Official Welcome to the Kings: Quincy Douby! (merged)

[Kingzrool]

Already agreed we should have got a star comparible to Webber and noone in that trade will ever mount to equal his play. Also agreed in the "higher ups" concept.

I came on in 2001 and was excited when he did his thing. But increasingly he just was not aggresive enough and relied on diminishing finesse - IN MY OPINION. At that point and mostly still, I do not read press and am certainly not influenced by it, I just watch the games. I have a family and a job etc.

Back to topic at hand - Welcome Douby!!!!

 

[Entity]

ppl that wanted Bojax back well we got him back only younger better defensively and shoots the 3 better than Bobby did coming in the league. Douby shot 39% from beyond the arc facing double and triple teams when he crossed half court. He is also able to break his defender down and create very well for himself. With backup PG's you have a choice, somebody to run the offense ala. Brevin Knight or a spark plug ala. Earl Boykins well we the Boykins of that deal. I am excited about the pick and i think he will be a great sparkplug and energy guy off the bench. I love the fact he is passionate about defense even when he was on a team that he had all the focus on him on the offensive end. He is also from New York so I imagine him and Ron could have something to talk about and Defense will be one of them.

 

[VF21]

If anything, this pick could mean we wave buh-bye to Jason Hart sooner rather than later.

If this kid can at least give Bibby a breather AND can shoot, he just moved in front of Hart on my depth chart.

 

[HaraWish]

so does this mean the liklihood of bonzi coming back became less?...i hope not, i really like bonzi and want him to stay

I think this pick is irrelevant to Wells. Douby will play as Bibby's backup. He will not play as SG unless Mussleman use nano line up.

Actually this pick can be interpreted as 'pro-Wells'. Because of this pick we can save money to sign FA vet PGs. And we have more money to re-sign Wells.

 

[SacTownKid]

If anything, this pick could mean we wave buh-bye to Jason Hart sooner rather than later.

If this kid can at least give Bibby a breather AND can shoot, he just moved in front of Hart on my depth chart.

I actually wanted to see Jason Hart under Muss, but Joe Maloof stated a few weeks ago that they are looking around the league for a backup to Mike, which tells me Jason Hart isn't in the Kings plans at the moment.

 

[Fillmoe]

If anything, this pick could mean we wave buh-bye to Jason Hart sooner rather than later.

If this kid can at least give Bibby a breather AND can shoot, he just moved in front of Hart on my depth chart.

we already have that player in price

 

[ParniValjak]

I think people are REALLY over-reacting with this "its the end of Bonzi" talk.

Drafting Douby has NOTHING to do with what happens with Bonzi. The only thing that would impact on whether or not Bonzi comes back is whether the Kings think that Martin is ready to be a full time consistent starter at SG. Douby will not have any impact on what happens with Bonzi. None what so ever.

The most likely to be affected by Douby's drafting are Hart and probably to lesser extent Price.

I suspect the draft today just spelled the end of Hart in Sacramento, one way or the other.

 

[Entity]

True about Martin. Garcia...actually that was a significant problem for him last year. In any case, the thing is that Martin is a pure shyooting guard. So that attitude is ok. Douby however, if he's supposed to be our backup point (and at his size he is no NBA OG) has to adjust that mentality. We WANT Kevin Martin to attack and be "selfish". Never really had to adjust that much. But from a PG you need a guy who can make others better.

yeah you may want that from your PG if you are a prototypical team. The Sacramento Kings are far from prototypical. When you have Ron Artest and Brad Miller it takes all that away. Even with Ron Artest it takes that away. Brad Miller gets his shots from drives and kickouts. Ron Artest gets his in the post or facing up. Martin backcuts or kickouts from Artest in the post. so with the offense running like that why do we need a pg that runs the offense. Bibby doesn't run it unless you call bringing it up the court and passing it to somebody else running it. Unless we get Garnett and PF and Yao at Center a pure pass happy point guard is useless on our team.

 

[Entity]

If anything, this pick could mean we wave buh-bye to Jason Hart sooner rather than later.

