of them. Gets the B+ here first because he's Travis Outlaw and his accumulated offenses against the sport of basketball and its fans for the last half decade can't be wiped out by one good preseason game. More tangibly, ironically he got back to his natural SF position only to end up matched up against Nick Young, who the Lakers may actually start at SF this year even though he's blatantly a SG. Result was that Travis was at a mobility disadvantage, and Young got free to bomb back the other way for a bunch of points of his own.

Stats: 22min 5pts (2-9, 1-2, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Patterson ( D ) -- missed the memo that everybody was going to have a good game tonight, and was maybe the one standout suck out of the entire rotation, which potentially could damage his hopes of emerging wiht that prized starting PF job to begin the season. Jason has looked good, and this was a chance to make an argument against the still missing Landry. Didn't happen. Instead was missing all his shots from the very beginning, and compounded his problems by getting lit up by Pau in the second. Since he was no help at all on the glass either, it really was an all around bagel on the whole start me coach! scale.

Stats: 26min 16pts (8-13, 0-0, 0-0) 12reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Cousins ( A- ) -- Cousins' impressive demeanor continued for a second straight game here, but this time the production came along to match. We'll cover the reason for the "-" here (and a thought about going B+) first: early on turned his head several times letting Kaman slip to the hoop behind him, and had several passing/ballhandling adventures that won't show up in the boxscore that he saved from becoming turnovers just on pure hustle and talent. But in general the defensive effort and awareness remain far above what he showed last season, and the handful of obvious errors aside he was engaged and in the right position. Was lighting up Kaman early with the jumper and some of those nifty drives that maybe only he of all the true centers can complete. came back in in the second as a rebounder, and dominated the glass for the next two quarters, and seemed to just do it easily. Were a lot of jumpers tonight, but they fell, and with only one out of control sequence inside he was efficient and just shy of dominant out there. His per36 pace BTW would have had him sitting at a cool 22pts 17rebs given the minutes, and notably he only committed a single foul so he could actually have played those 36min if we had needed it and the game mattered. Could get a feel for the offense this time out, and everybody, Cousins included, looked settled and calm. Had him running some of the old Vlade/Webber post passing sets with Jimmer trying to cut baseline for the dump pass over the top.

Stats: 21min 7pts (3-5, 1-1, 0-0) 1reb 3ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
Fredette ( C+ ) -- got off to the good start at SG and looked good in the early going as he knocked down 3 quick jumpers. But even while he was rolling it was a bit of a back and forth shootout with Jodie Meeks. When IT left briefly slid over to PG and made a nice little pass slipping it to Ben/M16 as he cut into the paint, but some of the normal problems emerged as the Lakers then double team trapped him resulting in the normal panicked pass turnover. Was not effective in his second half stint as the defensive woes reemerged and he got lit up. Did find himself in the passing lanes a couple of times though, and that was actually the factor that led me to go B- here rather than C+.

Stats: 23min 10pts (4-7, 0-1, 2-2) 0reb 9ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- I had to do a double take when I saw the boxscore with IT as I'm not sure where the 9 assists came from. Nonetheless this was the second game in a row where you could clearly see him trying to play it more as a pure PG, no doubt at the instructions of the coaches. The results in both games have been a little erratic, but nonetheless there have been results. Every once in a while here you could just feel him realize he hadn't gotten a shot up in a while and force up something off his own dribble. But those moments stood out precisely because most of the time he wasn't even looking at the hoop. That may actually be taking the concept a little too far for an offensive player like IT, but nonetheless there were no extended stretches locking his teammates out of the game. There were the sporadic dumb shots however, and late in the half he began throwing the ball wildly all over the court. Defensively we saw his size exploited considerably more often than it normally is, and some of that may be a defensive scheme that saw him getting switched onto guys twice his size.

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Bench
Stats: 29min 12pts (5-11, 2-4, 0-0) 5reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
McLemore ( B+ ) -- encouraging game, really both of them. What is notable here is to what degree Ben/M16 is being exactly as advertised, both good and bad. Showed good off ball movement again, immediately coming in and flashing toward the hoop to get hit by Jimmer. His movement looks random/impromptu, but I have to pay ore attention next time because its too sophisticated to be playground stuff and we must be setting him up off the ball. Showed that quick shooting motion repeatedly, getting off the ground going straight up and draining shots. Its encouraging that those included easy looking NBA threes, which was a range he really struggled at during summer league. The combination of the shooting and movement are a classic setup for some big nights against lazy defenders/bad teams which don't stick with him. Made more consistent use of his athleticism this time. Didn't always get something done, but was consistently flying about being a presence. Didn't look in any danger of ever dominating the game, but kept on popping up as a contributor. Downsides remains the ballhandling, where its just myriad. Traveling trying to make one on one moves. Unable to change direction in the open court so ran over a guy for a charge. Showing a tendency to throw big loopy moonball crosscourt passes that are probably not going to fly in the regular season, but has been getting away with them to date. Had rookie issues on defense, where the athleticism let him make plays, but he loses contact and angles on his man a lot. But right now looks more hopeful than our last two lottery picks. There are strict limitations, but they aren't size/athleticism oriented, and the skills he does have seem to be translating, and are the sort of things you can make use of in bursts even if he's not ready to start.

