Peja's rebounding...

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Peja over the previous 4 seasons has averaged 5.72 rebounds for the Kings. This season he's averaging 4.40 per game. The last time Peja was averaging less than 5 boards a game was when he was in his first two seasons with the Kings and playing less than 24 minutes a game.

For a team that badly needs rebounding this is one area of Peja's game he's quite capable of giving more in, and he's simply not. I don't know if it's lack of focus or energy or what's going on with him. I certainly don't expect him to put up the rebounding numbers he did when Webber was out last season, but him applying a little more effort for a team that gets hurt constantly in this area would be nice.
 
Let's not just pick on Peja. This whole team needs to learn to play defense. I know Bibby sure could work on improving his defense and other players as well. How about Christie working on less TO's. He had 7 last night.

There's too many areas to work on rather than pointing a finger at one player....IMO.
 
Considering the fact that these are the same problems we have talked about for years maybe we should blame the coach???
 
How did Peja turning in an obviously career worst year on the boards get to be about the coach? Last time I checked Rick was coaching Peja all those other years too.

BTW, yes, Peja has been utterly miserable and womanly on the boards this year. He's never been very good, but this year he is one of the very worst rebounders in the entire NBA and is letting the whole team down when they desperately need the help.

Now that said, his rebounding has actually been picking up a bit in the last few weeks. There is no physical reason for him not to be putting up his normal modest numbers, and he's grabbed 6 or more boards 5 times in the last 9 games after only doing it only once in the first 17. So he's not going to turn into Garnett anytime soon, but signs are pointing toward him getting back to a more reasonable level here.
 
Pedja is playing like somebody who just wants to get "the hell out of there." He can do much brtter than he is at the moment
 
piksi said:
Pedja is playing like somebody who just wants to get "the hell out of there." He can do much brtter than he is at the moment
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That's a bit unfair.

He's playing like he's struggling/slumping a little bit. Plus he is still getting more minutes than anyone else on the team. Last night first time he came out was with 4 minutes left in 2nd qtr and he was back in to finish the half off.
 
Sadly enough... Peja is one of our best defenders... And yes I agree his rebounding sucks... But I'll take his O and D in replace of reboudning anyday.
 
He can't rebound as much when Webber and Miller are around. Last season he averaged 6 or something rebounds per game because it was Miller (good rebounder) and Vlade (not so good rebounder) and it was easier for him to grab boards. Now that Webber is back, Webber is much more aggresive on the rebounds which makes Peja think he doesn't have to do a lot.
 
bojan_pecanac said:
He can't rebound as much when Webber and Miller are around. Last season he averaged 6 or something rebounds per game because it was Miller (good rebounder) and Vlade (not so good rebounder) and it was easier for him to grab boards. Now that Webber is back, Webber is much more aggresive on the rebounds which makes Peja think he doesn't have to do a lot.
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If Miller and Webber were actualy sucking up rebounds like a pair of blakc holes I might buy this. But theteam numbers say other wise and on the offenisve end thereisstill plenty of work for Pedaj soI ain't buying it... reboundordieneeds to be the new motto!
 
vj9999 said:
That's a bit unfair.

He's playing like he's struggling/slumping a little bit. Plus he is still getting more minutes than anyone else on the team. Last night first time he came out was with 4 minutes left in 2nd qtr and he was back in to finish the half off.
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Let's put rebounding aside for a moment.

Pedja showed last Year what he is capable of. Where is that game gone ?
If he really cared - effort would be there. He would be more upset and would open his mouth too. Send some people to hell etc...
At this point he is just doing enough. Also he avoids any situation where he might get injured. He is "waiting it out." Obviously, it is the last season for RA and some other player. February getting closer too.
 
If Pedja is, in fact, "waiting it out" then I hope Petrie dumps him asap to the worst team in the league for future second round draft picks.

That is so unprofessional an attitude that I cannot believe someone who claims to be a fan of Pedja's would attribute it to him...or anyone else.

If he really cared effort would be there? He would be more upset? Open his mouth?

