Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)

[King4Life]

here's another trade idea ...though Sac will likely have to give up more than Bibby and Skinner to get Pierce ..



Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
20.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.5 apg in 37.5 minutes

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.6 minutes


Incoming

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.7 apg in 39.2 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 15.8 minutes

Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
21.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.1 minutes

Change in team outlook: +15.9 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.


Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.7 apg in 39.2 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 15.8 minutes


Incoming

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
20.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.5 apg in 37.5 minutes

Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.6 minutes

Change in team outlook: -9.3 ppg, -3.1 rpg, and -0.7 apg.


Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Incoming

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Change in team outlook: -4.3 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +1.0 apg.


L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
21.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.1 minutes

Incoming

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Change in team outlook: -2.3 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -0.3 apg.


That would give us a starting line-up of ..

PG-Marcus Banks

SG-Corey Maggette

SF-Paul Pierce

PF-Shareef Abdur Rahim/Kenny Thomas

C-Brad Miller


The Corey Maggette trade can likely be pulled off now, since Indiana may take Bonzi and the Clippers want Artest. I know Maggette's hurt, but this season is a goner anyway. Maybe the Kings can trade Peja or someone else for a better PG or PF. Drew Gooden can rebound and he will be available by the end of the season.

 

[SacTownKid]

here's another trade idea ...though Sac will likely have to give up more than Bibby and Skinner to get Pierce ..



Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
20.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.5 apg in 37.5 minutes

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.6 minutes


Incoming

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.7 apg in 39.2 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 15.8 minutes

Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
21.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.1 minutes

Change in team outlook: +15.9 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.


Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.7 apg in 39.2 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 15.8 minutes


Incoming

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
20.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.5 apg in 37.5 minutes

Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.6 minutes

Change in team outlook: -9.3 ppg, -3.1 rpg, and -0.7 apg.


Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Incoming

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Change in team outlook: -4.3 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +1.0 apg.


L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
21.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.1 minutes

Incoming

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Change in team outlook: -2.3 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -0.3 apg.


That would give us a starting line-up of ..

PG-Marcus Banks

SG-Corey Maggette

SF-Paul Pierce

PF-Shareef Abdur Rahim/Kenny Thomas

C-Brad Miller


The Corey Maggette trade can likely be pulled off now, since Indiana may take Bonzi and the Clippers want Artest. I know Maggette's hurt, but this season is a goner anyway. Maybe the Kings can trade Peja or someone else for a better PG or PF. Drew Gooden can rebound and he will be available by the end of the season.

I count 3 iso players in our starting lineup. Adelman isn't still the coach is he? He would have his work cut out for him to teach these guys to work in the Princeton together.

But the talent we get would be unreal. We do give up a lot too though.

 

[ParniValjak]

That would give us a starting line-up of ..

PG-Marcus Banks

SG-Corey Maggette

SF-Paul Pierce

PF-Shareef Abdur Rahim/Kenny Thomas

C-Brad Miller


The Corey Maggette trade can likely be pulled off now, since Indiana may take Bonzi and the Clippers want Artest. I know Maggette's hurt, but this season is a goner anyway. Maybe the Kings can trade Peja or someone else for a better PG or PF. Drew Gooden can rebound and he will be available by the end of the season.

And your frontcourt still has more holes in it than swiss cheese

Our biggest problem is our interior and if we are to do anything then that would be the very first area we need to look at. Our back court is pretty solid but our front court is by far our biggest weakness.

 

[Packt]

I've commented on other people's deals, I guess it's my turn to put something on the table.

Orlando Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Fran Vazquez
6-11 from Spain
No games yet played in 2005/06

Keyon Dooling
6-3 PG from Missouri
7.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 17.7 minutes

Grant Hill
6-8 SF from Duke
16.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 34.1 minutes

Incoming

Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.8 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 14.2 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 22.1 minutes

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
16.5 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +4.6 ppg, +6.3 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.8 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 14.2 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
8.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 22.1 minutes

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
16.5 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.2 minutes

Incoming

Fran Vazquez
6-11 from Spain
No games yet played in 2005/06

Keyon Dooling
6-3 PG from Missouri
7.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 17.7 minutes

Grant Hill
6-8 SF from Duke
16.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 34.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, -6.3 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

The goal would be to get Fran Vasquez. He was Orlando's first round pick this summer (11th overall), but decided not to play in the US. I made comments about how ridiculous the whole situation was. Really, why enter the draft if you're not willing to make that commitment; you're wasting a team's pick. Orlando was supposedly very high on him, and was very disappointed with his decision to not come over. I haven't heard anything since, and though I'm sure Orlando's stance on Vasquez hasn't change, maybe a guy like KT who can produce right away, will tempt them.

