Pacers' Jackson hit by car, fires handgun, police say

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Friday, October 6, 2006
Pacers' Jackson hit by car, fires handgun, police say
Associated Press


INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana Pacers player Stephen Jackson was hit in the mouth, struck by a car and fired a gun outside a strip club early Friday, police said.

Jackson, 28, told officers he fired his 9 mm pistol four or five times in the air in self-defense after he was punched and hit by a car outside the club, said Sgt. Matthew Mount, spokesman for the Indianapolis Police Department.

Jackson went up onto the hood of the car, Mount said.

There were no reports of anyone being struck by the gunfire, and police did not make any immediate arrests. Police are looking for the car that hit Jackson and others involved.

An argument involving patrons, Jackson and other members of the Pacers began inside the club, Mount said. The players said they left the club, but patrons followed them outside.

"At some point when leaving the club, a verbal altercation ensued that turned into a physical altercation," Mount said.

Jackson was limping but refused medical treatment at the scene, Mount said. He conferred with a Pacers trainer and sought medical treatment at a hospital.

The other Pacers at the scene were Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Jimmie Hunter.

Tinsley and Daniels also had guns in their cars, and all three players had permits for the weapons, Mount said, although Daniels' permit was issued in Florida.

The Pacers planned to release a statement about the incident later Friday. The Associated Press left messages seeking comment with Jackson's agent, Dan Fegan.

Jackson joined the Pacers in 2004 and averaged 16 points last season.

He was among Pacers players who threw punches at fans at the end of a nationally televised Indiana-Detroit game in 2004. He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault charges and was sentenced to probation and community service.

Last year, Jackson often argued with officials, complained when he was taken out of games and said he didn't care whether the Pacers traded him.

But during a recent press conference, Jackson hugged coach Rick Carlisle and sat by his side to answer questions -- an impromptu gesture the Pacers hoped would be a symbol of improved team chemistry this season.

Daniels played for the Dallas Mavericks last season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2615124&type=story
 
Tinsley and Daniels also had guns in their cars, and all three players had permits for the weapons, Mount said, although Daniels' permit was issued in Florida.

4 players are at a strip club at 3:00 in the morning and 3 of them have guns :confused:

Maybe I'm just naive but why the **** would they need a gun???
 
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The coach said they have to practice their "shooting" :)
Quick on the draw, aren't we, LOL.

What an idiot Jackson is. 4 or 5 bullets "up" into the air, means 4 or 5 bullets coming "down" out of the air. People can get killed by such bullets. Guess its a good thing it was 3 AM. :rolleyes:
 
Quick on the draw, aren't we, LOL.

What an idiot Jackson is. 4 or 5 bullets "up" into the air, means 4 or 5 bullets coming "down" out of the air. People can get killed by such bullets. Guess its a good thing it was 3 AM. :rolleyes:

Can they really? Didn't even know that. Makes sense I guess.
 
wow, thats gotta suck for the pacer organziation...why dont the just release a stament saying all our players have bad temperments and carry loaded weapons on them or in their vehicles, but please put this aside, and continue to support are team, as we provide you and your community with love and respect.

Love, DOnnie Walsh
 
Quick on the draw, aren't we, LOL.

What an idiot Jackson is. 4 or 5 bullets "up" into the air, means 4 or 5 bullets coming "down" out of the air. People can get killed by such bullets. Guess its a good thing it was 3 AM. :rolleyes:


i dont think so, what about in the movies when the bad guys always point their guns up in the air and fire off like a thusand bullets, wouldnt they die man
 
i dont think so, what about in the movies when the bad guys always point their guns up in the air and fire off like a thusand bullets, wouldnt they die man


As Warhawk pointed out, it can happen, It's actually one of the things they covered when I took my hunters safety course. (wow, that was awhile back) It's one of the reasons they tell you to keep a loaded gun pointed down and never point it in the air.
 
Does this mean that Jackson will have to serve an entire lenghty suspension if he gets into another brawl (like Artest had to, because of his past)? Jackson is quickly crafting a resume that looks worse than Artest's.
 
Quick on the draw, aren't we, LOL.

What an idiot Jackson is. 4 or 5 bullets "up" into the air, means 4 or 5 bullets coming "down" out of the air. People can get killed by such bullets. Guess its a good thing it was 3 AM. :rolleyes:

Thats an interesting theroy. Never thought it could.
 
So be sure you don't cuss out Ron Artest outside "Centerfolds" at 3 am and then back into him with your car!!!

Important Safety Tip!
 
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Quick on the draw, aren't we, LOL.

What an idiot Jackson is. 4 or 5 bullets "up" into the air, means 4 or 5 bullets coming "down" out of the air. People can get killed by such bullets. Guess its a good thing it was 3 AM. :rolleyes:

Mythbusters had something about that. Rotation of the earth all that science stuff I don't want to get into.

