Yeah, I agree with Tetsujin on that one. I'd gladly take him at 16 but can't see him getting there. Would take a very, very hard look at Demin if he lasted to 16, but I'm not sure that's on the table either. Still, I think there's value to be had into the early 20s in this draft, so these ORL/MIA trade ideas - that seem at least remotely plausible from the other teams' side - that we could trade two offensively-talented but defensively-poor players to get two strong rotation defenders and two draft picks are starting to look like a promising way to "rebuild on the fly".