Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
DaMan said:
Clear up minutes for Bogut and Gadzuric -- they might have one more center than they need right now, and one less post scorer.
LPs deal is actually pretty much the same thing I was thinking of, especially since we know Milwaulkee was the one team that really pursued SAr in the offseason (of course not sure how his attitude would be going there after having already rejected them).
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
On the Reggie Evans front, apparently the Sonics are looking for a backup PG. Like I mentioned before, maybe Jason Hart could get it done!
Diabeticwonder
Bench
The Sonics know what we know...Hart is horrible. Right now I would trade Hart for a 2nd rounder in 2010.SacTownKid said:
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Diabeticwonder said:
Well, Hart did well last season when he got time. He hardly gets that much time to get into any sort of rhythm. I don't think a lot of teams have as much use for a guy like him as we do as well.
Diabeticwonder
Bench
Eddie is making like $835,000 this year and is on a two year deal. Get this...Hart is making almost twice what Eddie is making. Hart has a two year deal, but after this year there is a player option. I just hope that his poor decision making carries over from the court to the business side of things and he declines the option. There is no way he's opting out.Wuster said:
Diabeticwonder
Bench
Very true, but there is no way that more time would cure what ailes him. He's not good.SacTownKid said:
ParniValjak
All-Star
Right now I would trade Hart AND our first rounder for someone's last pick in the second round and sometime in 2100.Diabeticwonder said:
Thats how desperate I am to get rid off him. Now we realise just how spoilt we were all these years with B-Jax coming off the bench as a back up PG.
nbrans
All-Star
LPKingsFan said:
This works. There's 0% chance of this happening midseason, but it works, and makes decent sense for all involved.
Sacramento sends Shareef Abdur-Rahim to Milwaukee
Sacramento sends Brian Skinner and Francisco Garcia to Chicago
Milwaukee sends Jamaal Magloire to Chicago
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler and Othella Harrington to Sacramento
Chicago sends Eric Piatkowski to Milwaukee
New Sacramento:
PG: Bibby, Hart, Price
SG: Wells, Martin
SF: Artest, Corliss
PF: Chandler, Kenny
C: Miller, Sampson
Sacramento gets a young defensive presence on the interior.
New Milwaukee:
PG: Ford, Williams
SG: Redd, Welsch
SF: Simmons, Kukoc
PF: SAR, Smith
C: Bogut, Gadzuric
Milwaukee gets a starting power forward and moves Bogut to his natural position.
New Chicago:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon
SG: Gordon, Garcia
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Sweetney, Songaila
C: Magloire, Skinner
Chicago gets a new starting center, a promising swing man and a backup center. This would only happen if they think Chandler won't justify his big deal. Of course, Chicago has a history of jumping the gun on getting rid of their young talent, so you never know.
Elektrik
Starter
SacDoug said:Greg Ostertag just got suspended indefinately. How about we trade Jamal Sampson and Corliss Williamson for him. One more player in the King's player rehabilitation program shouldn't hurt.
Been there and done that. Didn't work before. Didn't work at Utah and won't work here again.
nbrans
All-Star
Trade idea o' the day (as always, works on RealGM):
Kings send Brad Miller, Brian Skinner, Corliss Williamson, Francisco Garcia, Jason Hart to Chicago
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler, Ben Gordon, Tim Thomas, 1st Round Pick to Sacramento
New Kings:
PG: Bibby, Price
SG: Bonzi, Gordon
SF: Artest, Martin
PF: SAR, KT
C: Chandler, Sampson
Why the Kings make the deal: Miller is slow, he can't jump, he can't rebound. Teams are onto his passing ability and jumpshooting and are crowding him to take that away, and Brad doesn't have a remedy. He's 29 years old and is likely at his peak. In exchange for him and 2 out of the Philly 3, and Garcia the Kings get a 23 year old defensive monster along with the most Bobby Jackson-esque player since Bobby Jackson in Ben Gordon. The Kings keep SAR's low post presence and gain rebounding, shotblocking and good one-on-one defense in Chandler. Not only that, the Kings get cap relief in Tim Thomas that they could use to re-sign Bonzi (or use in a S&T), and use the full MLE on a proper backup center without getting into tax territory. And a 1st Rounder. And the Kings get rid of Hart. Yay!