They would have to play Dwight at the 5, but KT's hustle, jumper and rebounding should compliment Dwight's power game. Cato and Battie will both be FA's this summer and I think having another guaranteed contract on the front court can't hurt.

Everybody else is position/contract for position/contract. Grant Hill would just be a rental, as would Peja. If they look like they fit in, you can look into things in the summer. It'd be nice to have a guy like Hill to mentor Garcia and Martin. Though I'm not sure you can learn much in such a short amount of time. And with Hart and Dooling: Dooling's more athletic, Hart is a better defender, but you pick your poison with either. Both are similar in size and can play both guard positions with us.

It might seem like the deal leans heavily in Orlando's favor because we don't get a young small forward with upside, but if Vasquez develops into a borderline All-star at the 4-5 spot, it'd be worth it. That is if Vasquez plays for us. I'm not sure what's going on with him in Europe, but I don't think he's having a great year. He supposedly signed a two year deal with a club and has been up and down. Maybe our European members can clue us into how Vasquez has been doing.

In some ways it looks like an out of the blue Petrie deal, with lots of question marks, but yet, I'm not sure Petrie would gamble Peja away for an unknown quantity in Vasquez.

 

[SacTownKid]

I have heard there are serious doubts that Vasquez ever even makes it to the NBA. He signed a big deal with a foreign team which means a huge buyout.

I kind of like the sound of Grant Hill on the team. If he is healthy he could be more than a rental for us.

 

[King4Life]

And your frontcourt still has more holes in it than swiss cheese

Our biggest problem is our interior and if we are to do anything then that would be the very first area we need to look at. Our back court is pretty solid but our front court is by far our biggest weakness.

I agree, but it's looking near impossible for the Kings to get a quality PF/C who rebounds and does most of his work in the paint. Miller is a good Center. His rebounding and defense is weak, but he passes and shoots well. He needs someone else who brings what he doesn't. I don't see us getting anyone like Elton Brand, Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, Ben Wallace, etc. That's why it's important that we bring some athleticism, rebounding, and defense in whatevever positions we can. Pierce and Maggette would bring those skills. However we would still need a decent PF like maybe a Drew Gooden to help Brad in the paint.

Adelman has done great for the Kings in the past, but I don't expect him to be the coach next year unless they make it to the 4th or 5th seed in the playoffs.

 

[ParniValjak]

I agree, but it's looking near impossible for the Kings to get a quality PF/C who rebounds and does most of his work in the paint. Miller is a good Center. His rebounding and defense is weak, but he passes and shoots well. He needs someone else who brings what he doesn't. I don't see us getting anyone like Elton Brand, Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, Ben Wallace, etc. That's why it's important that we bring some athleticism, rebounding, and defense in whatevever positions we can. Pierce and Maggette would bring those skills. However we would still need a decent PF like maybe a Drew Gooden to help Brad in the paint.

Adelman has done great for the Kings in the past, but I don't expect him to be the coach next year unless they make it to the 4th or 5th seed in the playoffs.

Drw Gooden doesn't bring to the table what Miller doesn't. In fact they bring a lot of similar things. Neither is a shotblocker, neither is a low post threat, both are more of a mid-range type players.

The only thing that Gooden brings that Miller doesn't have is athleticism and a better rebounding. His defence sucks as much as Miller's.

 

[King4Life]

Drw Gooden doesn't bring to the table what Miller doesn't. In fact they bring a lot of similar things. Neither is a shotblocker, neither is a low post threat, both are more of a mid-range type players.

The only thing that Gooden brings that Miller doesn't have is athleticism and a better rebounding. His defence sucks as much as Miller's.

I wasn't referring to Gooden specifically as a big help defensively. Maggette and Pierce are bigger help in that area. If the Kings can find a PF/C who is athletic, can shotblock, score in the paint, rebound, and play defense, that would be ideal. Unfortunately, they are going to settle with a player with some of those skills, since Garnett isn't available. Given that fact, I think it's best to load up whatever positions you can with the best all-around talent.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Trade Skinner for whoever Adelman won't bury underneath the bench; it's the Ostertag problem all over again...

 

[vj9999]

Trade Skinner for whoever Adelman won't bury underneath the bench; it's the Ostertag problem all over again...