I don't even know where to start, but it's obvious that living so far from Sacramento has its disadvantages. You don't see the team in person; you don't talk to people who deal with the players in person; you don't have access to the same information.

Pedja has been working hard. He has other factors, such as a brand-new baby at home, that may influence him but he is not just phoning in his game. That is blatant and obvious if you see him IN PERSON. Not everything shows up on the little screen. If you talk to people who are there at every game (and there are a number of them who post on this board), you would NEVER accuse Pedja of just waiting it out.

Pedja and the team are struggling. They're not playing with focus; they're not doing the things they need to do on a regular basis; etc. I don't claim to have the answers; but I do know that there are certain things you see that simply cannot be faked. Pedja is a competitor. He wants to win.

Pedja is also relatively soft. He is NEVER going to become a monster out on the court; it hasn't happened so far and I doubt it will ever change.

But I know it doesn't no good to make these comments. There are Pedja fans who want him out of Sacramento and away from the big bad Webber. Well, be careful what you wish for...
 
I refuse to believe that Peja is a thief, cuz that is what he would be if he is doing that and collecting his hefty paycheck.
 
If Pedja was just "waiting it out," wouldn't you think Adelman, Turner, Carril, etc. would know it? How about the other players?

This idiocy about Pedja somehow being the one player who can phone it in and NOT be called on the carpet for it is ridiculous.
 
I am not going to dicuss this further because we will never agree.

We will just wait and see what happens.
 
piksi said:
I am not going to dicuss this further because we will never agree.

We will just wait and see what happens.
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Translation "I lost the argument...I'm not gonna play anymore"
 
ILV said:
Translation "I lost the argument...I'm not gonna play anymore"
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not even close.

More like:

I always have to be careful what I say and how I say it around here. Other posters can get sarcastic, ironic and personal at all times without consequences. This is one of this situations.
 
I know that you are a big fan of peja, Piksi.

If you really do believe that he is just mailing it in (to some extent)... What effect does that have on your opinion of him?

Do you think he is justified?
Or does it pee you off?
 
mcsluggo said:
I know that you are a big fan of peja, Piksi.

If you really do believe that he is just mailing it in (to some extent)... What effect does that have on your opinion of him?

Do you think he is justified?
Or does it pee you off?
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I am extremly pissed off lately. I can believe that he is wasting a year of his career to prove a point. There is no justification for "treason."
I do understand why he might be upset or frustrated. No excuses for what he is performing at the moment.
Did everyone forgett last season here ?
 
I was reading a serbian magazine saying.. Peja is playing so excellently.. and his popularity is rising.. I don't understand..at one point he plays so well you can't believe at another point he is so bad you just can't even watch.

What's going on?:confused:
 
Serb_Sweetie16 said:
I was reading a serbian magazine saying.. Peja is playing so excellently.. and his popularity is rising.. I don't understand..at one point he plays so well you can't believe at another point he is so bad you just can't even watch.

What's going on?:confused:
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this might be a solution to this problem
 
piksi said:
Did everyone forgett last season here ?
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Last season is...last season. Most professional athletes do not carry grudges over from one season to the next. It's just not something they do because there's no percentage in it.

Are you going to get to see the Kings IN PERSON at all this year? If you do, watch the team dynamics very carefully. As I've tried to point out, you do not get a true picture via the TV or even through radio broadcaster comments.

In all honesty, any "conflict" between Pedja and Webber is the least of the Kings' problems. And don't just believe me - listen to the people who watch the games IN PERSON. As I've tried to point out before, listen to the people who talk to the people who deal with the team on a daily basis. The media has reported the rift, whatever caused it, has been healed. The staff at Arco report NO indications of hurt feelings between Pedja and Chris. Lower level season ticket holders, who are in a position to see such things closely, have not seen ANYTHING to indicate a lingering animosity between the two...

Do you not think that it would be splashed all over the sports columns if anyone saw anything to hang a new rumor on? It's simply not an issue right now...
 