New Bulls:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon, Pargo
SG: Garcia, Basden
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Sweetney, Corliss
C: Miller, Skinner
Why the Bulls make the deal:
Size. The Bulls get an All-Star center in Miller, who could be very effective playing with their youngsters, and a promising defensive-minded shooting guard in Garcia. They get a backup center in Skinner, and Corliss' deal expires after next season, when there will be a promising free agent class. But the real centerpiece is Miller.
Kings send Brad Miller, Brian Skinner, Corliss Williamson, Francisco Garcia, Jason Hart to Chicago
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler, Ben Gordon, Tim Thomas, 1st Round Pick to Sacramento
New Kings:
PG: Bibby, Price
SG: Bonzi, Gordon
SF: Artest, Martin
PF: SAR, KT
C: Chandler, Sampson
Why the Kings make the deal: Miller is slow, he can't jump, he can't rebound. Teams are onto his passing ability and jumpshooting and are crowding him to take that away, and Brad doesn't have a remedy. He's 29 years old and is likely at his peak. In exchange for him and 2 out of the Philly 3, and Garcia the Kings get a 23 year old defensive monster along with the most Bobby Jackson-esque player since Bobby Jackson in Ben Gordon. The Kings keep SAR's low post presence and gain rebounding, shotblocking and good one-on-one defense in Chandler. Not only that, the Kings get cap relief in Tim Thomas that they could use to re-sign Bonzi (or use in a S&T), and use the full MLE on a proper backup center without getting into tax territory. And a 1st Rounder. And the Kings get rid of Hart. Yay!
New Bulls:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon, Pargo
SG: Garcia, Basden
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Sweetney, Corliss
C: Miller, Skinner
Why the Bulls make the deal:
Size. The Bulls get an All-Star center in Miller, who could be very effective playing with their youngsters, and a promising defensive-minded shooting guard in Garcia. They get a backup center in Skinner, and Corliss' deal expires after next season, when there will be a promising free agent class. But the real centerpiece is Miller.
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Kingsroots
G-League
Hey everyone, I know this is my first post and I am already talking about a trade, however I feel this may be a pretty legitimate way to get back what we are looking for as far as a little more defense/rebounding & some scoring punch off the bench. I checked realgm and this is what I got...
Sacramento Trade Breakdown Outgoing
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 14.1 minutes
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 23.9 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 37.3 minutes
Incoming
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
10.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 24.0 minutes
Zaza Pachulia
6-11 C from Georgia (Foreign)
11.3 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.3 minutes
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +13.2 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and -0.3 apg.
Atlanta Trade Breakdown Outgoing
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
10.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 24.0 minutes
Zaza Pachulia
6-11 C from Georgia (Foreign)
11.3 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.3 minutes
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.4 minutes
Incoming
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 14.1 minutes
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 23.9 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 37.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -13.2 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
What does everyone think? Also, my posts may be few and far between but they WILL be more informative than this in the future.
Sacramento Trade Breakdown Outgoing
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 14.1 minutes
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 23.9 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 37.3 minutes
Incoming
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
10.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 24.0 minutes
Zaza Pachulia
6-11 C from Georgia (Foreign)
11.3 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.3 minutes
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +13.2 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and -0.3 apg.
Atlanta Trade Breakdown Outgoing
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
10.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 24.0 minutes
Zaza Pachulia
6-11 C from Georgia (Foreign)
11.3 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.3 minutes
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.4 minutes
Incoming
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 14.1 minutes
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 23.9 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 37.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -13.2 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
What does everyone think? Also, my posts may be few and far between but they WILL be more informative than this in the future.
OvechKiN
G-League
To Detroit:
Garcia
Thomas
1st Rounder '07
To Sac:
Darko Milicic
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To Toronto:
Miller
Hart
Sampson
Price
To Sac:
Roko Ukic
1st Rounder '06
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this means:
Bibby / Ukic
Wells / Martin
Artest / Williamson
SAR
Milicic / Skinner
Garcia
Thomas
1st Rounder '07
To Sac:
Darko Milicic
--------------------------------
To Toronto:
Miller
Hart
Sampson
Price
To Sac:
Roko Ukic
1st Rounder '06
---------------------------------
this means:
Bibby / Ukic
Wells / Martin
Artest / Williamson
SAR
Milicic / Skinner
LoungeLizard
Starter
OvechKiN said:
How bout we trade OvechKiN for a box of Junior mints and some Lukewarm Pepsi.
