Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

With how putrid Jovic has been this year after signing a extension (he didn't deserve) a Ellis or Carter for Jovic deal could be possible if the Kings are willing to risk it he'd be getting paid what most think Ellis would get if he signed an extension for next season. Pretty big risk for a guy who on paper has a lot of what you want but just goes from a one extreme to another in good or bad and has had injury issues.

Ellis seems like a Miami guy through and through.
 
How many years does Derozan have left? I doubt anyone wants him.

He's only got 10 million guaranteed next season. He'd basically be free asset wise. Probably just save the Kings that 10 mil and he's yours kind of stuff. I can see teams being interested. There are too many teams in the muck with not a lot of options. There likely won't be half the league just looking to tank, they'll see the opportunity to make the playoffs. DeMar can help someone.
 
He's only got 10 million guaranteed next season. He'd basically be free asset wise. Probably just save the Kings that 10 mil and he's yours kind of stuff. I can see teams being interested. There are too many teams in the muck with not a lot of options. There likely won't be half the league just looking to tank, they'll see the opportunity to make the playoffs. DeMar can help someone.

I think DDR is going to be one of the best assets at the deadline, precisely because of his contract. Won't cost too much to obtain and he can be just a half-year rental for a playoff push. Assuming we continue down this path of losing, his chances of getting traded are about as close to 100% as it can possibly get.

Same with Russ. Min contract that'll only cost a 2028 2nd round pick? Maybe 2? With his current form, he can slot onto to pretty much any playoff team and help that bench.

And (unfortunately) same with Keon. He might be the price we have to pay to get off Dennis and/or LaVine
 
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I think DDR is going to be one of the best assets at the deadline, precisely because of his contract. Won't cost too much to obtain and he can be just a half-year rental for a playoff push. Assuming we continue down this path of losing, his chances of getting traded are about as close to 100% as it can possibly get.

The only stumbling block for the Kings is in taking any longer term salary. These trades with the Kings selling off Domas, LaVine, Monk, and DeMar that has them taking back long term deals on role guys would be a tough pill to swallow if it doesn't come with some draft capital.
 
The only stumbling block for the Kings is in taking any longer term salary. These trades with the Kings selling off Domas, LaVine, Monk, and DeMar that has them taking back long term deals on role guys would be a tough pill to swallow if it doesn't come with some draft capital.

If it was up to me I’d trade Lavine to the Clips (easily best fit for him and they have expirings) and keep Deebo unless he returns a real asset. I’d tell him he is going to start, play 25 minutes most nights with the occasional 30 and help mentor the rest of the season with a buy out this offseason so he can sign with a team of his choosing. I’d consider trading him to Miami for that Rozier contract but Id want a couple second rounders.
 
Ham said today that he thinks there might be a trade in the works. It appears to be just speculation, but his reasoning was that Dennis has been questionable to play for awhile now (questionable allegedly means 50/50 will play and it’s not common to be questionable this long) and the timing of Carter’s Stockton move (indicating he might be getting his wind in case he starts playing soon.) Who knows.
 
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Ham said today that he thinks there might be a trade in the works. It appears to be just speculation, but his reasoning was that Dennis has been questionable to play for a awhile now (questionable allegedly means 50/50 will play and it’s not common to be questionable this long) and the timing of Carter’s Stockton move (indicating he might be getting his wind in case he starts playing soon. Who knows.
Gotta say, it would be a great look as a GM to trade your very first free agent signing on the first day you could by rule do so.
 
Gotta say, it would be a great look as a GM to trade your very first free agent signing on the first day you could by rule do so.

Scott prides himself on being transparent (and given he reads his journal on social media, maybe he is) I’d imagine he talked to his agent about the possibility of things working out like this even at his original signing. Not necessarily that he would look to move him as an asset but more like hey, we will pay you well, give you a starting job and if things go south we will send you to a contender.

Again, who knows if anything actually happens but the Carter timing is weird given they could have done that when they were at home, instead of in the middle of a road trip.
 

CJ McCollum is the one guy on this list that I would 100% bet on being traded before the deadline. His current team doesn't need him, is tanking, and he's an expiring contract so that takes care of the Seller part of this. And on the other end, pretty much every competing team in the league could find a roster spot for a microwave scorer with a career average of 40% behind the 3pt line who is putting up big numbers right now and does not represent a long-term financial commitment.
 

Kings going from no forwards to a logjam would be hilarious lol
I remain on the "Don't Trade Domas" train, but if we absolutely had to, Kuminga and some picks is a good place to start considerations.

