bdouble013
Bench
Anyone find an HD feed of the game on tonight? CSN seems to only have a non HD feed (that I can find).
No HD feed?
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Tomcat
G-League
I was a little surprised that DirecTV NBA league pass is doing feeds from both teams this season (taking up to 4 channels: 2 HD, 2 SD). The Thunder's local game is in HD & SD. The Kings feed is only in SD.
I took the Kings SD feed because I prefer Grant & Jerry.
Section 101
All-Star
The Kings only broadcast home games in HD. The away game HD feeds on league pass are blacked out. Sucks watching in SD.
However, this new "widescreen" SD on the HD channel is a major improvement over last year's regular old SD feed. Even if it did take most of the pre-game to get the color sync right and most of the first quarter to get the sound right...
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
Well, I got no feed at all and I am majorly ticked off.
I have AT&T U-verse (the U100 package). Comcast SportsNet CA has been included in this package since I signed up over 10 months ago.
Well, I get home from work in time to watch part of the 3rd qtr, but I get a message that I am not subscibed for the channel, so I called right away. Those turkeys tell me it is now in the U200 package (that I downgraded from just 2-3 months ago.
Well, did they notify me of the channel change? Heck NO! So, I upgrade again and they tell me that it required a technician to come to the house because of a difference in equipment. Not only did I not get tonight's game, but they cannot send anyone out til Nov 4th. I will miss the first 3 games.
Had I known of the change I could have done this upgrade over a week ago and not missed a damn game.
Did I say I was ticked?
I have AT&T U-verse (the U100 package). Comcast SportsNet CA has been included in this package since I signed up over 10 months ago.
Well, I get home from work in time to watch part of the 3rd qtr, but I get a message that I am not subscibed for the channel, so I called right away. Those turkeys tell me it is now in the U200 package (that I downgraded from just 2-3 months ago.
Well, did they notify me of the channel change? Heck NO! So, I upgrade again and they tell me that it required a technician to come to the house because of a difference in equipment. Not only did I not get tonight's game, but they cannot send anyone out til Nov 4th. I will miss the first 3 games.
Had I known of the change I could have done this upgrade over a week ago and not missed a damn game.
Did I say I was ticked?
keflanag
Bench
Am I the only one in the Sac area who go the game in HD? I was shocked since I thought only home games were in HD. The first 5 minutes were all grainy and stretched, but by the time the game started it was a full HD picture (clearly some bugs they didn't work out since they didn't have a pre-season).
Anyway, I have AT&T U-Verse and the game was in HD on channel 1767 (CSC-HD)
Anyway, I have AT&T U-Verse and the game was in HD on channel 1767 (CSC-HD)
I got the same sort of thing on Comcast in Davis, I assume it was the same thing that you saw. The picture was in the 16:9 widescreen ratio but the source feed was pretty clearly not 1080i - it looked like 480p, which is the same resolution I get out of my DVD player. When the game ended and the feed switched to the Sharks game (definitely HD) there was a noticeable improvement for me.
Still, the quality was far, far better than watching it on the SD channel (above and beyond the widescreen aspect ratio). I'm beginning not to suspect but to become completely convinced that HD converters are "rigged" to degrade SD signal quality in order to push the move to HD - HD is better, but SD isn't as bad as the HD converters make it look. Last night's "SD-over-the-HD channel" (remember that they didn't do that last year) and the quality of a known 480p signal from my DVD player convince me that the SD channels I get are highly degraded, probably intentionally.
Why, back in my day we couldn't watch a basketball game on this newfangled television stuff! We didn't even have RADIOS! We had to listen to the game come over a telegraph, translating a bunch of 'dits' and 'dahs' into the score in our heads. And we LIKED IT that way! We didn't know who scored the basket or pulled down a rebound - if we wanted that information we had to wait for the boxscore to arrive by PONY EXPRESS! As soon as the boxscores for the month came in, we'd pore through them, then we'd go out into the street, and write what we thought about our team with STICKS in the DIRT so that other people could read it...until it got windy or the horses came through...none of this "internet" jazz...and we LIKED IT that way!
It isn't that HD converters are designed to make SD look bad, its that they are optimized to make HD look good and also to take advantage of modern display capabilities which SD wasn't, conversely the old SD sets had tweaks built into them to optimize the picture for SD and to cover its flaws. I don't mind SD so much if I watch it on an old CRT, unfortunately my big screen CRT blew up and I replaced it with an LCD HDTV set that looks awful showing SD so my choice is that or the 20" set in the guest bedroom.
keflanag
Bench
Very possible. At least it was the widescreen feed, and not some stretched version of the 4:3 SD feed.
Well, you would think that they could actually optimize for either depending on the type of signal, but I don't know enough about the guts of the machines to say that with perfect confidence. Perhaps there's a lot of circuitry/large cost involved that makes it only plausible to have one optimized signal pathway rather than two. What I can say is that a 480p signal from the converter box is horrible and a 480p signal from my DVD player is quite nice, so it's not the TV, it's the box or earlier.
With DVD you are going straight from the source to your tv with a box optimized for one standard resolution, not so with cable where those boxes are supposed to deal with 3 different resolutions and you're losing signal quality every step of the way from broadcast to reception by the cable co, to delivery to your house, into the box and then to your tv. Most DVDs are encoded so they are best viewed on wide screen sets as well, even if it is only SD whereas standard def cable content is encoded to be viewed on a 4:3 screen. Compare a non anamorphic widescreen DVD to cable and the quality is a lot closer.
I will say that I have disabled 480p output on my cable box for SD and send it the 480i signal untouched and let my TV's deinterlacer handle it. This also gives me more flexibility with how it is displayed in my TV's menu (the 480p is always stretched on one of my sets). You could also get a dedicated scaler/deinterlacer if getting the best possible SD content is that important to you. The cheapest one is probably about $600 and change though:
http://www.amazon.com/DVDO-EDGE-Hig...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256851756&sr=8-1
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