LoungeLizard
Starter
We don't need to trade. The guy we need is out there. Otis Thorpe would be the perfect fit. I bet the dude can still ball, plus he can retire as a King like he always should have.
KingCookie
Bench
KT and Hart for Chris Andersen...nope...wait...scratch that...
BK_KingsFan7
G-League
Here's a trade that I think helps ou weaknesses alot:
Shareef Abdur Rahim
Kenny Thomas
FOR
Jamaal Magloire
Charlie Bell
Jiri Welsch
New Roster:
C Magloire/Skinner/Sampson
PF Miller/Williamson
SF Artest/Garcia/Welsch
SG Wells/Martin
PG Bibby/Bell/Hart/Price
We get a good shotblocker and a terrific rebounder in Magloire, he dosen't really look for his shot which means more shots for Bibby, Artest, Miller, and Bonzi to go around, and Miller can move to the 4 where he is more effective offensively. Now alot of people don't know this guy Charlie Bell. He hasn't gotten alot of minutes in Milwaukee behind Mo Williams but from the times I've seen him play, I think he is someone we can use to provide a scoring punch off the bench. He reminds me alot of Bobby Jackson. He is a combo guard who can score from pretty much anywhere on the floor and is a good pesky defender. Welsh is just a filler and a small expiring contract, but I would hope we keep his ugly mug on the IL because he is terrible.
This is also a good trade for Miluakee IMO because they are apparently trying to move Magloire so that Bogut and Gadzuric can get more minutes and they also wanted to get SAR in the offseason. Thomas is thrown in so that the contracts match up.
Shareef Abdur Rahim
Kenny Thomas
FOR
Jamaal Magloire
Charlie Bell
Jiri Welsch
New Roster:
C Magloire/Skinner/Sampson
PF Miller/Williamson
SF Artest/Garcia/Welsch
SG Wells/Martin
PG Bibby/Bell/Hart/Price
We get a good shotblocker and a terrific rebounder in Magloire, he dosen't really look for his shot which means more shots for Bibby, Artest, Miller, and Bonzi to go around, and Miller can move to the 4 where he is more effective offensively. Now alot of people don't know this guy Charlie Bell. He hasn't gotten alot of minutes in Milwaukee behind Mo Williams but from the times I've seen him play, I think he is someone we can use to provide a scoring punch off the bench. He reminds me alot of Bobby Jackson. He is a combo guard who can score from pretty much anywhere on the floor and is a good pesky defender. Welsh is just a filler and a small expiring contract, but I would hope we keep his ugly mug on the IL because he is terrible.
This is also a good trade for Miluakee IMO because they are apparently trying to move Magloire so that Bogut and Gadzuric can get more minutes and they also wanted to get SAR in the offseason. Thomas is thrown in so that the contracts match up.
ForlornKing
Starter
nbrans said:
You have got to be joking. Take out Gordon and Bulls STILL don't do it.
ForlornKing
Starter
nbrans said:
You're right. I can never seperate the realistic proposals from the one's that make us contenders.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
I just read on RealGM.com that J.R. Smith of the Hornets is on the trading block, and could potentially be moved by the Feb. 23rd trading deadline.
So since I am enamored with his potential, here is a very very simple trade proposal.
Kings Get...
J.R. Smith... 9.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.4 apg
Hornets Get...
Kevin Martin... 8.7 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg
Change in Team Outlook... +0.6 ppg, -1.1 rpg, +0.2 apg
Potential for potential.
And I like J.R.'s potential mopre than Martin's.
So since I am enamored with his potential, here is a very very simple trade proposal.
Kings Get...
J.R. Smith... 9.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.4 apg
Hornets Get...
Kevin Martin... 8.7 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg
Change in Team Outlook... +0.6 ppg, -1.1 rpg, +0.2 apg
Potential for potential.
And I like J.R.'s potential mopre than Martin's.