Just hope that Skinner doesn't injure him self at home in the kitchen before than

 

[JJ22L]

Trade Hart and Peja now. You know what..trade Jason Hart just to get rid of him. I dont care if we let him go for nothing, trade him for Gerald Green, who you ask? Exactly.

 

[ParniValjak]

I wasn't referring to Gooden specifically as a big help defensively. Maggette and Pierce are bigger help in that area. If the Kings can find a PF/C who is athletic, can shotblock, score in the paint, rebound, and play defense, that would be ideal. Unfortunately, they are going to settle with a player with some of those skills, since Garnett isn't available. Given that fact, I think it's best to load up whatever positions you can with the best all-around talent.

Our bigest problem is the interior defence. Paul and Maggatte are NOT going to fix that.

This team would be better off with someone like Udonis Haslem (for example) than they would be with Gooden. Gooden might be a better overall player but he doesn't bring to the table what we really need. He is just another type of player that we already have.

The team you came up with will still have exactly the same problems defensively as they do now. Every opponent will have a field day in the paint against us and we will lose the rebounding battle on regular basis like we do now.

You get one player that will play defence in the paint and all of a sudden the current Kings are a much better team.

 

[Packt]

Trade Hart and Peja now. You know what..trade Jason Hart just to get rid of him. I dont care if we let him go for nothing, trade him for Gerald Green, who you ask? Exactly.

Gerald Green is hardly a nobody. The hype on him was pretty loud pre-draft, and he was projected to be a top pick. He's been regulated to the D-league, but Hart for Green would be a steal for us.

 

[Rowdyone]

Demand Artest honor his contract and after we obtain his rights: Peja to Indy for Artest
Artest to Denver for Nene and Watson.

Plugs a big hole for us, adds depth, give PT to youngsters.
Denver was on Artest's list of preferences, I believe.

 

[nbrans]

I'm going out on a limb and predicting that Bonzi Wells will be traded before the deadline.

We're all dying to see how Bonzi and Artest will play together, and clearly the Kings suddenly have one of the toughest 2/3 combos in the league. Bonzi's shown clutchness, toughness and intangibles.

However, as John Holinger pointed out, even with Bonzi's $8 imllion going off the books in the offseason the Kings already have a payroll of $57 million. The luxury tax threshold is $61.7 million this year, and even if it's not going to kick in, it's doubtful the Maloofs are going to want to go too far into tax territory, if at all. So it's highly likely that Bonzi would walk in the offseason because the Kings can't afford to either sign him outright or take on salary in a sign and trade.

The rise of Kevin Martin makes this a bit more easy to swallow. While Kevin is still not the player Bonzi is and he's prone to disappearing, he may be a better fit for the Kings now that they have Artest. Artest and Bonzi have very similar games -- midrange, post-up, dirty-work offensive games, and they sort of duplicate each other (clearly Artest is much better). Kevin Martin is a different type of player. He has turned himself into a shockingly good outside shooter -- 44% from three point range in the 17 games he's started, and can operate from the corners and feed off of the other players, whereas Bonzi needs to be close to the basket.

Perhaps more importantly, Martin is more versatile on the defensive end, since he has the quickness to guard both shooting guards and point guards. It's very doubtful Bonzi would have been able to contain Marbury the way Martin did last night. Martin is so quick he will be able to guard the better of the 1/2 player on the opposing team and mask some of Bibby's defensive liabilities. Bonzi, while an ok defender, doesn't give you that option.

So.... who can the Kings get for Bonzi?

Here are two possibilities:

1) Bonzi and Garcia to Denver for Watson and Nene.

Bonzi would give Denver the shooting guard they lack. I think Garcia would probably have to be included in the deal, otherwise Denver would run the risk of losing Bonzi in the offseason and have nothing to show for the trade. Plus Denver needs a shooter, and that is allegedly one of Garcia's strengths. The Kings would get one of the best backup point guards in the league, and Nene, who they would then be able to sign as a restricted free agent, probably in the $5 million per year range, putting the Kings right around the cap threshold.

2) Bonzi to Cleveland for Drew Gooden and change

Cleveland would get Bonzi to soften the blow of losing Hughes for so long, and then might not re-sign him in the offseason to take the cap money. With Marshall and Verejao they are rumored to be tired of Gooden, who would give the Kings some rebounding. He's a restricted free agent, so the Kings would have to re-sign him in the offseason.