As for the story, I am not at all bothered by the 3am at a strip bar... thats what some people do and I am fine with it. I am troubled by the fact he had a gun obviously on his possession and decided to fire it. If that was any of us we would be in Jail right now
 
And to think some of you actually wanted the Kings to trade for Stephen Jackson earlier this offseason when his name was brought up in trade talk for Bonzi.
 
And to think some of you actually wanted the Kings to trade for Stephen Jackson earlier this offseason when his name was brought up in trade talk for Bonzi.


Don't count me among the group that wanted Jackson. I cannot stomach the guy....either on or off the court.
 
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http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061007/SPORTS04/610070504

Shooting seems justified, police say
Evidence so far appears to paint Jackson, teammates as victims in club incident
By Vic Ryckaert
vic.ryckaert@indystar.com
October 7, 2006

Indiana Pacers forward Stephen Jackson appeared to be justified when he fired five gunshots outside a Westside strip club early Friday, police said.
"Right now, from all the evidence we've gathered," said Sgt. Matthew Mount, an Indianapolis Police Department spokesman, it looks like Jackson and three teammates "were the victims in this case."


Jackson, Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Jimmie "Snap" Hunter were involved in the shooting incident Friday morning at Club Rio, 5054 W. 38th St.


Jackson fired five shots from a 9 mm handgun after a man punched him in the face and tried to run him over with a car outside the club at 3 a.m., Mount said.


Marion County prosecutors will evaluate the evidence and make the ultimate decision on whether Jackson or his teammates will face charges. A spokesman for the office declined to comment Friday.


Jackson's actions appear to be on safe legal ground, said Indianapolis defense attorney Jack Crawford.


Everyone, Crawford said, has a right to use deadly force to protect himself or another person from harm.


"The question is, did he reasonably believe he or others were still in danger?" Crawford said. "It can't be an act of revenge or retaliation. It has to be to protect himself."


The incident began with an exchange of words inside the club and spilled into the parking lot as the Pacers tried to leave.


One man slugged Jackson in the jaw, bloodying his mouth. The other men got into a blue Oldsmobile, and the car struck Jackson.


"We're not sure if he just went over the hood or he went over the whole car," Mount said.


Jackson suffered bruises and, after the incident, he went to the hospital, where he had stitches to close cuts on his mouth. He was not seriously hurt but rested during the team's afternoon practice.


Jackson told officers he fired all five shots into the air, an account police are still checking out. Officers seized his handgun and guns found in the cars of Tinsley and Daniels. Police said all have valid permits.


Part of the incident was captured on Club Rio's security camera, Mount said. The grainy video shows Jackson firing one shot in the air, then getting struck by the car, Mount said. The other events occurred outside the camera's view.


Police also found a small amount of marijuana -- about enough to make one or two joints -- on the passenger side of Tinsley's car.


No one was arrested, Mount said, because police were unable to link the drug to any particular person.


"There were three to four individuals in that car," Mount said. "We don't have a way of determining who that belongs to."


Technically, experts say, officers could have arrested Tinsley and anyone else riding in his car for possession of marijuana. That happens often in cases where police capture cars loaded with pounds of illegal drugs.


But in cases where police find one or two joints, experts say, police and prosecutors typically feel the misdemeanor charge is not worth the expense of trying to prove the case in court.


Despite the intense public interest, Mount said IPD officers are handling the investigation as they would any other case.


"We've got to treat them like everybody else," Mount said. "The first time you don't, your credibility is going to be questioned not only by them, but by everybody."


The four players involved and the team declined to comment on the incident Friday.


In a Sept. 13 interview posted on Pacers.com, Jackson said he has a positive attitude and wants to be a role model for his teammates.


"More than us playing hard and being young guys with a lot of energy, we've got to be smart," Jackson said. "We've got to make smart decisions on the court and off the court. We've got to be smarter as far as leading the young guys and watching what we do."
 
Thanks for the info, Hicks. This could have ended very badly. Jackson fired warning shots into the air - and not into the thugs who attacked him and his teammates.

I'm not about to judge him on this incident because I don't walk in his world. I do look at the fact his gun is legal as a strong factor in his favor, along with the shots fired away from the assailants.

Sometimes I think people are just looking for reasons to bash players. Yes, they do a lot of stupid things. I don't think this was one of those times.
 
Thanks for the info, Hicks. This could have ended very badly. Jackson fired warning shots into the air - and not into the thugs who attacked him and his teammates.

I'm not about to judge him on this incident because I don't walk in his world. I do look at the fact his gun is legal as a strong factor in his favor, along with the shots fired away from the assailants.

Sometimes I think people are just looking for reasons to bash players. Yes, they do a lot of stupid things. I don't think this was one of those times.

I think you are right. I was angry with Jax as first, but I think its just because hes done so much to make fans easily agitated by anything he does. I'll try to forget this though - seems like he was honestly a victim.
 
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