If this kid can at least give Bibby a breather AND can shoot, he just moved in front of Hart on my depth chart.

douby comes in better than Hart and Price already. All the talk about his offense and nobody has said much about his ability to stay in front of his man and play passing lanes and be tenacious on defense as well. Douby is probably Hart and Price combined with better offensive skills than both combined. Picture a younger Bojax but coming in with the same skill level as Bojax did in his 3rd year with us.

 

[SacTownKid]

Quincy also has freakishly long arms.

 

[G_M]

Eh...I think Douby jockers are being silly.

I'm not sure how anyone can jock a 19 pick. If your 19th pick on a "decent" team cantributes and shows NBA potential it's a good pick.

As an aside, I would argue that scoring and being a scorer is in demand in the NBA right now. The Kings have exactly ONE(Bibby) average to above average shooter on the current roster. Defense is great and ultimately wins championships but you do have to score. So, if there are no legit interior post defenders/rebounders available at the 19th pick why not pick a scorer? I like PLAYERS and this guy seems like a player.

 

[BigWaxer]

Doobs is not a PG, lets get that straight right now. He will not take harts position, he is not a floor leader at all. NO way is he a backup to bibby.

Caro - Yes Kmart takes over and they need a backup for that position. I think a lot can be read into that and as I have said time and time again. Bonzi will not be a king this year. Gut feeling. BTW my feelings come true 98% of the time. I hope I am wrong this time but doubt it.

Either way this is a total petrie pick. A player that has no D and can shoot. Typical Petrie and now its time to start calling him out. Great GM sure but eventually we need to draft players that actually fit our needs.

I do agree we need another outside shooter since Peja left. But a rookie is not the way to do it. Just looking short term here, I think Petrie knows its now not later. Get a guy that can score, use him in limited minutes and hope for the best. I can go with that.

 

[Prophetess]

welcome Quincy!

 

[Sac.Kings]

I think it was a good pick for us just so we can have some offense coming off the bench. I know we have Martin and Garcia sometimes, but if Garcia is going to play backup PG (it worked well) or if Douby is going to be the PG off the bench, then we need someone who can shoot and he can. I dont think it has anything to do with Bonzi, this pick could solve some of our bench SCORING problems. Douby is like Barbosa of the Suns, not really a point guard but can shoot and create shots.

 

[BigWaxer]

May I add in the NBA unless you get that "golden" pick the draft doesn't matter. Almost like playing craps for the NBA draft. You hope you hit but most of the time you dont

 

[BibityBobtyBoom]

i hope u are great trade bate cuz u aren't really gonna play

 

[Sac.Kings]

Welcome to Sac-town Quincy (I forgot to mention this).

 

[Entity]

waxer you may need to do some research on his defense as it is more than sufficient. And yes he will be playing the point. Floor leader no he isn't but neither is Hart. No point guard in the league would be a floor leader with Artest on the court at the same time. Bibby wasn't the leader once ron arived. Douby is a spark both offensivly and DEFENSIVELY and that is what we needed. A pass happy backup pg is not the way to go when Bibby is going to be playing at least 38 min a game. No time to get a rhythm in the offense with 10 min split here and there. he is compared to Gilber Arenas best case and worst case Eddie House. Eric Muss loved Arenas and Boykins at GS in fact he loved them so much he played 3 point guards everynight with Arenas Boykins and Claxton. Douby will be the backup point.

 

[Warhawk]

Think BJax rumors were only that now that this is here? How sad!

No, just being realistic.

With this choice, bringing back Bobby ain't gonna happen. We have too many guards right now as it is, especially if we can re-sign Bonzi, and we should.

Now, if several go as trade components, I can see Bobby maybe coming back, but I am still doubtful right now.

 

[Kings113]

I like the pick a lot, it'll improve the bench, give us SHOOTING, can create his own shot which are needed. The guy can play defense according to most scouting reports. Just needs to put some weight on, but his length and quickness will help for sure. Some people said similar things about Garcia, despite having length and some quickness, and was known as being able to play defense anyways. Eddie House? Nah.

Don't think the pick relates to Bonzi due to who he is, what money we can offer him, and our roster versatility.

