PDA on the way out??
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I've actually been hoping that they'd bring Petrie on as a consultant. Low key, worked alongside a number of very different coaches, great talent evaluator, still has contacts in the league etc.
ockingsfan
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Iced Espresso
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Petrie sure has an impressive resume compared to PDA.
No Maloofery, teach Vlade everything he has, remember Petrie was often quietly on Adleman's side of things when the Maloofs were giving him a hard time. We heard little public noise too, Adleman refused to even take phone calls from the Maloofs for awhile and it was kept mostly in house.
I'm fine with that setup.
Exactly. There's a lot to critique Petrie over, especially his last few years but in terms of being an unassuming team player with experience it's harder to picture a better fit. And of course he was always a shrewd talent evaluator, especially for guys with good shooting and passing skills - exactly the kind of players George Karl wants.
Iced Espresso
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I have to agree, Peja was a fantastic pick, found Martin deeper in the draft, Wallace would have been a solid pick if not for the expansion draft.
He was able to get the coach what he needed when it mattered. A beautiful offense that would impress Vivek even, balance the proper way, with the proper locker room support.
If he wants in, seems a no brainer, I'm sure Vlade could work with him too, shared some good years, I'd assume mutual respect from Karl and Geoff with good communication. Vlade's knack for communication and international experience.
Seems ideal to me.
Rockmeister
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Good riddance PDA!!
Albatros
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And the evidence for this is.....
ockingsfan
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I doubt PDA leaves for AD job, unless he is willing to take a major pay cut. I believe PDA probably makes around 1 million per year to be GM.
I found an article that Maryland's last AD made about $400K in a 2010 article:
http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2...hletic-director-kevin-andersons-contract.html
It would be a huge step down from GM for an NBA franchise to the AD for a mid-level NCAA school.
So, unless PDA is fired, I can't see PDA leaving over half a million on the table to be an AD somewhere.
I found an article that Maryland's last AD made about $400K in a 2010 article:
http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2...hletic-director-kevin-andersons-contract.html
It would be a huge step down from GM for an NBA franchise to the AD for a mid-level NCAA school.
So, unless PDA is fired, I can't see PDA leaving over half a million on the table to be an AD somewhere.
Hoovtrain
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That would be amazing. Petrie was one of my favorite GM's (in any sport). His ending in Sac did not accurately define what an excellent GM he really was for most of his career.
kingjatt
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everywhere, part of the reason why Vlade was brought in was to unify everyone.
rainmaker
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I wanted to shoot PDA out of a cannon into the Pacific, but I guess having him on the other side on this continent is the next best thing.
I'd support bringing Petrie back in. Don't see any better GM candidates out there. And while I questioned a few of his moves I also think he was hamstrung by the Maloofs. A number of reports suggest he wanted no part of Jimmer as an example. But with money to spend he did build a top NBA team.
Culture and working relationships are important too and I'd assume Vlade and Petrie have a pretty good relationship. The backstabbing increasingly appears closer to being eliminated. The Vladfather at work.
Also more evidence suggesting that PDA/Mullin were tied at the hip and were a serious problem within our FO.
I'd support bringing Petrie back in. Don't see any better GM candidates out there. And while I questioned a few of his moves I also think he was hamstrung by the Maloofs. A number of reports suggest he wanted no part of Jimmer as an example. But with money to spend he did build a top NBA team.
Culture and working relationships are important too and I'd assume Vlade and Petrie have a pretty good relationship. The backstabbing increasingly appears closer to being eliminated. The Vladfather at work.
Also more evidence suggesting that PDA/Mullin were tied at the hip and were a serious problem within our FO.
Bricklayer
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Sources: Sacramento Kings GM Pete D'Alessandro - who lost authority to Vlade Divac - will be a significant candidate for St. John's AD job.
woohoo, I'm collecting the idiots who ****ed up our season over here.
I'm glad this was Woj who said this. Most dependable voice in the biz. Normally the vague "significant candidate for the job" type language would have me sniffing out baseless speculation. With Woj there's a good chance its more.
