Official Fire PDA thread

[Prince_XY]

Why does it matter? I'd like to see it too to be honest.

It's been pointed in a variety of ways no one wanted Malone fired. The poll confirmed it.

You're equating any kind of negative feedback as evidence he should have been fired. That's a fallacy.

It does matter to see that thread, because I suspect somebody deleted that thread for their own self-serving interest.

Maybe deleted by a hacker-fan/moderator who does not want that thread to be used against their argument?

I would really want to know why that thread was maliciously censored or made to disappear.

And who did it?

What is he trying to hide on that thread?

 

[Chubbs]

It does matter to see that thread, because I suspect somebody deleted that thread for their own self-serving interest.

Maybe deleted by a hacker-fan/moderator who does not want that thread to be used against their argument?

I would really want to know why that thread was maliciously censored or made to disappear.

Just cause someone had criticisms of Malone doesn't mean they wanted him fired. Explain how you get that conclusion.

I agree that that thread vanishing is bizarre.

 

[funkykingston]

It was selling, but maybe he saw and believed the boom as something not sustainable in the long run?

I mean, you just have to read the thread "The Fallacy of Hope" where it was pointed out that the Kings roster was not that bad to lose badly (and that was with or without Cousins). That thread was born out of frustration during the last weeks of Malone era where clearly the Kings were on a downward trajectory and it even started with Cousins still playing.

Maybe Vivek/FO decided enough is enough and we have to change course for the betterment of the team in the future?

I have no idea what thread you're referring to but the Kings have been awful without Cousins. Is that the fault of the coach or is the roster just not that talented? Obviously both but I certainly come down more on the side of just not having the horses. That certainly was the national assessment. I'm not a big fan of ESPN's player rankings but just because they are an easy reference here's where they had the players on the Kings ranked among all 500 players they scored:

Cousins: 19th
Gay: 51st
Collison: 148th
Carl Landry 205th
McLemore: 208th
Williams: 215th
Stauskas: 218th
Sessions: 223rd
Thompson: 243rd
Casspi: 251st
Evans: 288th
McCallum: 308th

Again, I don't agree with all of these (Cousins is obviously top 10 in the NBA if not top 5) but according to ESPN our 3rd best player barely rates as a starter given that there are 150 starting positions in the NBA. The outlook on the Kings going into this season was that the Kings had one great player, one good player and role players beyond that. I don't think it's Malone's fault that the team struggled without Boogie. It's just lacking in talent. But they had a better record with Cousins under Malone than they do with Cousins under Corbin. And while it's the tiniest of sample sizes, Corbin is winless without Cousins too (0-1).

But let's forget about that for a second. What you're proposing the logic of this move was is that Vivek saw the Kings out to their best start in a decade (remember that Pete claims he flew out to Vegas before Boogie went down) and decided to follow the advice of his GM and fire his handpicked coach because the success MIGHT not be sustainable in order to turn the reins over to Tyrone Corbin who PDA told us he'd never met until Malone introduced him to him in training camp.

And that makes sense how?

It does matter to see that thread, because I suspect somebody deleted that thread for their own self-serving interest.

Maybe deleted by a hacker-fan/moderator who does not want that thread to be used against their argument?

I would really want to know why that thread was maliciously censored or made to disappear.

And who did it?

What is he trying to hide on that thread?

Wow.

 

[Prince_XY]

Just cause someone had criticisms of Malone doesn't mean they wanted him fired. Explain how you get that conclusion.

I agree that that thread vanishing is bizarre.

Twice, I quoted a mod on the "The Fallacy of Hope" thread to prove that the Kings were not doing fine under Malone and the quotes vanished twice within seconds. Then, when I tried to put the quote the 3rd/4th time the whole thread "The Fallacy of Hope" was deleted. This happened in a matter of minutes.

No reason given by the mod for editing/deleting the quotes on my post. Apparently, my post was above board, but the quote deleted was damning for Malone and the mod.

So, you see this is a very good instance a mod is untouchable when it comes to arguments.