Stats: 16min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-0) 10reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( B ) -- only so much you can say here. Nothing much happened except that he really rebounded well this time out, blocking out and going after balls and dominating the taller Lakers frontline on the glass during his minutes. Defensively I guess he made things a little difficult, but there weren't many mano a mano stands. Got his solitary hoop as he should when a pass was lasered to him just below the rim and he turned and flipped it in.

Stats: 26min 8pts (4-8, 0-2, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Salmons ( B ) -- appeared to have had a rare forkectomy procedure before tipoff to remove the giant utensil impediment from his back, and looked 10 years younger in what was a pretty energetic (by Salmons standards) defense of his minutes/job. Looked pretty good on offense as he and McClemore seemed to just be quicker than their Lakers opponents off the bench. Was even active on the glass, which is a pretty amazing statements for one of the league's biggest weenies on the boards. Was beaten several times on defense and even for The Fish an 8pt night isn't going to net you any kind of A. Still though, he looked good out there, and was probably more effective than his numbers show.
 
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Ok so I guess we dont do grades for preseason games. But I think we need a post game analysis thread thats separate from the actual game thread. Since I dont do the grades i will call this ratings and do this on a 1-10 scale!

Cousins 9 - Has anyone else made the Vlad Divac/Cousins comparison yet? lol! I see flashes of Divac in Cousins sometimes. His unusual craftiness and skill set totally reminds me of Divac. Both guys basically played below the rim and aren't major shot blockers. Both can pass. HOWEVER Cousins has an attitude and body that if he can learn to channel it towards beating down the opponent in the paint, will have a much higher ceiling on offense and defense. Played a great all around game. showed why he wont stop shooting mid range shots by going 5/7 outside the paint. Euro stepped Pau at one point which was smooth. Was a presence on the boards. Played pretty good defense minus getting picked off bad once on a screen (which may not have been his fault). Kept his head and only had 1 foul. Sorta random thought....I really think a shot blocking center next to Cousins would eventually be devastating to other teams. (sigh) maybe one day... Very encouraging game from Big Cuz!

Ben McL 8- this guy is worth getting excited about. Maybe after he wins rookie of the year and we make a trade or two we will be seriously considered league wide as being playoff worthy going into next year. This guy did a much better job of not exposing his weaknesses ala dribbling. He did once get out of control and charge once but stuck to his strengths mostly. Nailing shots! plays good scrappy defense. Was crashing the boards well for a SG. If he can nail shots and play some defense I really dont see Thornton holding onto his starting job all season. In fact I'd be shocked if Ben takes off that Thornton isn't traded somehow. This guy along with Cousins could be rep'n the Kings in the All-star games soon. I believe!

ok so these are the 2 guys I care most about and that the team is being built around. so the rest of my post will be short.

Thomas 9- this is best case for Thomas. 9 ast 2 TO's. Did a better job not getting off his feet in the paint and throwing the ball away. no 3's but thats a fluke. I personally dont see him starting. especially if Thornton is starting. I think Thomas is the second coming of Bobby Jackson. 6th man at best but a awesome 6th man. He just looks for his own scoring too much.

JT 6- He looks so much more controlled and even dominate in the paint now. Really smashed into guys backing them down. Has a nice drop step that hes made in both games. Also looked a little crafty with a few almost and 1 type plays. JT is a totally SOLID above avg role guy. He has an extremely balanced game now.

Patterson 3- jeez... defense and boards are gonna be a problem. He is not the answer to PF next to Cousins. In fact he might personally get Cousins fouled out if they play major mins together. If his shot isn't falling he doesn't serve much purpose. I think he is a must trade now guy. a movable piece for sure

Salmons eh- its Salmons... 1 on 1 salmons. speaking of movable pieces this deal is almost done!!! that being the case we can use him to take on a Big rudy gay type deal. not sure im down with Gay but a player/contract like that maybe? or we just sit out the year and have more money this summer. thats my review of his play this game.

Outlaw 9- earned more looks and mins. i guess we will just see what he does with that. might pass up Salmons if it continues.

Jimmer 6- ok he can shoot. but dang he is like a rookie cornerback in football. Just throw at that guy over and over and over again! the lakers ran 2 to 3 straight possessions at Jimmer all resulting in baskets and a kings Time OUT! haha he is just awful at defense. Honestly i just dont see him being useful until the 4th quarter of games when you start going offense/defense. he can sub in on offense, then call a timeout sub him out on defense! he could also be useful in a trade? eh? eh? cross your fingers!

