Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

[Tetsujin]

You realize he’s made an all NBA team before right?

He’s even made two!

 

[Tetsujin]

Not going to happen but….




Go nab Kasparas or Egor with pick 9. Flip Poeltl for more assets. Same with RJ. See if one of the bigs falls to 20 (trading Domas and immediately drafting Danny Wolf would be hilarious) or dream scenario would be Collin Murray-Boyles still being there somehow.

Jonas (if we don’t trade him in this scenario)/Mogbo
CMB/Jovic
Keegan/Dick
Lavine keeping AJ Dybantsa’s roster spot warm/Keon/Malik
Kasparas or Egor/Devin

Relatively clean reset that also wouldn’t be a total embarrassment for the city of Sacramento for a season.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929568586407788594

 

[SacTownKid]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929540741929275641

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929496522900803967

Zero chance anyone is trading an unprotected pick for Sabonis I would do it for two firsts one being number 7 this year

I think you are being a bit critical of Domas but that amount of picks would probably be on the high end of possibility at this point.

 

[SacTownKid]

Not going to happen but….


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Go nab Kasparas or Egor with pick 9. Flip Poeltl for more assets. Same with RJ. See if one of the bigs falls to 20 (trading Domas and immediately drafting Danny Wolf would be hilarious) or dream scenario would be Collin Murray-Boyles still being there somehow.

Jonas (if we don’t trade him in this scenario)/Mogbo
CMB/Jovic
Keegan/Dick
Lavine keeping AJ Dybantsa’s roster spot warm/Keon/Malik
Kasparas or Egor/Devin

Relatively clean reset that also wouldn’t be a total embarrassment for the city of Sacramento for a season.

The Kings wish, haha. I'd be shocked to see Domas go for a package like that. Same with DeMar. Sign me the F up though.

 

[SacTownKid]

Ok, a low risk logical trade that gets the Kings their "PG" and some added value.

 

[jiimbob]

Ok, a low risk logical trade that gets the Kings their "PG" and some added value.

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I haven’t really followed Smart since his Boston days, but yeah, throw in the 20th and id take that trade.
I also read somewhere the Kings were interested in their PG search for whatever that’s worth.

 

[The_Jamal]

What was your opinion on the Derozan pick up?

I thought it was a good risk/reward bet. Cost very little to bring him in. That the talent boost could overweigh some of the fit concerns. And to be fair, we didn't know Fox had a foot out the door the whole time, so not sure what this could have potentially looked like if Fox was locked in the whole time. Also, was just clearly not a stable season in terms of leadership/management with Brown getting fired, Loucks leaving midseason, Wilcox leaving midseaosn, Domas got hurt, etc.

 

[The_Jamal]

The Kings wish, haha. I'd be shocked to see Domas go for a package like that. Same with DeMar. Sign me the F up though.

I think whoever ends up being the Giannis loser very easily could pivot that capital to Domas.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929246613307805818

**** a rebuild. Let’s go get Naz Reid lol

 

[SacTownKid]

I think whoever ends up being the Giannis loser very easily could pivot that capital to Domas.

Maybe. Hopefully this is Toronto putting pressure on the Spurs to dump the cache of goodies so they can move onto Domas. That said, no way does a team remotely offer the same package for Giannis to the Kings for Domas.

 

[SacTownKid]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929246613307805818

**** a rebuild. Let’s go get Naz Reid lol

If he's doing that he has to have intel that a team with space is interested right? Where's the leverage otherwise. I mean unless the Wolves are just going to re-sign in anyway. This could give the Wolves a major advantage.

 

[KayDee55]

Ok, a low risk logical trade that gets the Kings their "PG" and some added value.

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I like this move. He could mentor devin and keon, too.

And yeah, we are not getting that picks for sabonis.

How you guys like this one

 

[Tetsujin]

I like this move. He could mentor devin and keon, too.

And yeah, we are not getting that picks for sabonis.

How you guys like this one

Why are the Kings sending out their two best players, a guy who was almost 6MOY two years in a row, and like five picks for a lotto protected pick next season and a grab bag of role players that would look nice next to the guys they just traded?

