Now, Ron Artest will be on ESPN2...
- Thread starter Kings113
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- I don't disagree with him about top two in the west... I have thought and do think we have a good chance to win the division. I also agree with him about being a 4-5 seed, of course.
- Championship, finals? Ya never know, who knows what can happen from now to the spring.
- From many various things, I have believed and do believe he is indeed a different guy from 2004 to now.
- My feelings about him and Team USA are in another thread.
I love his confidence
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SAS was quite stupid, as aside from Bibby, he just mentioned guys like Potapenko, Brian Skinner, Corliss Williamson in reference to looking at the Kings roster. Skinner has been gone, and he should know that he was in the Potapenko trade. Second, Potapenko is very uncertain right now, Corliss also has uncertainity. If Corliss stays I doubt plays a key role in getting minutes, but if stays is a third guy. He should know that by the rest of the players on the team, and doesn't take into account other players on the team that fit into Musselman's style, and what Musselman has said he will implement. Which SAS didn't mention anything at all, Ron had to mention a few things.
SAS also didn't realize that Golden State from 02-03 and 03-04 is not the Sacramento Kings organization and situation for 2006 and on.
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- Championship, finals? Ya never know, who knows what can happen from now to the spring.
- From many various things, I have believed and do believe he is indeed a different guy from 2004 to now.
- My feelings about him and Team USA are in another thread.
I love his confidence
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SAS was quite stupid, as aside from Bibby, he just mentioned guys like Potapenko, Brian Skinner, Corliss Williamson in reference to looking at the Kings roster. Skinner has been gone, and he should know that he was in the Potapenko trade. Second, Potapenko is very uncertain right now, Corliss also has uncertainity. If Corliss stays I doubt plays a key role in getting minutes, but if stays is a third guy. He should know that by the rest of the players on the team, and doesn't take into account other players on the team that fit into Musselman's style, and what Musselman has said he will implement. Which SAS didn't mention anything at all, Ron had to mention a few things.
SAS also didn't realize that Golden State from 02-03 and 03-04 is not the Sacramento Kings organization and situation for 2006 and on.
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C'mon VF, we went over this before. You have to be specific. You forgot to add, "...as long as it's not the Titanic".
C'mon VF, we went over this before. You have to be specific. You forgot to add, "...as long as it's not the Titanic".
Oh yeah... I forgot again.
I want a luxury liner that isn't named the Titanic, hasn't been rotting on the bottom of the sea for any period of time, holds current registry, is listed with Lloyd's of London, AND doesn't conduct clothing-optional cruises.
Yup.
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TheJoker:
Kidding or not, you didn't quote the rest of what I said. Obviously there are reasons behind why I think those things and have thought that, and have made them clear in recent threads. Those reasons also should be obvious as at least a possibility to anyone that follows the NBA regulariliy or has in the past year.
Once again, chap - I think it's quite clear I've made it clear how I feel about the Kings upcoming season, and as have you. It's absolutely pointless to keep commenting against how I feel about that because of the former. You're looking to get into a discussion that has been discussed between us a number of times where it's obvious how our positions are. Don't know how you haven't realized that after all the times where we've put our views out there on it.
Like you always say "It's just gonna be a agree to disagree party", or something of the such.
Yeah, he did, and he talked about both of those during the interview. If you're having to wish about what Ron says, don't get involved with what he says. It's obviously an annoyance to you.
Kidding or not, you didn't quote the rest of what I said. Obviously there are reasons behind why I think those things and have thought that, and have made them clear in recent threads. Those reasons also should be obvious as at least a possibility to anyone that follows the NBA regulariliy or has in the past year.
Once again, chap - I think it's quite clear I've made it clear how I feel about the Kings upcoming season, and as have you. It's absolutely pointless to keep commenting against how I feel about that because of the former. You're looking to get into a discussion that has been discussed between us a number of times where it's obvious how our positions are. Don't know how you haven't realized that after all the times where we've put our views out there on it.
Like you always say "It's just gonna be a agree to disagree party", or something of the such.
Yeah, he did, and he talked about both of those during the interview. If you're having to wish about what Ron says, don't get involved with what he says. It's obviously an annoyance to you.
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What you want him to say? "Yeah I plan on the team sucking, I'd rather go and get a scoring title by jacking up 110 shots a game than get wins. I really think we have no chance so I'm just going to do what I want, k thanks bye."