Ray McM 7- im not buying the hype on this guy yet. he does look very confident and controlled. unless hes trying to lay it up. in that case it almost always results in an epic block with him crashing to the floor crazy hard! he needs to learn how to finish from Thomas. Ray showed a mid range shot that actually looked good. so thats a plus. I think theres potential here but im not seeing him anywhere near making it past 3rd string PG this year. no chance!!! but hes D-League all-star status right now tho. could be a good player down the line.

rest of the team eh.... im done.
 
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FYI i started writing this before a "grades" thread had been posted. my bad. i guess you can just move this into that thread.
 
Thomas being switched onto Pau.... lol! results in a corner free throw for Pau. Pau's easiest shot all night
 
Stats: 23min 10pts (3-7, 0-0, 4-6) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thompson ( B ) -- the Kings own version of old man river kept on rolling along again, looking almost as good off the bench tonight as he did as a starter against Golden State. Hustled for boards, and seems to have picked up the new staff's defensive schemes as quickly as any King. Was active on offense as well, but loses some ticks here for perhaps being a little TOO aggressive, forcing a tough turnaround miss after entering the game, and picking up several turnovers trying to do too much in the post and leaving the ball behind while trying to do the nifty.

Stats: 21min 10pts (4-9, 0-1, 2-2) 1reb 4ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
McCallum ( B ) -- occasionally over dribbled, but was solid with the ball again and had a settling effect. Wasn't making brilliant intuitive passes, but in a structured offense you don't need to, and was solidly getting the ball where it needed to go. Scored pretty easily at the hoop as we opened up the big lead in the second half. His weakness is supposed to be his outside shot, but he wasn't hesitating from out there. Not exactly smothering on defense, but again...solid. Which is more than can be said for any other Kings guard really, and Steve Blake was just godawful against him.
 
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Agree for the most part with those grades. I'm just willing McLemore to get free on a back door cut for a lob or to get out ahead of everyone on a break. He's ridiculously quick, very impressive when he puts on the jets. Making plenty of rookie mistakes but also using his strengths, he's going to have some highlights this season.
 
Thanks, Brick. IRealy appreciate your insights. It's fun to read this after a good outing like last night. I imagine it must be the same experience writing your analysis. Let's hope we get more of this kind and less of the other.
 
Agree for the most part with those grades. I'm just willing McLemore to get free on a back door cut for a lob or to get out ahead of everyone on a break. He's ridiculously quick, very impressive when he puts on the jets. Making plenty of rookie mistakes but also using his strengths, he's going to have some highlights this season.

This was so noticeable it almost made me stand up and cheer. People need to watch him on the floor. His ball handling skills are below average going to the left and if asked to dribble more than twice but he will find a way to get open off the ball. I'm not complaining. Nobody's perfect.
 
Stats: 23min 10pts (3-7, 0-0, 4-6) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thompson ( B ) -- the Kings own version of old man river kept on rolling along again, looking almost as good off the bench tonight as he did as a starter against Golden State. Hustled for boards, and seems to have picked up the new staff's defensive schemes as quickly as any King. Was active on offense as well, but loses some ticks here for perhaps being a little TOO aggressive, forcing a tough turnaround miss after entering the game, and picking up several turnovers trying to do too much in the post and leaving the ball behind while trying to do the nifty.

Stats: 21min 10pts (4-9, 0-1, 2-2) 1reb 4ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
McCallum ( B ) -- occasionally over dribbled, but was solid with the ball again and had a settling effect. Wasn't making brilliant intuitive passes, but in a structured offense you don't need to, and was solidly getting the ball where it needed to go. Scored pretty easily at the hoop as we opened up the big lead in the second half. His weakness is supposed to be his outside shot, but he wasn't hesitating from out there. Not exactly smothering on defense, but again...solid. Which is more than can be said for any other Kings guard really, and Steve Blake was just godawful against him.

McCallum shot aroung 32% from the three in college. Not great, but not horrible either. He has good form on his shot, so with some work, there's no reason he can't become consistent from out there. It appears that perhaps he's already improving.
 
This was so noticeable it almost made me stand up and cheer. People need to watch him on the floor. His ball handling skills are below average going to the left and if asked to dribble more than twice but he will find a way to get open off the ball. I'm not complaining. Nobody's perfect.

After 5 years of every player who touched the ball trying to create off the dribble, it has already been beyond refreshing to see McLemore work off ball.
 
After 5 years of every player who touched the ball trying to create off the dribble, it has already been beyond refreshing to see McLemore work off ball.

Good thing we got him this year with a new coach too. Can you imagine how bad he would have looked last year trying to create for himself or while running around like crazy but never getting the ball. Something like TRob I bet.
 
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