Patrick Williams appears to be basically atrocious at this point and has three more years on his deal, so I would shy away from that. Zach Collins makes basically the same money and is expiring - he could be slotted into this trade in the place of PWill without messing with the salary matching.

Then it becomes a question of picks. I don't think the Warriors can ask for much (if anything) if they get Vucevic back for Kuminga. The Bulls have upgraded from Vuc to Domas on a long deal, so they've got to send at least two picks to us, feels like it should probably be something like two picks and one or two swaps. Fortunately, they've got all their picks to deal, so...that could at least be a framework.

But again, I don't even consider it unless trading Domas becomes an imperative, and I'm not there yet.
 
I remain on the "Don't Trade Domas" train, but if we absolutely had to, Kuminga and some picks is a good place to start considerations.

Patrick Williams appears to be basically atrocious at this point and has three more years on his deal, so I would shy away from that. Zach Collins makes basically the same money and is expiring - he could be slotted into this trade in the place of PWill without messing with the salary matching.

Then it becomes a question of picks. I don't think the Warriors can ask for much (if anything) if they get Vucevic back for Kuminga. The Bulls have upgraded from Vuc to Domas on a long deal, so they've got to send at least two picks to us, feels like it should probably be something like two picks and one or two swaps. Fortunately, they've got all their picks to deal, so...that could at least be a framework.

But again, I don't even consider it unless trading Domas becomes an imperative, and I'm not there yet.

The question is how do the Kings build a competitive team around Domas at this point?
 
The question is how do the Kings build a competitive team around Domas at this point?

This is unfortunately where I'm at now too. I love Domas, he's probably my favorite King of all-time, but we failed our build around him. I just don't see a path where we can put a legit playoff contender around him while he's still here and playing at peak form.

This season is lost, which leaves 2 more years with him under contract. The best bet is to sell now, especially if we can maybe snag another 26 pick in the deal and just really make sure we start the rebuild from the beginning. Basically where do we want to be in 2 years? Sell everything to try and save a winner around Domas? Or a clean cap sheet, hopefully 2 top 7 pick rookies with future draft capital on the horizon? I don't think there's really much of a hedge between those 2 options
 
The question is how do the Kings build a competitive team around Domas at this point?
Sure, potentially not easy, but I hate to give up on the best player we've had since Webber. Even a full 3-5 year rebuild is unlikely to land us a *better* player, so the threshold for giving up on Domas should be considerably high.

Originally the plan seemed to be to build around Domas/Fox as the two best players with Keegan as the third. This got us the Beam Team year, and the idea after that should have been to build around that. Our big add coming off of the Beam Team year was Sasha Vezenkov, and man, that seemed like a great idea at the time but fell completely flat. That said, we didn't really see that much of a drop-off in record (2 wins) and if you consider that the West was much healthier that second year, maybe we really didn't have a step back, we just didn't take a step forward. So we tried again in year 3 by shipping off Barnes to bring in DeRozan. This was a miscalculation because we didn't recognize how important of a glue player Barnes was and how badly the drop in perimeter defense moving to DDR was going to hurt us since we didn't have a rim protector. And then Fox blew the whole thing sky high.

So it was a multiply-failed build, not an impossible build. We've still got two pieces of it. And then we've got a couple of vets we need to offload. If we add a dynamic on-the-ball perimeter player then we're nearly in the same space we were before. Imagine, for instance, being in position to draft Dybantsa - you wouldn't necessarily play him as "point guard" but he can be a lead perimeter guy who can break down the defense on the dribble.

Then we're working to fill in the blanks with 4th/5th most important starters and a bench crew. One of those blanks would be a 3-and-D perimeter guy, and we kinda can see filling that with Keon or Nique. The other big blank is a rim protector that can play next to Sabonis. That, really, is the biggest ask in my mind - we know that Sabonis didn't work all that well next to Turner, but what about a Derek Lively-type guy? Could that work as a frontcourt?

Then, as for the rest of the rotation, we've got Monk (if we keep him around), the other of Nique/Keon, and Max as a starting point.

So:
Keon / Nique
Dybantsa / Monk
Keegan
Domas
Bouncy Defensive Big / Max

If that's a good start, then we really only need one piece of lotto luck and one smart FA/trade to get there. Yes, there's not a traditional floor general PG in there, but there's good playmaking with Domas and Dybantsa and all the bench guys, and all of sudden we're not at all undersized anymore. 3 of the 5 positions are defenders, with some hope at "SG" simply due to size/athleticism and maybe some DC rubbing off eventually. And this type of a core, especially given the way we're playing this year, is not really that far out of reach. I'd rather try to hit on something like this than burn the whole thing down and start over.
 
