Big Cuz 15
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battle of ex nba players sons. can't watch to see lakers vs kings and our bench guy goes at theirs. 
patrick ewing jr vs luke walton
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Arby's Roast Beef
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We should start a collection of NBA player's son. Hey, I hear Anthony_Mason_Jr. is available in the next draft. 
Peter_Gibbons
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Considering Jason Thompson comes of the bench at least for the first half of the season, we will have a much improved bench this year.
Thompson, Singletary, Garcia, Salmons, Sheldon.... not bad.
Thompson, Singletary, Garcia, Salmons, Sheldon.... not bad.
Peter_Gibbons
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BTW, I think PEJR will be a better player than Luke given the chance. Luke does nothing other than a few good plays every few games. He messes up a lot in crunch time too.
DocHolliday
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battle of ex nba players sons. can't watch to see lakers vs kings and our bench guy goes at theirs.
PEJR would just jump over Walton.
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AriesMar27
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how funny is it that both walton and ewing were 6'11-7'0 centers and their sons are 6'7-6'8 small forwards...
jordan was a 6'6 sg and his son is like 6'1....
jordan was a 6'6 sg and his son is like 6'1....
Sptsjunkie
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It will be interesting, they are two very different players. Walton got lazy this year, but had been a "good at everything, great at nothing" role player with a high basketball IQ. From the little I know about PEJR, he seems like a potential lock down wing defender, who can hit the Bowen corner 3 and also has a high bball IQ, but is not particularly strong at the other aspects of the game.
I think it is interesting that the Kings also brought in a second similar player to our Summer League team. I think it's a farily safe sign that we are looking to move Artest and develop someone who can provide us the same D, while we can replace his O from our other positions.
We should start a collection of NBA player's son. Hey, I hear Anthony_Mason_Jr. is available in the next draft.
I think I'll pass on him, but Stephen Curry piques my interest.
I'm expecting 8-10 minutes a game from Shelden, maybe less if SAR comes back healthy. (Discussion for another time?) Honestly, if Shelden would have shown something special in practice, I'm sure he would have gotten a bit more of a peek in game time.
DocHolliday
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I don't know if they were looking to move Artest as soon, since we drafted Ewing before Artest's comment, but you can see the similarity. Ewing is 6' 8" 240 I think I heard. Ron is 6' 7"-6' 8" and 255-260.
You can see the build similarity, although Ewing is way more athletic than Artest has ever been.
HighFlyingMonkey
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Ewing sounds like James Posey 2.0 to me. Great defense, knocks down open threes, hustle and athleticism off the bench, selflessly putting the team above himself...
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Too much junk food..
Peter_Gibbons
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Don't quote me on this but I think MJ's ex wife is only about 5'3". So that pulls down the height for their children. Probably same reason for Ewing Jr.
Arby's Roast Beef
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Sure about that?
Ewing, Jr. is James Posey without the jumpshot, without the basketball IQ, without the fundamentals, and without the defensive stopper type credentials.
It looks to me that Ewing Jr. is a homeless man's Gerald Wallace, only older and thus with that much less potential. Hard worker clearly, but something tells me had Davon Jefferson even showed up in the predraft camps he would've been that pick, because he fits that prototype...
Gary
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This is the second time I seen someone say Ewing can hit open 3s..
Ewing (at least at this point in his career) is not a 3pt threat. Not at all. Outside of about 12-15ft he has no real offensive game. I think people look at his percentage without seeing him play or something. It's amazing to see people talk about 3pt threat, and Ewing Jr. in the same sentence. He's not Posey, nor Wallace, and certainly not Walton.
Offensively think of a poor mans Jamario Moon.
bibbinator
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Regression to mean, in action.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Stands to reason senior Walton and Ewing dads should have been around 7'5
I guess you never know, but Yao Ming's dad is around 6'8 and his mom is like 6'4. Yao was married last year and his Chinese bride close to 6'3. Yao Ming Jr basketball star - 8'0!!
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NME
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If this trend continues, the next generation will be either jockeys or coxswains on a rowing crew!
ikillz0mbies
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I thought Gerald Wallace didn't have a jump shot in his first couple of years as a pro?
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AriesMar27
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CruzDude
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PE Jr is a fascinating guy. A GP kind of guy maybe like a 6-8 version of BJax or a quicker-leaper version of Bruce Bowen. Hard to know where he fits: NBA off the bench or a Euro starter. Personally, I'd like to see the kid make the team as a 2-3-4 bench sub when someone needs to be shut down. Then to see what offense he can contribute. A poor mans bench RonRon maybe.
That's why I like being at the summer league. One gets to see first hand the obvious and not so obvious abilities of the players.
That's why I like being at the summer league. One gets to see first hand the obvious and not so obvious abilities of the players.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Patrick Ewing Jr. is a slightly taller version of Renaldo Balkman. PE Jr. can jump higher. I'm not a big fan of Balkman.
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AriesMar27
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we'll see what happens with him, he doesnt look all that great on paper but if he can hit open threes with consistency then he'd be an okay bench player.... he sounds kinda like trevor ariza but with a better outside shot... which wouldnt be that bad of a thing to have. we need athleticism and hustling and thats what he brings....
Gary
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He cannot hit open 3s that's the problem. He's not a 3pt threat at all at this point and if anyone actually watched him play would know that he's not a 3pt threat. He wasn't in college and he's not going to be stepping back a couple feet in the NBA.
He might be able to learn this, but at this point he's about as much of a 3pt threat as Mikki Moore.
He hit 13 of 46 three point attempts last year (28.3%), which doesn't sound like the sort of consistency a team would want. I hope the guy can find a useful niche on our roster, but people should really stop talking about him as a threat from the perimeter, that's really not one of his stronger points.
Gary
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Wallace didn't but the talent level is totally different than Ewing Jr.
That's like me saying Elton Brand hasn't developed a 3pt shot yet so Ewing Jr. wont. It just doesn't make sense to compare a learned skill from player to player. Ewing Jr. might develop a 3pt shot, who knows... But right now his shot mechanics are pretty bad from outside, and he will need to be taught how to shoot it consistently correctly..
As it stands right now Ewing is not a 3pt threat at all, and he will need to learn to be or else he probably wont make it in the league. It's hard to make it on defense alone unless you are one of the best defensively which Ewing Jr. is not.
Gary
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Exactly. I am not sure where people are getting this. It's probably the same people that have never seen him, and look at his 40% from 3pt career college stats. Believe me, if we use him as a 3pt specialist then the Kings are going to lose a lot of games because of it lol.. His mechanics are about as bad as my 12 year old nieces.
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