 

[KayDee55]

Why are the Kings sending out their two best players, a guy who was almost 6MOY two years in a row, and like five picks for a lotto protected pick next season and a grab bag of role players that would look nice next to the guys they just traded?

Thats only 2nd rounders and a bad 1st.
We have a 1st round pick in every draft, still, after this trade.

We send out players that cant play defense for guys that do.
You mention it, our two best players are players who get exploited on defense all the time.
We will never get anywhere like that.

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

Thats only 2nd rounders and a bad 1st.
We have a 1st round pick in every draft, still, after this trade.

We send out players that cant play defense for guys that do.
You mention it, our two best players are players who get exploited on defense all the time.
We will never get anywhere like that.

Nor will we get anywhere by trading players just for the sake of trading players...

 

[KayDee55]

Nor will we get anywhere by trading players just for the sake of trading players...

Addition by subtraction. Domas with that contract is hurting this team more than he os helping.
At the end of the season he will ask out, then his value will be lower.
He should be traded now

 

[SacTownKid]

Addition by subtraction. Domas with that contract is hurting this team more than he os helping.
At the end of the season he will ask out, then his value will be lower.
He should be traded now

Yeah, but Domas should still have pretty good value. 3 unprotected firsts? I'd be shocked but maybe 2. Even if he asks out he has value. This isn't like Fox or Siakam considering they had leverage contractually. Thankfully the Kings got out on Fox when they did, that package for Siakam is going to look even worse if the Pacers win a ring.

 

[Tetsujin]

why the hell are we acting like Sabonis is Greg Monroe all of a sudden?

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

Addition by subtraction. Domas with that contract is hurting this team more than he os helping.
At the end of the season he will ask out, then his value will be lower.
He should be traded now

Addition by subtraction doesn't necessarily mean, "Hey, let's just dump one of our bad contracts for a bunch of bench warmers, draft picks, and maybe cash to make up for the difference".

Especially if that bad contract is Domas, or someone of his caliber.

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

why the hell are we acting like Sabonis is Greg Monroe all of a sudden?

"we"???

 

[Tetsujin]

Addition by subtraction doesn't necessarily mean, "Hey, let's just dump one of our bad contracts for a bunch of bench warmers, draft picks, and maybe cash to make up for the difference".

Especially if that bad contract is Domas, or someone of his caliber.

The Bucks need to trade Giannis for pennys on the dollar! Have you seen his contract?!!!

 

[The_Jamal]

Maybe. Hopefully this is Toronto putting pressure on the Spurs to dump the cache of goodies so they can move onto Domas. That said, no way does a team remotely offer the same package for Giannis to the Kings for Domas.

Nope, but like 75-80ish% of the Giannis package is about what we should be asking for.

 

[The_Jamal]

Why are the Kings sending out their two best players, a guy who was almost 6MOY two years in a row, and like five picks for a lotto protected pick next season and a grab bag of role players that would look nice next to the guys they just traded?

My favorite thing about these proposals are these are the same people who "mOnTe wAs a sCruB gM" and then somehow come with mind-bogglingly bad trade proposals

 

[Tetsujin]

Nope, but like 75-80ish% of the Giannis package is about what we should be asking for.

The Giannis package is probably something like Scottie/five unprotected picks including this year’s 9th overall and swaps in every single other available year. I’m perfectly fine with like a third of that (RJ/ Poeltl and a lesser prospect like Mogbo or Dick instead of Scottie paired with the pick this season and one or two more firsts) for Domas lol

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

My favorite thing about these proposals are these are the same people who "mOnTe wAs a sCruB gM" and then somehow come with mind-bogglingly bad trade proposals

...that are much worse than anything Monte could've ever drawn up during his tenure as GM.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

why the hell are we acting like Sabonis is Greg Monroe all of a sudden?

It's bewildering

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Addition by subtraction doesn't necessarily mean, "Hey, let's just dump one of our bad contracts for a bunch of bench warmers, draft picks, and maybe cash to make up for the difference".

Especially if that bad contract is Domas, or someone of his caliber.

There have been any number of what I would consider "reasonable" rumors/suggestions thrown about that could help us get out from under the "3 actually pretty good SGs who can't play a lick of D" problem we've found ourselves in.