TheJoker
Bench
BMiller52 said:
He can say the generious things. he does not have to say things like " I guarantee this or that ". he can say what a true answer will be " our team will improve " and things of that nature. by the way of his saying hes making himself look crazy and granted thats not what he wants cause he needs to change his image.
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bajaden
Hall of Famer
Maybe he believes what he says. I think everyone who competes at a high level always believes he or she is going to win the whole thing. To think otherwise would defeat them before they start. The difference is that most of them keep it to themselves. Ron's problem, if it is problem, is that he always says what he thinks. It leaves him open to critizisim and ridicule, some of which I've heard on the fourm. I'm not defending him, just trying to understand him. In some ways, its refreshing. Certainly makes for good conversation.
TheJoker
Bench
bajaden said:
He needs to believe in reality. i love Ron but sometimes his comments make him look silly. we have a new coach we lost Bonzi and we're gonna have to see if KM develops into a solid starter it's a process for the Kings and its gonna take time Ron needs to realize this. by making these dumb comments hes just putting pressure on the Kings and we don't need that pressure right now.
The only way a team can perform better than the talent they have is if someone inspires them and gets them believing, gets them trying. Without Ron believing we could beat SA last year we wouldn't have taken it to 6 games, 3 of which were very close. If teams believe they can do something than they can forget about the talent of the other team and just go out there and play hard. That's what Ron's comments did for us last year in the POs. If the team has a goal for a chip this season, than they will play at a higher level. You have to have confidence and trust in your teammates and coach. Ron is giving that to this team. Just because a fool like SAS doesn't believe, just because you and I don't believe, doesn't mean he shouldn't. It's his job to go out there and play hard, expect big things, surprise people and the doubters. It's what a real leader does, and as long as Ron's been here(I admit it hasn't been that long yet) it's what he's done.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Most players are not delusional.
Ron...well, is. And oddly its still inspiring to the troops -- such is the power of belief. Or at least was in a short stint last season. One of those things though that loses its potency and gets old the longer it goes on, particularly once you start to be wrong a few times.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Ron's power as a motivator is both admirable and, ever so slightly, disconcerting.
TheJoker
Bench
Bricklayer said:
Yeah, i agree. i thought he would stop after he was wrong in the playoffs. i'm not sure what his motives are for saying these things. this team does not need pressure right now there young and they have a new coach. Ron is clearly being delusional as you mention and hes probably gonna continue saying these things until he realizes he needs to stop making a fool out of himself. and he actually likes when he makes a fool out of himself anyways.
Fresno King
Starter
So... you DON'T want him saying we can win a championship?
WOW.....
WOW.....
Fresno King
Starter
So I'll just go ahead and root for a 6 seed and another loss in the first round of the playoffs.
Pro athletes get paid millions of dollars to handle pressure and high expectations. I'm sure they all want to get to the finals, and I don't expect them to play for anything less than a championship every year.
Pro athletes get paid millions of dollars to handle pressure and high expectations. I'm sure they all want to get to the finals, and I don't expect them to play for anything less than a championship every year.
TheJoker
Bench
Fresno King said:
You get to put expectations on a squad you have to bond with. getting money has nothing to do with expectations.. it's the management's job to change the expectations. money is only givin on indivdual play but altogether the expectations is hanged on the management's work and what he drafts/brings in additions through via FA or Trade.
What Ron is doing right now is being silly i thought Ron would know what to say at certain times since he was wrong last year in the playoffs looks like somethings never change.
anyone can talk about confidence and those sort of assesments but at the end you have to work with what you got and its obvious we don't have a roster that applys to Ron's comments.
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Jerryaki
Starter
yeah, that's what i want, another peja-like guy in the media who never says anything valuable and only points out obvious things like "we need to improve."
ron is ron, he's inspiring our guys with his energy and enthusiasm, so what's wrong with guaranteeing stuff? if he gets it wrong then he's the only one who looks like a fool.
"shoot for the heavens, if you miss at least you'll be among the stars."
ron is ron, he's inspiring our guys with his energy and enthusiasm, so what's wrong with guaranteeing stuff? if he gets it wrong then he's the only one who looks like a fool.
"shoot for the heavens, if you miss at least you'll be among the stars."
