Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999517695843140058

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999557184959467884

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I saw something suggesting Knicks might be interested in Schröder. But also that they may want DiVincenzo back.

Is the 15th the date we can move Dennis?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999557184959467884

Do the Bucks have a first before they trade Giannis?

 

[Tetsujin]

Do the Bucks have a first before they trade Giannis?

They don’t really have a tradeable pick until 2030

 

[Capt. Factorial]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999558422493106234

Expirings, young players, and draft capital all day babayyyy!

Wow, Phoenix has so little draft capital it's comical. They have three seconds ('26 probably-PHI; '29 PHX; '32 worst-of-PHX/HOU) and they can SWAP one "actual" first ('32 PHX) and put YET ANOTHER swap on three already b.s. firsts ('27 worst-of-CLE/MIN/UTA; '28 worst-of-BKN/NYK/WAS/PHI/PHX; '30 worst-of-WAS/MEM/PHX).

Washington (why would they do this?) could at least get their way into the discussion, but Phoenix looks kinda dead in the water.

 

[Tetsujin]

Wow, Phoenix has so little draft capital it's comical. They have three seconds ('26 probably-PHI; '29 PHX; '32 worst-of-PHX/HOU) and they can SWAP one "actual" first ('32 PHX) and put YET ANOTHER swap on three already b.s. firsts ('27 worst-of-CLE/MIN/UTA; '28 worst-of-BKN/NYK/WAS/PHI/PHX; '30 worst-of-WAS/MEM/PHX).

Washington (why would they do this?) could at least get their way into the discussion, but Phoenix looks kinda dead in the water.

The Pelicans apparently offered them the trade that the Hawks bit on that essentially gifted Atlanta a top 5 pick next season but the Suns were so hellbent on taking Maluach that they passed on it and now have no picks for the foreseeable future

 

[Noble]

Daniel Gafford would be a good get

 

[Noble]

If you could only make 1 trade that doesn't nuke our current roster, who would you trade for

 

[Tetsujin]

Daniel Gafford would be a good get

Why? Dudes not on our timeline at all?

 

[Joshyjosh31]

I dont want to give up on Sabonis. I'd try to trade Lavine first.

Lavine for Dejounte Murray and Herb Jones works in the trade machine

How many unprotected picks are we sending

 

[Jdbraver137]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999517695843140058

Besides sarr who would we want back? They have old guy and a few young guys that replicate what we already have. No wings. It would be a pure salary dump

 

[SacTownKid]

Yep, I've done a 180 on Russ. One guy I want young players to watch and see what it takes in the league is Russ. Never gives up and always hustling.

There's like 18 years of tape to watch. Russ playing 40 mpg is stupid. All teams like this have is time and there is no sense being made of investing in short term investments like that. Anyone who lived through the post Webber years knows exactly how this story ends. Wasted time and behind the 8 ball when the inevitable happens. Russ should be playing with these young guys though. He looked pretty good with the youth last night.

 

[The_Jamal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999557184959467884

If we could get out of Lavine with just expirings and us not having to add picks, I'm in. I dont even need the first, thats how much I value getting Nique/Carter on the floor

 

[BuddyBuckets]

I'll wait for the statistical argument that Cousins was a better player than Sabonis. There's not much to grab onto there. I've looked.

"Talent" here, however we measure that, means very little when the on-court production doesn't match the picture in our heads.

I mean just watch them both play. Cousins had a dozen moves he could go to. Taking guys off the dribble, squaring up, bully ball. Watching Sabonis its pretty clear his offensive bag is extremely limited. Amazing rebounder/put back guy, bully ball, but really doesn't have any "go-to moves"

 

[BuddyBuckets]

Russ is the only reason to watch this team right now. He's great, and he's not helping them win. It's perfect.

He's also playing well enough someone will trade for him that thinks he can play on their playoff roster. Even a 2nd round pick is just gravy.

Id say at minimum 1 but more likely 2 of our wins are due to Russ.

 

[kingsboi]

don't know what the Wiz would do with Sabonis but teams have snagged some talent from the Wiz in the past in Avdija, Hachimura and Gafford maybe there is another player there that could blossom with more time and development

 

[The_Jamal]

I mean just watch them both play. Cousins had a dozen moves he could go to. Taking guys off the dribble, squaring up, bully ball. Watching Sabonis its pretty clear his offensive bag is extremely limited. Amazing rebounder/put back guy, bully ball, but really doesn't have any "go-to moves"

@Capt. Factorial

Can you confirm if "doesn't really have any go-to moves" is a statistic that proves Boogie was better than Domas?

 

[See_Hanks]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999511095388610750

Wizards!?!



I’d be down for Trae if we draft Boozer, AJ, Peterson, or Wilson we’d still need a pg and he could set them up well especially the two bigs

I would take Giddey straight up for Sabonis. I would even throw in Carter, and Keegan if it meant getting Dosunmu as well.
From the Wizards or Suns I wouldn't want any of them. Except maybe Jalen Green, but not straight up. It would be a salary from us for Green and one of their young players maybe Gillespie? Who knows..

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I saw something suggesting Knicks might be interested in Schröder. But also that they may want DiVincenzo back.

Is the 15th the date we can move Dennis?

Yes. To anyone but Detroit

 

[Joshyjosh31]

@Capt. Factorial

Can you confirm if "doesn't really have any go-to moves" is a statistic that proves Boogie was better than Domas?

I mean not having a go to move is the reason he’s just a rebounder in the playoffs or play-in

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I mean not having a go to move is the reason he’s just a rebounder in the playoffs or play-in

Domas has made his entire career on being an amazing rebounder and a great facilitator while being a second option on the scoring end. Scoring is not the only way that a player can contribute.