Means we'll get a back-up PG whos already in the league, as we should, and being a two-way guard (offense and defense). If not, well, Hart will have to prove himself under Muss.

Hart likely won't be here though I think, Price will either be released or go to the NBDL or stay as a 3rd guard. Douby could well be a trade piece, but I don't really think so. 1 or 2 of those three guys won't be here. Also possible Monia's gone either to Europe or somewhere else in the NBA, and Garcia could well be a trade piece.

So, lots of possibilities and questions. Which is why I think we have to let things play out before jumping to conclusions like horses out of the gate.

That's how I feel on this whole situation with Douby and our guard spots.

 

[PacMan]

I saw some game clip of this guy. He reminds me alot of Cuttino Mobley.

 

[BigWaxer]

waxer you may need to do some research on his defense as it is more than sufficient. And yes he will be playing the point. Floor leader no he isn't but neither is Hart. No point guard in the league would be a floor leader with Artest on the court at the same time. Bibby wasn't the leader once ron arived. Douby is a spark both offensivly and DEFENSIVELY and that is what we needed. A pass happy backup pg is not the way to go when Bibby is going to be playing at least 38 min a game. No time to get a rhythm in the offense with 10 min split here and there. he is compared to Gilber Arenas best case and worst case Eddie House. Eric Muss loved Arenas and Boykins at GS in fact he loved them so much he played 3 point guards everynight with Arenas Boykins and Claxton. Douby will be the backup point.

Please... this is not even worth debating. Facts are in front of you

 

[Entity]

what facts. where are you getting your info? I am reading every scouting report on the net and they all say the same thing. A Brevin Knight type of point guard is useless on a team with this many players whos main strengthe is creating for themselves.

 

[SacTownKid]

waxer you may need to do some research on his defense as it is more than sufficient. And yes he will be playing the point. Floor leader no he isn't but neither is Hart. No point guard in the league would be a floor leader with Artest on the court at the same time. Bibby wasn't the leader once ron arived. Douby is a spark both offensivly and DEFENSIVELY and that is what we needed. A pass happy backup pg is not the way to go when Bibby is going to be playing at least 38 min a game. No time to get a rhythm in the offense with 10 min split here and there. he is compared to Gilber Arenas best case and worst case Eddie House. Eric Muss loved Arenas and Boykins at GS in fact he loved them so much he played 3 point guards everynight with Arenas Boykins and Claxton. Douby will be the backup point.

Thats true he seems like he may really fit with Muss.

 

[dukeswh]

Quincy also has freakishly long arms.

I heard someone say that he has a wingspan of a 6'9" forward.

Anyway, welcome Quincy!

 

[Bricklayer]

what facts. where are you getting your info? I am reading every scouting report on the net and they all say the same thing. A Brevin Knight type of point guard is useless on a team with this many players whos main strengthe is creating for themselves.

Uh...makes you wonder exactly what/where a PG is actually useful then. First it was the Princeton and all the talented passers who could not create. Now with all our passers gone we still have no use for one?

Douby might be able to play in this league, but because Geoff is still over-offensively orienting the team, Douby's a guy who needs to shoot to contribute but for whom there are no shots because they are all already accounted for. We're still in desperate need of guys who do the OTHER things.

It is what it is, but our backcourt right now is heavily oriented towards its own offense. Cisco's really the only guy with a different mentality, and he wasted most of last year being the worst chucker of all.

 

[ForlornKing]

I don't understand why you guys don't like Douby.

Yes, I myself what would of drafted Williams, but I think Geoff wanted more shooting to back-up Bibby. He's not a point guard. He's a guard. Just a guard, can play the 1,2 comfortably.

I'm telling you people, hes B-Jax but taller.

 

[nebs]

He reminds me of Jason Terry from the clips I've seen.

 

[SacTownKid]

All of our passers are gone??? Wow, could have fooled me. I thought Mike, Ron, Brad, Cisco, and Reef were all pretty good passers myself.

 

[nebs]

Just some random Cavs thread discussing Douby about a week ago. Meh. Just kind of interesting. http://cavaliers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/78710881/m/6791073141/p/1