Sure, potentially not easy, but I hate to give up on the best player we've had since Webber. Even a full 3-5 year rebuild is unlikely to land us a *better* player, so the threshold for giving up on Domas should be considerably high.

Originally the plan seemed to be to build around Domas/Fox as the two best players with Keegan as the third. This got us the Beam Team year, and the idea after that should have been to build around that. Our big add coming off of the Beam Team year was Sasha Vezenkov, and man, that seemed like a great idea at the time but fell completely flat. That said, we didn't really see that much of a drop-off in record (2 wins) and if you consider that the West was much healthier that second year, maybe we really didn't have a step back, we just didn't take a step forward. So we tried again in year 3 by shipping off Barnes to bring in DeRozan. This was a miscalculation because we didn't recognize how important of a glue player Barnes was and how badly the drop in perimeter defense moving to DDR was going to hurt us since we didn't have a rim protector. And then Fox blew the whole thing sky high.

So it was a multiply-failed build, not an impossible build. We've still got two pieces of it. And then we've got a couple of vets we need to offload. If we add a dynamic on-the-ball perimeter player then we're nearly in the same space we were before. Imagine, for instance, being in position to draft Dybantsa - you wouldn't necessarily play him as "point guard" but he can be a lead perimeter guy who can break down the defense on the dribble.

Then we're working to fill in the blanks with 4th/5th most important starters and a bench crew. One of those blanks would be a 3-and-D perimeter guy, and we kinda can see filling that with Keon or Nique. The other big blank is a rim protector that can play next to Sabonis. That, really, is the biggest ask in my mind - we know that Sabonis didn't work all that well next to Turner, but what about a Derek Lively-type guy? Could that work as a frontcourt?

Then, as for the rest of the rotation, we've got Monk (if we keep him around), the other of Nique/Keon, and Max as a starting point.

So:
Keon / Nique
Dybantsa / Monk
Keegan
Domas
Bouncy Defensive Big / Max

If that's a good start, then we really only need one piece of lotto luck and one smart FA/trade to get there. Yes, there's not a traditional floor general PG in there, but there's good playmaking with Domas and Dybantsa and all the bench guys, and all of sudden we're not at all undersized anymore. 3 of the 5 positions are defenders, with some hope at "SG" simply due to size/athleticism and maybe some DC rubbing off eventually. And this type of a core, especially given the way we're playing this year, is not really that far out of reach. I'd rather try to hit on something like this than burn the whole thing down and start over.

Where I differ here is that I think De'Aaron Fox was the best player we've had here since Chris Webber and it was his competitiveness that was the driving force of that Beam Team group. I don't think we're going to replace his production or his attitude by swapping in just any scorer. A lot of folks had convinced themselves back in February that Zach LaVine was going to be an upgrade because of his better shooting efficiency but I think that was mostly emotional fallout from feeling like Fox wronged us driving a need to downplay who and what Fox represents as a player. Even now there's an impetus to downplay his significance to the Kings and act like he was just a guy who occasionally had 40 point games, often took months off, and didn't play a lot of defense.

Perhaps Dybantsa is a guy who gets us back up there quickly if he's all he's billed to be but in order to draft Dybantsa we likely will need a top 3 pick in this draft. As things presently stand -- and it's hard to see them getting worse given who our competition is for the top lottery spots -- we have a 36.1 % chance of landing a top 3 pick. Those are not great odds. There's better odds of us scuffling about for 4-5 years picking anywhere from 4-10 every year and missing on every one of those picks. It's happened before. Maybe this is the one year where you can say "if we get that top 3 pick, we hold on to Sabonis and see what we have" but we'd already be playing with fire trying to build around an 18 year old wing and a 29 year old center. Most of the time it takes 2-5 years for even an elite prospect to hit their stride and by then Sabonis is going to be a serious injury concern or may even be on his way out of the league. And that's with a best-case scenario of drafting a franchise player in the 2026 draft.

It feels to me like the timeline has already been used up when it comes to Sabonis and trying to keep him through a roster reset would mean setting ourselves up for disappointment down the line. And there's also the unresolved issue of who we're going to get to pair with him in the frontcourt to make up for his defensive limitations. Indiana couldn't figure it out and 4 years into his tenure in Sacramento, we haven't figured it out either.
 