VF21 said:
Last season is...last season. Most professional athletes do not carry grudges over from one season to the next. It's just not something they do because there's no percentage in it.

Are you going to get to see the Kings IN PERSON at all this year? If you do, watch the team dynamics very carefully. As I've tried to point out, you do not get a true picture via the TV or even through radio broadcaster comments.

In all honesty, any "conflict" between Pedja and Webber is the least of the Kings' problems. And don't just believe me - listen to the people who watch the games IN PERSON. As I've tried to point out before, listen to the people who talk to the people who deal with the team on a daily basis. The media has reported the rift, whatever caused it, has been healed. The staff at Arco report NO indications of hurt feelings between Pedja and Chris. Lower level season ticket holders, who are in a position to see such things closely, have not seen ANYTHING to indicate a lingering animosity between the two...

Do you not think that it would be splashed all over the sports columns if anyone saw anything to hang a new rumor on? It's simply not an issue right now...
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When I mentioned last season - I was refering to Pedja's performance only. That is what I want to see. These are the standards the I am holding him to. He is not even close.

I do not care about that "conflict" at all. No matter what is going on he has to go out and give his best. He has about 6 million reasons to do so. This is NOT his best. He showed last season what he can do. Anything less is not acceptable.

I am very disappointed that he skipped olympics this summer. Will be more pissed if he leaves Kings and then starts playing the way he is capable of. That would be a serious lack of character.
 
Pedja's rebounding is bad and so is the teams rebounding as a whole. What needs to be done is we need the players to play with fire and I do not see that in any of our players right now especailly Pedja. In order for us to win it this year we need to get that burning fire back. The only one I see who has the fire most of time not all of the time is Chris. He is the leader of this team we need the players to get behind our leader and play with fire.
 
piksi said:
When I mentioned last season - I was refering to Pedja's performance only. That is what I want to see. These are the standards the I am holding him to. He is not even close.

I do not care about that "conflict" at all. No matter what is going on he has to go out and give his best. He has about 6 million reasons to do so. This is NOT his best. He showed last season what he can do. Anything less is not acceptable.

I am very disappointed that he skipped olympics this summer. Will be more pissed if he leaves Kings and then starts playing the way he is capable of. That would be a serious lack of character.
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Thank you for the clarification. I apologize because - until now - I have misunderstood what you were trying to say.

I cannot argue with anything you've said in this post.

:D
 
I've been saying all year that one way to interpret Peja's lack of rebounding would be to tie it to a lack of desire/dedication to the team. But that is not necessarily so -- its just us putting a "logical" gloss on it.

Here's the thing though -- Peja's rebounding numbers have, as I mentioned in my earlier post been going up somewhat at the same time that his overall play has slumped in the last few weeks (think I am going to start a more general thread with various numbers from our slump when I have time). So how do you fit that into a more generalized "he's just not trying" theory to explain his slump?
 
The simple explanation from watching games is that Peja doesn't really try to rebound when Webber and Miller are on the floor, he figures it will be taken care of. That's why there's so many obvious blunders from him during games is because he simply doesn't feel there's a need to rebound with those guys out there.

When Webber comes off the floor, and Peja is out there, most games you see a concentrated effort from him to go after boards. It's been this way since last season.

Lord knows what Sac could do to fix this. Short of benching Peja until he gets his act together on the glass (something I highly doubt Adelman is willing to do) I guess we're stuck with Peja working himself out of this funk. Or, maybe a Bee writer will post an article about his lack of rebounding and people will get on him about it and that will pick him up.
 
Rockmeister said:
Let's not just pick on Peja. This whole team needs to learn to play defense. I know Bibby sure could work on improving his defense and other players as well. How about Christie working on less TO's. He had 7 last night.

There's too many areas to work on rather than pointing a finger at one player....IMO.
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Why not pick on Peja? One of our major problems is rebounding and when a 6'10 guy rebounds like the way Peja does he surely needs to be picked upon :mad: .

And I have seen some players receive tirades inspite of being in difficult situations. So its all good.
 
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