Most teams are pretty set at shooting guard and there doesn't seem to be too many teams dumping salary. All the same, I don't think the Kings can afford to lose Bonzi for nothing.

 

[nbrans]

One more trade possibility: Garcia for Anderson Verejao straight up. Verejao is healthy again, a great bargain, an extremely active rebounder and defender, and he's only 23. Cleveland could use some perimeter help with Hughes down, and they get some potential with Garcia.

 

[VF21]

I, in direct oppostion to nbrans, do not see Petrie pulling the trigger on a deal that sends Bonzi anywhere. At least not until he's seen how this new team has a chance to play together.

Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, SAR and Miller is a combination that could go far.

I seem them at least getting a chance to show what they can do. And considering the way the Maloofs have talked the past 24 hours, I don't see them overly concerned about the financial side of things as they currently stand. They've spent major bucks before and I honestly believe they're going to give this current assemblage a good chance before changing it.

If anything, one or more of the three flexible pieces might end up leaving for draft picks, pocket change or any offer they might be able to get...

 

[Troy]

I agree with VF, we have to see how Bonzi and Artest play together, that's why it's so important to get Bonzi back in the lineup ASAP so they can be evuated together and give enough time to work out a trade if necessary before 2/23. The Maloofs have $$$, I think they can pay Bonzi if they like what they see in the new chemistry, they are not poor by any means. This also would just slightly be over the salary cap. Isn't NY like $120M right now? I think that's what I heard last night, wow and they suck too!!!

Nbrans, good points. I didn't know where we were with the salary cap and how much the cap was. Cannot we keep our SG already??? Christie for Cat, now Bonzi. I really hope we can keep Bonzi. I wished last year that the Cat would stick. Just seeing Bonzi post up like a forward and him slamming the ball down make me so happy.

 

[DavisAggie]

I agree with VF, we have to see how Bonzi and Artest play together, that's why it's so important to get Bonzi back in the lineup ASAP so they can be evuated together and give enough time to work out a trade if necessary before 2/23. The Maloofs have $$$, I think they can pay Bonzi if they like what they see in the new chemistry, they are not poor by any means. This also would just slightly be over the salary cap. Isn't NY like $120M right now? I think that's what I heard last night, wow and they suck too!!!

Nbrans, good points. I didn't know where we were with the salary cap and how much the cap was. Cannot we keep our SG already??? Christie for Cat, now Bonzi. I really hope we can keep Bonzi. I wished last year that the Cat would stick. Just seeing Bonzi post up like a forward and him slamming the ball down make me so happy.

No joke, but can somebody contact GP and tell him that Bonzi needs to be resigned (given the fact Bonzi and Artest can play together). Does GP have an email address? A phone number? Anything?

I didn't mind watching CAT walk, and I'm just now getting over the fact we did not resign JJ, but not resigning Bonzi would hurt for many, many years.

Bibby\Artest\Bonzi\Miller\Skinner

 

[VF21]

I don't think Petrie is going to just let Bonzi walk. He traded Bobby Jackson for him, so that would indicate a certain level of interest in seeing him succeed. We're getting a little gun-shy around here, I think...

At this point, as I mentioned above, I fully expect the Kings to wait for Bonzi to get back on the court, and then watch and see what develops. It's gonna be interesting, to say the least...

 

[SacDoug]

Greg Ostertag just got suspended indefinately. How about we trade Jamal Sampson and Corliss Williamson for him. One more player in the King's player rehabilitation program shouldn't hurt.

 

[SacTownKid]

Greg Ostertag just got suspended indefinately. How about we trade Jamal Sampson and Corliss Williamson for him. One more player in the King's player rehabilitation program shouldn't hurt.

I would so be down for that! Tag and Brad looked like a great combo in the playoffs for the few minutes they got together. They single handedly turned that game around when they were in.

 

[nbrans]

Here's a way to get Tyson Chandler to Sacramento this season. It's majorly complicated by the fact that he's a base year player. I won't get into the specifics because they make my head hurt, but basically both the Kings and Chicago would have to dump salary onto a third party to make it happen. This trade works on RealGM.

Kings send Kenny Thomas and Francisco Garcia to Chicago
Kings send Jason Hart to Atlanta
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler to Sacramento
Chicago sends Eric Piatkowski (expiring contract) and 1st round pick to Atlanta

The Kings would get one of the top defensive interior big men in the league, albeit one who looks comatose this season and has a massive contract.