Ordinary posters just can't win. They either get censored, kicked-out, (or banned for expose?)

Beware.

 

[Glenn]

Has Vivek said anything lately? We all know Pete went on the radio and really just made things worse, but has Vivek said anything publicly recently? I think last we heard from him was right after the firing and the national media attention... Has he just remained silent since then? To be fair, he would be wise to stay silent, but i would just LOVE to hear his take on everything, especially since he said we would do better with Corbin. Just curious...

As far as I know, he hasn't said a thing. If I were him, I would lay low also. I would wait awhile to see if indeed Corbin is a beter coach than Malone based on the criteria he has set up (wins and playoffs). I interpret his silence as a sign of guilt. He knows he screwed up and the waiting is not paying off with happy news. It's just getting worse. I think what he doesn't realize is that if he came out and admitted that he screwed up, the fans would accept that. For me, I would respect him more. Hiding in a little cave somewhere is a coward's way out.

 

[rainmaker]

Actually, it is interesting when plugging "Fallacy of Hope" into the search bar as a title, nothing comes up.

I remember that thread. Was it deleted? If it was, that brings up a pretty interesting question. Why would anyone delete a thread?

 

[Glenn]

It does matter to see that thread, because I suspect somebody deleted that thread for their own self-serving interest.

Maybe deleted by a hacker-fan/moderator who does not want that thread to be used against their argument?

I would really want to know why that thread was maliciously censored or made to disappear.

And who did it?

What is he trying to hide on that thread?

I doubt if it is all that sinister. I've never seen anything like this happen in the 14 years I've been a member of this forum.

 

[Prince_XY]

Wow.

You don't believe me that it can happen in this board being moderated by reasonable adults?

Why don't you ask one of the mods here to try and find what happened to that "The Fallacy of Hope" thread, who deleted it, and what was the reason why that thread got deleted?

A mod can probably even find out that the timing of the deletion of the thread was at the same time I was using that post in my posting in the "Fire PDA/Chris Mullin" (January 2)

This is so un-American.

 

[Prince_XY]

I doubt if it is all that sinister. I've never seen anything like this happen in the 14 years I've been a member of this forum.

So, that means 14 years of integrity and fairness in this board.

You are one of the most important and respected members in this board because of your integrity.

Would you care pushing mod Brick (because I know Brick is fair enough and cares enough about decency and the integrity of this board and wouldn't do such malicious deletion) to investigate?

 

[hrdboild]

I think the original "Fire Malone" thread got retitled and/or merged into this one: http://www.kingsfans.com/threads/malone-discussion-merged.58532/

 

[Glenn]

So, that means 14 years of integrity and fairness in this board.

You are one of the most important and respected members in this board because of your integrity.

Would you care pushing mod Brick (because I know Brick is fair enough and care enough about the integrity of this board and wouldn't do such malicious deletion) to investigate?

I can investigate.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment. I've been pulling back from posting because of age and also the quality of posts doesn't need any help from me.

 

[Glenn]

I think the original "Fire Malone" thread got retitled and/or merged into this one: http://www.kingsfans.com/threads/malone-discussion-merged.58532/

Actually this is the most likely answer as to where the thread went.

 

[Chubbs]

Merging seems most likely.

Looking back at that "Fire Malone" thread I had almost forgotten about a certain poster with the initials AK. Biggest Malone basher there was.

And stopped posting as soon as he was fired. I guess hating Malone was the reason he was here.

Also in reread in parts of that thread, I've got to stop quoting myself.

Btw, a good chunk of that fire Malone thread was people saying what a bad idea that would be.

 

[rainmaker]

I think the original "Fire Malone" thread got retitled and/or merged into this one: http://www.kingsfans.com/threads/malone-discussion-merged.58532/

I don't.

I read through that quickly and my posts in that thread were about Malone before he was fired.

"Fallacy of Hope" doesn't appear to be related to that thread at all. Plus, that thread was locked up before the thread in question came about.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

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