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KingMilz
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Never really gave a crap about NFL but I must say seeing Aussie/Samoan Jarred "Plane"Hayne (reigning Rugby League MVP) light it up in his first preseason game for the 49ers got me a tiny bit interested. Loved watching the dude play Rugby League and for his first game ever pretty surprising what he did even if it were against lesser opposition than what you would see in a regular season game. There are some dynamic athletes in rugby league right now and the physicality in RL is far greater than NFL.
I wish Jonah Lomu would have given NFL a shot dude was the biggest freak athlete in Rugby Union history one team offered him a deal but he turned it down to keep playing Union and than dudes kidneys failed him and he had to retire. I was actually fortunate enough to meet him as a kid.
I wish Jonah Lomu would have given NFL a shot dude was the biggest freak athlete in Rugby Union history one team offered him a deal but he turned it down to keep playing Union and than dudes kidneys failed him and he had to retire. I was actually fortunate enough to meet him as a kid.
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KingMilz
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Hayne plane at it again, I read somewhere the 49ers are actually really impressed with his ability to tackle as well that he will probably be a lock for there special teams.
As a Niner fan, it makes me feel good to see the Raiders continue doing Raider things. Also, as I find the Cowboys annoying as all get-out (or maybe just many of their fans), I was sad to see the Giants blow the game at the end. Just run down the clock on third down and kick the FG. Argh. Glad Seattle lost, though.
And no, I don't expect anything from the Niners this year. They will pleasantly surprise me if they go 0.500.
And no, I don't expect anything from the Niners this year. They will pleasantly surprise me if they go 0.500.
luckynuMBer10
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As one of potentially only a few Cowboys fans on this board, I am glad that the Boys of Big D were able to pull it off in the end. Not having Dez for a few weeks is gonna suck, though.
uolj
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Seriously! After yet another clutch performance from Romo I still don't know why people believe in him.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
For every clutch performance, there are multiple (2 or more) choke performances. That's why.Seriously! After yet another clutch performance from Romo I still don't know why people believe in him.
uolj
Starter
I actually don't think that's true, but I can understand why people have that impression.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
Then you certainly haven't watched enough Cowboys games when it mattered/matters the most (December, January).
uolj
Starter
I've watched enough and I've also seen enough data that I trust that over a fan's memory. I understand if you don't like the ups and downs of a clutch quarterback (as all clutch quarterbacks also have stinky performances when it matters), especially one with heartbreaking losses like Romo, but it seems pretty clear according to the evidence he is actually very good overall when it matters.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
I never said he is a bad quarterback; he actually is a very good quarterback. What I said was, however, that I do not believe in the guy. He is a darn good quarterback if you want your team to get to the post season. He hasn't shown me enough to declare that I believe he can take us to the Super Bowl. That is what I am saying.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
Basically, all I am saying here is.......Tony Romo is a good quarterback; Tony Romo is not a great quarterback.
uolj
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Yeah, well, not a bad start huh?
Plenty of concerns, of course, and I'm not sure Minnesota is that great, but it sure seems like the defense might still be good and I love what Hyde was able to do consistently getting big gains.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
Not to downplay last night's performance or anything, but as uolj mentioned, Minnesota is not that great. The Niners went out and did exactly what they were supposed to do, and that was to take care of a crappy team. Let's see how well they fare against the real competition.Yeah, well, not a bad start huh?
Plenty of concerns, of course, and I'm not sure Minnesota is that great, but it sure seems like the defense might still be good and I love what Hyde was able to do consistently getting big gains.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
That win last night was amazing!!!!! Any win against the Sheagles is amazing!!!!!!!!
luckynuMBer10
G-League
Because I like the Cowboys.
I quit reading after the word "but"... Sorry, Cowboys fan, but I learned eons ago not to pay any attention to anything said with that kind of passive/aggressive disclaimer. You sound way too much like Laker fan IMHO.
I am a Niners fan. I will celebrate every single win just as I have for a very long time. I'll be blunt - I don't care what a fan of another team thinks and, because you're new here, I'll give you fair warning. I care about the Niners almost as much as I care about the Kings.
luckynuMBer10
G-League
I'm sorry if I came across as a jerk. That was not my intention at all. My point was that the Vikings are not a good team, and I, personally, don't like to get too excited about beating a sub par team. I say that about the Cowboys all the time. And, honestly, I will say the same about the Kings when the time comes.I quit reading after the word "but"... Sorry, Cowboys fan, but I learned eons ago not to pay any attention to anything said with that kind of passive/aggressive disclaimer. You sound way too much like Laker fan IMHO.
I am a Niners fan. I will celebrate every single win just as I have for a very long time. I'll be blunt - I don't care what a fan of another team thinks and, because you're new here, I'll give you fair warning. I care about the Niners almost as much as I care about the Kings.
I'm sorry, but I, personally, can't get too excited about any of my teams beating those teams they're supposed to beat.
You can enjoy your win as much as you like. I ain't stopping ya. I was just stating my opinion.
ForlornKing
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Despite what you think, 99% of people would agree the 49ers weren't "supposed" to beat the Vikings.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
When did the Vikings become a team they weren't supposed to beat?
ForlornKing
Starter
When the Niners became the team that wasn't supposed to really beat anyone. Did you catch any of them in preseason? Horrible!
Going into the game, for the Vikings the return of AP was huge. Supposedly good defense. Good young QB.
No way in hell were the Niners a shoe in to beat the Vikings...... Not even saying that the Vikings were "supposed" to beat the Niners. IMO it was a toss up at the least.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
People make too much out of preseason...you can't evaluate a team in the preseason. Preseason is to evaluate your teams depth.
ForlornKing
Starter
Lol Just stop. Preseason isn't even the main reason at all.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
You stated that the 49ers were horrible in the preseason which lead up to your assumption that they wouldn't be able to beat a Minnesota Vikings team that hasn't had Peterson play in one season and playing a second year QB who can't even throw the ball with no receivers to speak of. Where am I wrong here?
uolj
Starter
Vikings were favored by 2.5 points or so. Doesn't matter why, they were favored.
Now, if 49ers fans want to hold out hope that the team is good and can make the playoffs, then yes, they should be able to beat the Vikings at home. But the general expectation is that the 49ers are not a playoff team. Therefore, the win was "something to be excited about".
However, there's also the seemingly minor but apparently important point that some fans like to celebrate any and every win. So, yeah, a pretty decisive win against a team favored to beat you is probably worth some red font and a smiley face.
Now, if 49ers fans want to hold out hope that the team is good and can make the playoffs, then yes, they should be able to beat the Vikings at home. But the general expectation is that the 49ers are not a playoff team. Therefore, the win was "something to be excited about".
However, there's also the seemingly minor but apparently important point that some fans like to celebrate any and every win. So, yeah, a pretty decisive win against a team favored to beat you is probably worth some red font and a smiley face.
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