Chicago gets a solid starting power forward, and rid themselves of Tyson Chandler's contract, although Kenny's contract is no peach. They also get Francisco Garcia, would finally give them a properly-sized shooting guard.

Atlanta gets a point guard, an expiring deal and a 1st round pick for basically nothing.

In this scenario, I'd absolutely advocate starting Chandler at the 4 alongside Miller, and bring SAR off the bench. The main question mark of this deal is whether Chicago would give up their only Center. It's doubtful, but their season isn't really going anywhere and they could free up some space to go after Ben Wallace in the offseason.

Your new Kings:

Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, Chandler, Miller

 

[16to93]

Get A Big Guy That Can Board And Is A Presence Down Low!!!!!

 

[SLAB]

Etan Thomas.

Straigt up for Kenny Thomas.

The contracts match...They both have ugly contracts...Both are underachieving.

Get er' dun!

 

[Entity]

Here's a way to get Tyson Chandler to Sacramento this season. It's majorly complicated by the fact that he's a base year player. I won't get into the specifics because they make my head hurt, but basically both the Kings and Chicago would have to dump salary onto a third party to make it happen. This trade works on RealGM.

Kings send Kenny Thomas and Francisco Garcia to Chicago
Kings send Jason Hart to Atlanta
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler to Sacramento
Chicago sends Eric Piatkowski (expiring contract) and 1st round pick to Atlanta

The Kings would get one of the top defensive interior big men in the league, albeit one who looks comatose this season and has a massive contract.

Chicago gets a solid starting power forward, and rid themselves of Tyson Chandler's contract, although Kenny's contract is no peach. They also get Francisco Garcia, would finally give them a properly-sized shooting guard.

Atlanta gets a point guard, an expiring deal and a 1st round pick for basically nothing.

In this scenario, I'd absolutely advocate starting Chandler at the 4 alongside Miller, and bring SAR off the bench. The main question mark of this deal is whether Chicago would give up their only Center. It's doubtful, but their season isn't really going anywhere and they could free up some space to go after Ben Wallace in the offseason.

Your new Kings:

Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, Chandler, Miller

I wouldn't give up Garcia for Kobe. Garcia is going to be a stud on this team in a few years if not next year. Garcia is the future. Now Martin is another story but Tyson Chandler don't impress me. You start talking about Bosh and i am all over it.

 

[nbrans]

^Tyson Chandler had 20 rebounds tonight, 11 offensive. It was Brick's idea, but I'm firmly on the bandwagon.

 

[SacTownKid]

If we have any shot at Chadler, which I don't think Petrie would sign off on because he has a huge contract, Reef would have to be going. Not Kenny.

And I say YES to Etan Thomas!!! He's good enough for me.

 

[Bricklayer]

I wouldn't give up Garcia for Kobe.

Er....right.

 

[SLAB]

If we have any shot at Chadler, which I don't think Petrie would sign off on because he has a huge contract, Reef would have to be going. Not Kenny.

And I say YES to Etan Thomas!!! He's good enough for me.

If we had to give a package centered around Reef for Chandler, I would do it in a second.

And after tinkering around with RealGM, I found a way to get Chandler to Sacto without getting a third team involved.

Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
4.3 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.3 minutes

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
6-9 PF from California
15.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 33.1 minutes

Jamal Sampson
6-11 C from California
0.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.1 apg in 3.3 minutes

Incoming
Tyson Chandler
7-1 C from Dominguez (HS)
4.8 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 24.6 minutes

Othella Harrington
6-9 PF from Georgetown
5.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 12.4 minutes

Malik Allen
6-10 PF from Villanova
2.4 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.1 apg in 7.6 minutes

Change in team outlook: -7.7 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and -1.7 apg

Well...The main part of this deal is a SAR for Chandler swap, with just a bunch of pieces thrown in to make Chandlers BYC contract work out.

Corliss = Harrington...Corliss will now be Chicago's stumpy/tough/banger type off te bench in limited minutes, as Harrington will now be the Kings vetran cheerleader who will get an occasional call to try to spark us.

Allen = Sampson...Just a swap of live bodies...Allen is slightly older, so it's looking like he will amount to nothing...Sampson does have a little bit of raw potential, so he could be worth a shot.

It all depends on if the Bulls would want to give up on Chandler, and get an established player back in the process...They do need scoring...So who knows?

Starters: Bibby/Bonzi/Artest/Chandler/Miller
2nd Team: Hart/Martin/Cisco/Thomas/Skinner
"Mateens": Harrington/Allen/Price

I like it!