What if Fox is gone and so is JJ and Tatum. Who do you choose between Ball and Isaac?
If we end up with Jackson, let's hope the third times a charm for us drafting a sliding Jayhawk.If we select a SF at 5, I prefer Isaac, Tatum, Jackson in that order. I just have a bad feeling about Jackson. I just get a feast or famine vibe with him. I accept being in the minority.
If we can grab Fox at 5 though then it wont be an issue.
As long as we see a lot of Tatum highlights in the future and not him riding the benchSuns are trying to trade Bledsoe if so we can say bye to Fox and start watching Tatum highlights
Suns are trying to trade Bledsoe if so we can say bye to Fox and start watching Tatum highlights
I kinda like it. Plus we still have our #34 right? We get a starting sf, draft a rookie sf, we get fox and doesn't turner handle the ball decently?Mock draft by Wes Goldberg, from all u can heat on fansided:
#5 Fox, PG, Kentucky
We trade #10 with Detroit for #12 and Stanley Johnson.
We then trade #12 and Afflalo with Portland for Evan Turner plus #15 and #26.
#15 Justin Jackson, SF, North Carolina
#26 Bam Adebayo, C, Kentucky
So what would your thoughts be on this scenario?
It sounds like Tatum is pretty locked in at 3.
Rumor has it Chicago offered butler for the number 3 straight up and Boston declined. If that's true the how much is the number 5 worth?
Mock draft by Wes Goldberg, from all u can heat on fansided:
#5 Fox, PG, Kentucky
We trade #10 with Detroit for #12 and Stanley Johnson.
We then trade #12 and Afflalo with Portland for Evan Turner plus #15 and #26.
#15 Justin Jackson, SF, North Carolina
#26 Bam Adebayo, C, Kentucky
So what would your thoughts be on this scenario?
I kinda like it. Plus we still have our #34 right? We get a starting sf, draft a rookie sf, we get fox and doesn't turner handle the ball decently?
I like having more assets in the draft, but I'm getting a little annoyed that we have to trade back AND take on a bad contract to get 2 picks from Portland who is in luxury cap hell. If we're giving them capspace and trading back I would expect all 3 of their picks in return. I'd be fine trading back to 12 for Johnson, and fine trading back a second time. If we're trading back for more picks I'd grab the Harry Giles lotto ticket at least and I'm not really in love with Jackson or Adebayo.
I like the idea here of collecting more assets, just don't like the execution of the Portland trade or the assets we draft after trading back.
I dunno... We could walk out of the draft with Fox, Juwan Evans, Dillon Brooks, Frank Mason, and Stanley Johnson. A lot of young talent there.I could maybe get behind the trade back with Detroit.
I think the Portland deal is lopsided in their favor, regardless of who we picked at 15 and 26.
Portland would be unloading an overpriced contract and turning 15 + 26 into 12, with the only "downside" being Afflalo whom they would cut for 1.5million.
Seems like the scales would be tipped to Portland in that scenario.
My whole hangup is, I think giving 12 to Portland would be overpaying. I don't have issue with the possible prospects at all. It feels like a favor to Portland to me.
Maybe I just need more coffee.
I think the Portland deal is lopsided in their favor, regardless of who we picked at 15 and 26.
Portland would be unloading an overpriced contract and turning 15 + 26 into 12, with the only "downside" being Afflalo whom they would cut for 1.5million.
Seems like the scales would be tipped to Portland in that scenario.
Fox is a freakish talent. We got a good look at him in the tournament under the bright lights. He has a ton of charisma and confidence. That is where leadership comes from. Buddy has it too. That would be a great back court that could lead a team for a long time. I love the guy.
Mock draft by Wes Goldberg, from all u can heat on fansided:
#5 Fox, PG, Kentucky
We trade #10 with Detroit for #12 and Stanley Johnson.
We then trade #12 and Afflalo with Portland for Evan Turner plus #15 and #26.
#15 Justin Jackson, SF, North Carolina
#26 Bam Adebayo, C, Kentucky
So what would your thoughts be on this scenario?
Sure they can, and should. Two examples:The Kings draft decisions can't involve whether or not Teodosic and Bogdanovic are likely to sign.
Yes, exactly this. With the salary cap adjustment yesterday, the Blazers are now poised to pay $39M in luxury tax next year alone if they stand pat. We're talking total salary pushing $175M for a team that struggled to get into the playoffs this year. That's a really undesirable scenario no matter how rosy they're trying to make it look up there. If we took Evan Turner off their hands, that's not only $55M of more or less dead money, but it erases the luxury tax payment this year ($39M!) and for any subsequent years when they would also be in the tax barring some other move. They are trading away a player who isn't even any good and they are easily saving OVER $100 MILLION in the process. And we're supposed to send them a draft pick? They could send 15 and 20 and an unprotected 2019 and unprotected pick swaps in 2018 and 2020 and they should STILL kiss our butts to get us to say yes. They could conceivably net $150-200M for the low price of three non-lotto picks. Note that the Kings' cost would be significantly lower - we would spend "only" $55M and get at least three picks with the chance for two draft position improvements on top of that - could be as low as $11M per pick, which is still steep, but also consider that a good chunk of that is money we might have trouble spending anyway, given the large amount of inexpensive youth on our roster and the salary floor set at 90% of the cap. If say $30M of that is money we would have thrown away anyhow, things become very obviously win-win for both teams. I see no reason why a deal like this shouldn't happen, other than Portland being willing to drop something approaching a fifth of a billion dollars just to avoid admitting they screwed up last year's free agency.
Your right, Its completely wild right now and I have lost track of all the possible trades. Virtually impossible to tel what is true and what is smokescreen. So I have no idea who is going 1-4. At this point I'm just going to watch who is falling to #5.
If its Fox, great, pick him and call it a day.
If its Jackson, take him or package him for Porzingis.
If its Tatum I'm also fine with it but I know some are lower on him, but hey, you can still take Isaac then or try to trade the pick. Or you just take Dennis Smith and bank on Joerger getting him to buy in.
Regarding 10, I'm not that high on it either, but I think you can do worse. In last years draft we would have probably taken PapaG or Sabonis. I'd take any of Collins, Mitchell, Ntilikina or Markannen above them. Who do you like at 10?
Interestingly, DX has Ntilikina falling down to #15. They are usually pretty reliable a few days before the draft. I thought he was going to Dallas or NY. Jawun Evans is now down to #41. What?
Mock draft by Wes Goldberg, from all u can heat on fansided:
#5 Fox, PG, Kentucky
We trade #10 with Detroit for #12 and Stanley Johnson.
We then trade #12 and Afflalo with Portland for Evan Turner plus #15 and #26.
#15 Justin Jackson, SF, North Carolina
#26 Bam Adebayo, C, Kentucky
So what would your thoughts be on this scenario?
I'm interested in the #10 and I wonder if Divac might swing for the fences with Harry Giles.