One is the longstanding idea that DDR is a good fit in Miami, and especially given their (rumored) dissatisfaction with Jaquez' off-court behavior there's been plenty of speculation that Miami might move Jaquez, #20, and salary for DDR.

A second is the Vecenie suggestion (not sure it rises to the level of a rumor) of a Kings/Orlando swap where Monk goes east and Isaac and the #16 pick come west. Since this has been suggested by a disinterested third party, it seems like it might be fair value.

A third is that following Tatum's achilles tear the Celtics may well be looking to shed salary and try to reset their tax situation while they're not exactly in contention (next year and probably the year after because an achilles usually takes one year to heal and one year to get all the way back). They could do that, most likely, by salary dumping the aging Jrue Holiday.

Now, I'm not going to go back into the trade machine right now, but assuming all of these deals are basically of interest to MIA/ORL/BOS and ourselves, it's actually possible to make all three happen in a single deal with minimal (but some) extras. Starting from these three reasonable ideas, we could have a deal that looks about like this for us:

Outgoing: DDR, Monk
Incoming: Holiday, Isaac, Jaquez, '25 #16, '25 #20

Suddenly you're looking at something like:

Holiday/Carter
LaVine/Ellis
Murray/Jaquez
Isaac
Sabonis/Valanciunas

with two decent picks and free agency to fill out the forward rotation. Now that's a much, much better defensive team, and you don't have to spend most of your game with at least two obligate scorers at the SG on the floor simultaneously. Sabonis is who he is, LaVine is the scorer, Holiday is the defensive lead guard, Murray does everything (and is asked to score a bit more than last season), Isaac covers the paint defensively for Domas, Carter, Keon, and Jaquez bring defense, defense, defense. And two picks.

Assuming we could make this happen with all three teams, this is addition by subtraction and addition. How is this not better than blowing things up and trying to trade Sabonis for peanuts?

 

[Joshyjosh31]

There have been any number of what I would consider "reasonable" rumors/suggestions thrown about that could help us get out from under the "3 actually pretty good SGs who can't play a lick of D" problem we've found ourselves in.

One is the longstanding idea that DDR is a good fit in Miami, and especially given their (rumored) dissatisfaction with Jaquez' off-court behavior there's been plenty of speculation that Miami might move Jaquez, #20, and salary for DDR.

A second is the Vecenie suggestion (not sure it rises to the level of a rumor) of a Kings/Orlando swap where Monk goes east and Isaac and the #16 pick come west. Since this has been suggested by a disinterested third party, it seems like it might be fair value.

A third is that following Tatum's achilles tear the Celtics may well be looking to shed salary and try to reset their tax situation while they're not exactly in contention (next year and probably the year after because an achilles usually takes one year to heal and one year to get all the way back). They could do that, most likely, by salary dumping the aging Jrue Holiday.

Now, I'm not going to go back into the trade machine right now, but assuming all of these deals are basically of interest to MIA/ORL/BOS and ourselves, it's actually possible to make all three happen in a single deal with minimal (but some) extras. Starting from these three reasonable ideas, we could have a deal that looks about like this for us:

Outgoing: DDR, Monk
Incoming: Holiday, Isaac, Jaquez, '25 #16, '25 #20

Suddenly you're looking at something like:

Holiday/Carter
LaVine/Ellis
Murray/Jaquez
Isaac
Sabonis/Valanciunas

with two decent picks and free agency to fill out the forward rotation. Now that's a much, much better defensive team, and you don't have to spend most of your game with at least two obligate scorers at the SG on the floor simultaneously. Sabonis is who he is, LaVine is the scorer, Holiday is the defensive lead guard, Murray does everything (and is asked to score a bit more than last season), Isaac covers the paint defensively for Domas, Carter, Keon, and Jaquez bring defense, defense, defense. And two picks.

Assuming we could make this happen with all three teams, this is addition by subtraction and addition. How is this not better than blowing things up and trying to trade Sabonis for peanuts?

Because that team will struggle to make the the playoffs-in I’d start Jaquez over Issac

 

[jiimbob]

I’d be pretty disappointed f we can’t build a respectable team that doesn’t include Domas, I think he’s a good guy and a unique talent.
Of course he may have a different opinion but I’d think he’d recognise the organisation is trying and he does have a nice home nearby in the wine country.