Where I differ here is that I think De'Aaron Fox was the best player we've had here since Chris Webber and it was his competitiveness that was the driving force of that Beam Team group. I don't think we're going to replace his production or his attitude by swapping in just any scorer. A lot of folks had convinced themselves back in February that Zach LaVine was going to be an upgrade because of his better shooting efficiency but I think that was mostly emotional fallout from feeling like Fox wronged us driving a need to downplay who and what Fox represents as a player. Even now there's an impetus to downplay his significance to the Kings and act like he was just a guy who occasionally had 40 point games, often took months off, and didn't play a lot of defense.

Perhaps Dybantsa is a guy who gets us back up there quickly if he's all he's billed to be but in order to draft Dybantsa we likely will need a top 3 pick in this draft. As things presently stand -- and it's hard to see them getting worse given who our competition is for the top lottery spots -- we have a 36.1 % chance of landing a top 3 pick. Those are not great odds. There's better odds of us scuffling about for 4-5 years picking anywhere from 4-10 every year and missing on every one of those picks. It's happened before. Maybe this is the one year where you can say "if we get that top 3 pick, we hold on to Sabonis and see what we have" but we'd already be playing with fire trying to build around an 18 year old wing and a 29 year old center. Most of the time it takes 2-5 years for even an elite prospect to hit their stride and by then Sabonis is going to be a serious injury concern or may even be on his way out of the league. And that's with a best-case scenario of drafting a franchise player in the 2026 draft.

It feels to me like the timeline has already been used up when it comes to Sabonis and trying to keep him through a roster reset would mean setting ourselves up for disappointment down the line. And there's also the unresolved issue of who we're going to get to pair with him in the frontcourt to make up for his defensive limitations. Indiana couldn't figure it out and 4 years into his tenure in Sacramento, we haven't figured it out either.

And in reality the best player by far the Kings have had was Cuz, :p.

As for LaVine it's hard to say anything about anything as for fit and what not because the team that was was basically dumpster fired last season. New GM, new coach, players dangled all summer. Sorry no player is buying in on that unless they don't know any better.
 
And in reality the best player by far the Kings have had was Cuz, :p.

As for LaVine it's hard to say anything about anything as for fit and what not because the team that was was basically dumpster fired last season. New GM, new coach, players dangled all summer. Sorry no player is buying in on that unless they don't know any better.

I love Boogie and would probably grant that he was the most talented player to land in Sacramento over the last 20 years but the sum totality of who he was (and is) as a basketball player comes with some significant negatives too.

The difference between Fox and LaVine appears to be 46 wins and maybe 30 wins? That's more than just roster dysfunction and hurt feelings. Unless you think losing Trey Lyles and Kevin Huerter was a crippling blow, it appears that Fox's impact on the team was underestimated by many.
 
I love Boogie and would probably grant that he was the most talented player to land in Sacramento over the last 20 years but the sum totality of who he was (and is) as a basketball player comes with some significant negatives too.

The difference between Fox and LaVine appears to be 46 wins and maybe 30 wins? That's more than just roster dysfunction and hurt feelings. Unless you think losing Trey Lyles and Kevin Huerter was a crippling blow, it appears that Fox's impact on the team was underestimated by many.

Eh, sorry. That's a gross oversimplification of whats happened to this squad since Fox left. Your LaVine bias is showing
 
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Eh, sorry. That's a gross oversimplification of whats happened to this squad since Fox left. Your LaVine bias is showing

I have not been shy about showing off my anti-LaVine bias just as others have not been shy about showing off their anti-Fox bias. I also left out the part where Doug Christie was supposed to elevate this team over Mike Brown who, despite winning two Coach of the Year awards, is evidently too mid for Sacramento fans. How's that working out?
 
I have not been shy about showing off my anti-LaVine bias just as others have not been shy about showing off their anti-Fox bias. I also left out the part where Doug Christie was supposed to elevate this team over Mike Brown who, despite winning two Coach of the Year awards, is evidently too mid for Sacramento fans. How's that working out?

I agree, I've been in lockstep with how big of a downgrade Doug has been. But also at GM and just the spirit of the team being killed by Fox.

But your statement said they only change was Fox, when we've had functionally entire organizational turnover, 7 new players from the beginning of last year along with losing Fox.
 
Competitive has been done, deep playoff team?, not sure it can be done.

Yeah, and this is THIS bad. They've gone from competitive at a ceiling to DOA. OK, LaVine and Fox aren't worlds apart talent wise overall, but the team with Fox was eons away from contention to begin with. That says all it needs to say, the negativity clearly was what it was by that point and is what it is and likely won't go away now. As soon as Domas said "We need a PG" it was over. Now Domas wants to go back to basically running the offense? So... how'd that work out Domas? It's just over at this point no matter what. They could try and patch things up but what's the point really.
 
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