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Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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#61
#61
jeffjcalweb said:
that's the problem brick - you have to live in sacramento city limits to vote in the elections. the population base of sacto city vs sacto county is unequal. i believe sac city population is around 450K whereas the rest of the 1+ mil are sac county (ie Roseville, Rocklin, El Dorado Hills). we can't participate, yet the city council controls the kings fate as long as any deal involving an arena is within city limits.
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You don't win elections by voting yourself. I have a plan here. And if it works we may be in position to do a lot more than just wring our hands. And we will have people from inside those districts involved. And people from outside the diistricts driving in to put boots on the ground.

If anybody knows, I would like to know how/where those council members up for election stnad -- beyond Cohn, who I already know about. If their "base" in their own districts is 4000 people, I just about guarantee you that number can be matched if need be. There are 4000 people in those districts who would vote against them if properly motivated. The Kings are that motivation. The key is having a plan on how to reach/motivate those people. Or in elicting promises from the politicians at hand in exchange for not interfering in their back yards.
 
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jeffjcalweb

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#62
#62
Padrino said:
i hadnt thought about this..where would the monarchs play?
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see, now you're asking questions about the bigger picture. who knows where they would play, my guess is they go where the kings go. i have nothing to base that on, just my opinion. doesn't make much sense to move an NBA team and not the WNBA team.
 
Circa_1985_Fan

Circa_1985_Fan

All-Star
#64
#64
jeffjcalweb said:
see, now you're asking questions about the bigger picture. who knows where they would play, my guess is they go where the kings go. i have nothing to base that on, just my opinion. doesn't make much sense to move an NBA team and not the WNBA team.
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Well, they both would leave, due to the Maloofs owning both. But you have to look at the even bigger picture than that: If we lose the NBA, how long will it be before Sacramento 'grows up' as a city, due to the failure to keep the only horse in a one horse city? This city/county is over 2,000,000 people strong, and still in seek of its identity. Only time will tell.
 
D-Mass

D-Mass

Starter
#65
#65
VF21 said:
Maybe the thought the deal could get done OUTSIDE city limits might get their attention...

There are alternatives, including nearby counties - remember Detroit plays 40 miles away in Auburn Hills.

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Chico, baby!!!






Is that too far? ;)
 
VF21

VF21

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#66
#66
Well, there is that patch of land in Yuba County that was recently the subject of a vote to determine whether or not they wanted an Indian casino there. (It's where the SleepTrain Amphitheater - or whatever it's currently called - is located.)
 
BigWaxer

BigWaxer

Starter
#67
#67
I think that patch was for the NASCAR track that never happened. That says enough about Yuba and their ability to get something done.
 
bozzwell

bozzwell

Starter
#69
#69
Bricklayer said:
You don't win elections by voting yourself. I have a plan here. And if it works we may be in position to do a lot more than just wring our hands. And we will have people from inside those districts involved. And people from outside the diistricts driving in to put boots on the ground.

If anybody knows, I would like to know how/where those council members up for election stnad -- beyond Cohn, who I already know about. If their "base" in their own districts is 4000 people, I just about guarantee you that number can be matched if need be. There are 4000 people in those districts who would vote against them if properly motivated. The Kings are that motivation. The key is having a plan on how to reach/motivate those people. Or in elicting promises from the politicians at hand in exchange for not interfering in their back yards.
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...and your plan is to use your bat. Right? :D
 
slugking50

slugking50

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#70
#70
BigWaxer said:
I think that patch was for the NASCAR track that never happened. That says enough about Yuba and their ability to get something done.
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Well... It was supposed to be one of those Mile & 1/2 Cookie cutter tracks that wouldnt get many dates anyway. I thought the track was under construction still..... I had no idea it was stopped.
 
VF21

VF21

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#71
#71
The track concept fell through because of the people on the other end. Not because of Yuba County's lack of ability.

With the right backing, an arena proposal would PASS in Yuba County. It would actually be a real boon to the economy AND I know at least three supervisors (there are only 5 total) who would support it.
 
slugking50

slugking50

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#72
#72
VF21 said:
The track concept fell through because of the people on the other end. Not because of Yuba County's lack of ability.

With the right backing, an arena proposal would PASS in Yuba County. It would actually be a real boon to the economy AND I know at least three supervisors (there are only 5 total) who would support it.
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Ah ok I remeber now. Forsythe backed out.
 
Warhawk

Warhawk

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#73
#73
I still say an arena next to Raley Field would do really well if Natomas falls through. They already have a boatload of unimproved parking lots for about, what, 14,100 folks or so? Throw in some asphalt, a new parking structure or two, and tear down an old warehouse for the arena site....

Now we're talking! :)
 
Warhawk

Warhawk

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#74
#74
And if W. Sac doesn't work - try Elk Grove next to a light rail line somewhere. That way everyone can hop on board and ride down to the game. Trust me, the way they green-light building projects, it would go through.
 
Circa_1985_Fan

Circa_1985_Fan

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#75
#75
Warhawk said:
I still say an arena next to Raley Field would do really well if Natomas falls through. They already have a boatload of unimproved parking lots for about, what, 14,100 folks or so? Throw in some asphalt, a new parking structure or two, and tear down an old warehouse for the arena site....

Now we're talking! :)
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I've always been a proponent of an arena at this site, but it would take quite some time to cut through all the red tape to even get to a vote involving the use of the land, in the first place. I definetely think this would probably be the best site for it(well, I'm not going to be picky, if someone else gets it done somewhere else), but I would love to see that area built up as a sports/entertainment area. Although traffic getting there would be a pain, they might have to build another bridge accross the Sac River to substantiate for the dramatic increase.
 
Warhawk

Warhawk

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#76
#76
Oh, there are definitely issues (traffic, event scheduling, etc.), but if the city/county can't get their act together, I say right across the river is as good a site as any. Add a bridge or two, revamp some onramps and offramps and access roads.....
 
Circa_1985_Fan

Circa_1985_Fan

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#77
#77
Warhawk said:
Oh, there are definitely issues (traffic, event scheduling, etc.), but if the city/county can't get their act together, I say right across the river is as good a site as any. Add a bridge or two, revamp some onramps and offramps and access roads.....
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And this would take how many dozens of years to build 'a bridge or two'??*L*
 
Warhawk

Warhawk

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#78
#78
Circa_1985_Fan said:
And this would take how many dozens of years to build 'a bridge or two'??*L*
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Oh, I know, as I help design bridge foundations as part of my job. :D The best answer is, "About as long as it takes to approve and build an arena." ;)
 
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