To be honest it all depends on the season and what their current and predicted occupancy levels are - if they're full they're going to be a lot stingier than if they have a bunch of open rooms. Also with casinos they like to keep you in the casino where you'll gamble so anything you can do to get them to believe you'll drop some serious change at the tables will help, so if you have a gambler in the group with a players club membership already at the Palms that can help too.