Arguing that Domas sucks because he's not a primary scorer with a go-to move is like arguing that Dennis Rodman sucked. There are a lot of aspects to the game, and Domas absolutely dominates the ones that he is good at. And when he DOES shoot, he scores very efficiently.

I don't know why this is so hard.

 

[iowamcnabb]

I’m open to trading Sabonis but I’m not set on it either. Would really like to see what he looks surrounded with a bunch of size, defense and shooting. Hes never has all three in Sac

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Domas has made his entire career on being an amazing rebounder and a great facilitator while being a second option on the scoring end. Scoring is not the only way that a player can contribute.

Arguing that Domas sucks because he's not a primary scorer with a go-to move is like arguing that Dennis Rodman sucked. There are a lot of aspects to the game, and Domas absolutely dominates the ones that he is good at. And when he DOES shoot, he scores very efficiently.

I don't know why this is so hard.

Like Rodman Sabonis shouldn’t be a top two player on your team unless you have play-in aspirations

 

[BuddyBuckets]

@Capt. Factorial

Can you confirm if "doesn't really have any go-to moves" is a statistic that proves Boogie was better than Domas?

So raw numbers are the only judgement for a player?

Its a different era in todays nba. Back when cousins was putting up 25+, that was good for 4 years straight of top 10 scoring. In todays nba with the speed/pace of the game, cousins would be dropping 30ppg with ease.

Sabonis is playing in an era where 50+ players are dropping 20+ ppg. Teams are consistently scoring 115+. And yet, he never cracked that number as a member of the Kings.

Prime rebounding numbers are pretty close. Both were skilled passing bigs (sabonis clearly played with more talent and a dho system) Neither known as a defender but id argue cousins was more capable.

What exactly makes sabonis better? Longevity? Raw numbers? Fox has career better numbers than jkidd, but nobody thinks hes a better player than him. Shai has put up better statistical seasons than kobe ever has, especially considering efficiency. When do we start to take context into account?

 

[BuddyBuckets]

Like Rodman Sabonis shouldn’t be a top two player on your team unless you have play-in aspirations

Unlike rodman, sabonis is a below average defender and a guy who demands touches.

Ill never understand people defending sabonis the way they do. Great king, will go down as a fan favorite. But we can be honest about the player he is. Defensive liability, non existent as a rim protector, great rebounder, great screen setter, not a guy you give the ball to when you need a bucket.

We all watched the warriors series where a coach's answer to sabonis was to play him 1v1 and sag off using kevon looney. That simple coaching decision broke the kings offense and rendered the dho useless. Sabonis forced the issue drawing offensive fouls and turnovers. We suddenly turned into an iso ball team of fox/monk taking turns.

We can respect and appreciate sabonis game and contribution to the Kings, without forcing him to be a guy he wasnt. This year was further evidence that without building the system around him perfectly, he struggles immensely offensively.

I chalk it up to half the fan base upset at fox so turned to the well sabonis is our best guy anyways. Soon sabonis will get traded and the reality will set in with these folks.

 

[serbiangoat]

I mean just watch them both play. Cousins had a dozen moves he could go to. Taking guys off the dribble, squaring up, bully ball. Watching Sabonis its pretty clear his offensive bag is extremely limited. Amazing rebounder/put back guy, bully ball, but really doesn't have any "go-to moves"

He also had terrible touch, low IQ and terrible shot selection and teammates hated playing with him , Cousins had no go to moves either it's why his FG% was bad for a big. The Kings also won a similar amount of games when they replaced Cousins with a way past his prime Zbo.

Was Cousins more skilled than Sabonis sure but who helps you win more and that's easily Sabonis that's all that matters winning players

 

[kingsboi]

Unlike rodman, sabonis is a below average defender and a guy who demands touches.

Ill never understand people defending sabonis the way they do. Great king, will go down as a fan favorite. But we can be honest about the player he is. Defensive liability, non existent as a rim protector, great rebounder, great screen setter, not a guy you give the ball to when you need a bucket.

We all watched the warriors series where a coach's answer to sabonis was to play him 1v1 and sag off using kevon looney. That simple coaching decision broke the kings offense and rendered the dho useless. Sabonis forced the issue drawing offensive fouls and turnovers. We suddenly turned into an iso ball team of fox/monk taking turns.

We can respect and appreciate sabonis game and contribution to the Kings, without forcing him to be a guy he wasnt. This year was further evidence that without building the system around him perfectly, he struggles immensely offensively.

I chalk it up to half the fan base upset at fox so turned to the well sabonis is our best guy anyways. Soon sabonis will get traded and the reality will set in with these folks.

you summed it up nicely here. Kings are paying him 40+ million to be a elite rebounder and screen setter while being a subpar offensive player. context really is the key ingredient here. Shai aka FTA wouldn't be a top 5 player, let alone an MVP in any other era

 

[The_Jamal]

you summed it up nicely here. Kings are paying him 40+ million to be a elite rebounder and screen setter while being a subpar offensive player. context really is the key ingredient here. Shai aka FTA wouldn't be a top 5 player, let alone an MVP in any other era

How did a subpar offensive player land on the all nba team 2 of the last 3 seasons?

Some of you are flat out ridiculous

 

[iowamcnabb]

you summed it up nicely here. Kings are paying him 40+ million to be an elite rebounder and screen setter while being a subpar offensive player. context really is the key ingredient here. Shai aka FTA wouldn't be a top 5 player, let alone an MVP in any other era

That’s selling Sabonis way short. Rebounder/screen setters don’t make the all star team 3 times