What I like about this is that if it happens we the fans may have helped slay this rodent. Well, he slayed himself. But he arrogantly dismissed the idea that merely dismissing a popular coach was going to cause any problem, did it with the help of Mullin, and then the massive fan and player revolt drove him out of power and may have chased him right out of town. I'd be satisfied with the scalps and willing to give Vivek another chance to start over if he's that reasonably responsive to the pressure. 9 months ago they're all hang 10ing together in a car somewhere.
bajaden
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We don't know the circumstances. But it's hardly a mess. Vlade is in charge. That hasn't changed. It's likely that they would have been happy to see him depart, but with the draft coming up and free agency on the horizon, they were OK with him hanging around for a while. I would assume that his main function now is as a numbers guy. Someone that knows the CBA. I think all parties concerned knew he would eventually move on, it was just a matter of when. There could be a little revenge factor involved here as well on Mullins side. I doubt he's happy about being forced out.
Bricklayer
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Not quite sure it counts as revenge when you take the other turd everybody wants gone with you on the way out the door.
ockingsfan
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I still can not really see PDA leaving on his own, for a lower prestige and lower paying job at a mid-level NCAA school.
If PDA was fired, then yes, I can see him taking this AD job. But, PDA called being a GM of a NBA franchise his dream job, I can't see him leaving it, unless assisted out the door (fired).
Even if PDA has to take a decreased role in the FO, he is still being paid double what he would get at Maryland.
Sorry, I can't see him leaving on his own. It won't be that easy.
Albatros
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i don't think "everywhere" counts as evidence.
I'm no Pete fan but some of the things he's accused of on here are pure fantasy.
IfAt1st
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Oh, but fan disapproval and constant efforts voicing detailed displeasure doesn't change anything in the NBA, don't you know that?
Bricklayer
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You may not understand the animal. I think even from his public statements him being in control, "I'm the GM, the buck stops here" type stuff was critical to him. Maybe even his very first being in control job anywhere. Drunk on power perhaps, or at least addicted to it. to finally have your own organization to run where you were Mr. D'Allesandro and reported to nobody but the owner? Heady stuff. And uncomfortable and humiliating if you are now drawing dirty looks and being ignored by the same people you used to have authority over.
It depends on just how much he has been demoted. If he's just lingering on now with no real authority, then he's already being fired and it may even be understood that he's basically being retained as a courtesy until he can find a new job.. And the stink from what he did is so bad that nobody else is hiring him to be their GM. If he goes elsewhere in the NBA he's back to being a basement gerbil or somebody's assistant. Maybe he could try to cross back over to become an assistant agent again. Or he could bail and go join a popular ally at St. John's, his alma mater where the stink will barely follow, and where he will again have absolute control. And my read is that's important to him.
That said, I'm not counting my chickens here. George Karl's presence here gives him a natural ally here as well. But bailing out to probably the highest stature job where you get to play boss again available to you, at your alma mater, with a same thinking ally already in place, is far from a crazy play if you're already out here.
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bajaden
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I could see Petrie taking on a role similar to the one that Jerry West has with the Warriors. I'm not sure that Petrie wants an official role such as GM. Remember, he was both GM and president of operations with the Kings. Meaning he answered to no one except the owners. Worked well as long as the owners had money. The fact that Vlade went and had lunch with Petrie for advice, when he was offered his current job, shows the respect he has for him. Say what you want about Petrie, but he ran a tight ship. Anyone who thought of a mutiny, was quickly thrown overboard.
bajaden
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Not quite sure it counts as revenge when you take the other turd everybody wants gone with you on the way out the door.
LOL!!! Great point! I needed a good chuckle......
PurpleHaze
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The picture is about to change - drastically.
kingjatt
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Not even going to argue with you man, there has been enough evidence around the malone firing to the declaration of Corbin as the coach for the rest of the year to the Karl hiring to point to an un-unified front office. If you payed attention to the circus that went on with this team over the past year(leaks,firings etc) its easy to see that there were factions with agendas pushing there own narrative in a power struggle.
kingjatt
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I only say its a mess because Pete should have been gone from the start, a new(experienced) GM should have been assigned. We should have not given PDA a chance to leave us high and dry less than a month before the draft with zero GM experience in our FO. Now we are making the same mistake again by bringing in a GM with a coach already in place.
SwishKing
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We need to get over that though. That mistake was made as soon as George Karl was hired. We were never gonna keep PDA after the absolute mess he made of last season. The sooner we get him out of here the better.
Bricklayer
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Given the stature of the coach, and that Vlade is now the ultimate basketball decisionmaker, any GM brought in at this point is likely going to me more akin to an assistant GM. Vlade is the GM. Just doesn't have the title.
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