New Trades Vs New Kings

[pdxKingsFan]

LA Brought In Lebron and won the championship right away.

Missing the playoffs for the first time in LeBron's career since his rookie season is "right away"?

They won after trading for AD, a move that has since crippled the franchise. did we have an AD move out there that would guarantee us a ring this year that might be another decade of losing?

 

[NewArena]

Or that sense of urgency is why those teams are not having a 16-year playoff drought? Honestly I am bit surprised Monte didn't do a single thing to solidify our position given we are having the best chance in 16 years to reach the playoffs. It's not like he treasures those 2nd picks anyway.

His aggression is why we’re in the 3rd spot right now though.

 

[macadocious]

I find it interesting that we are subscribing some specific philosophy to Monte McNair. At first he was passive, then he was a middle manager, then he was wreckless, now he's passive.

It's all LOL

Unless we break into the top 8, and or future picks, we have no assets to speak of.

So if we finish 2, 5 or 7. We have dramatically improved. We have a solid core, we have a growing rookie, we have a coaching staff that I feel comfortable saying is top 5 in the league and we are aligned from Vivke, to MK, to FO, to the Coaching staff to star players...for the first time maybe ever?

We have much more ability to improve this summer, after the 2023 pick is made.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I find it interesting that we are subscribing some specific philosophy to Monte McNair. At first he was passive, then he was a middle manager, then he was wreckless, now he's passive.

The word I ascribe to Monte is intentional.

We may have not seen Hali for Domas coming, but there was a lot of smoke Domas was a player Monte coveted. We may not have seen Davion being drafted, but there was a trend for him to value players of "value" over reaching at projects. We saw that DDV was a player Monte liked and he continued to work on bringing him here, until he did and then decided to move on. But he got a look and decided it wasn't the fit.

I have no doubts Monte had a list of guys he'd have moved mountains for and either they weren't available or (more likely) we didn't have the resources to acquire them.

 

[Section 101]

What do you think will happen to our "Chemistry" If we dont resign Barnes and lose him for nothing? There are two options with Barnes, Either we overpay or he leaves after the season. One way or another hes not part of our long term plans, he cant be.

Why? He signed a fair deal last time.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Or that sense of urgency is why those teams are not having a 16-year playoff drought? Honestly I am bit surprised Monte didn't do a single thing to solidify our position given we are having the best chance in 16 years to reach the playoffs. It's not like he treasures those 2nd picks anyway.

Oh stop. That's just a false conclusion, easily proven wrong.

For instance, the KINGS were busy with a sense of urgency last trade deadline and during many others -- and DIDN'T qualify for the postseason. And there will be some teams that were active this deadline that won't make it either, or will be in the play-in then done.

Conversely, the KINGS didn't make any moves this deadline (other than the one they made days ago) and have great odds of qualifying considering where the are now.

The KINGS playoff drought is predominantly due to multiple strings of failed draft selections and general dysfunction within the front office and ownership, not because they were or weren't active and aggressive at the trade deadline.

That's nonsense.

 

[Das_Boot]

Chemistry is over rated! Talent Triumphs Chemistry any day of the week

I can think of a couple USA teams who would disagree with that statement.

 

[SacTownKid]

With all due respect, and remember I'm saying with all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.

Talent triumphs [sic] chemistry? How did that work for Brooklyn? The reason we are third in the west is precisely because we play as a team. You think everyone poses for #beamteam because they're contractually obligated? I love this iteration of our team, and I say this realizing I expected us to fight for the play-in, but they're winning because they play for each other. That's just one reason for why Coach Brown should be COY. It's the same thinking that says players not coaching make a winning team.

I'm not saying talent doesn't count, but if you take OKC and Houston as an example, both teams are "talented." They have young players that were high draft picks. I would rather have Daigneault over Silas - he has them playing as a unit, and they may be really good in short order. Silas doesn't seem to have the room locked in.

My point is we have talent AND chemistry. We have a head coach who is more than competent. We will probably lose Coach Jordi in the off-season. Why try and wreck it by removing key pieces when we've JUST NOW established a winning culture? Let the sauce marinate. This team isn't broken, it just needs a little tweaking.

Unless you have two MVP level talents what you do largely depends on what those other teams do unfortunately. When it comes to titles, talent is literally all that counts. Coaches just can't afford to misuse players and De'Aarons career is the proving ground on that one. The Nets trashing success is on them. They bid for Kyrie and blinked. They made they're bed. That's on them for not extending him. History typically shows the way and if you can find a team similar to another and a path to success, you take it if your personnel lines up. This Kings team has talent, but the last team that won a chip with only one player taking more than 11-12 shots per game? There isn't one that I can recall. Not in the modern era at least and as I said the Pistons of the mid 2000's is the one that comes close but they were ELITE defensively. Like all teams on the rise at some point there is indeed some level of consolidation that must occur within your teams offense unless you're a literal all star team where you can spread shots around that evenly and still compete talent for talent. In the playoffs who goes toe to toe with KD, Tatum, Bron, etc.? TD? Monk? Team effort always seems to go out the window in the end and the stars shine. We've seen what this team looks like without Fox already.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

3rd place is definitely fools gold. They're a playoff caliber team but they definitely aren't the 3rd best team in the west by the end of the season.

No, it's not. As Bill Parcells once famously uttered "you are what your record says you are". Especially 2/3rd's through the season.

Does that mean the KINGS will finish in 3rd? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not likely. But that still doesn't change the fact that where they are now was earned and completely legit.

And there's no "definitives" at this point in time. You're making assumptions on things that haven't played out yet. Maybe it'll play out exactly as you predict, but perhaps it won't.

As a hardcore Miami Dolphins fan, I recall a lot of naysayers telling me before and even early on during the season that there was "no chance Tyreek Hill could produce anywhere near the same numbers playing with Tua Tagavailoa as he did with Patrick Mahomes".

Uh huh. Sure.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

LOVE this post and perspective. No one expected us to be here. A bunch of Laker-like panic moves from our front office as if we’re in a video game would have been fun but only for a few hours.

Monte and company have work to do but doing it all in one night is impossible and unnecessary. Let’s see what the buyout market will bring.

Its funny you bring up the Lakers. The lakers had plenty of young talent before they mortgaged the future and went all in. Do you know what that got them? A Freakin Championship Ring! How many bad seasons would you go though to get one ring? I dont think LA Is a good example of what not to do. Maybe in the future who knows but regardless they won a championship by mortgaging the future. Id trade everyone on the team right now to win a championship this year and suck another 10 years. Whats another 10 years to us kings fans lol. Give me a Ring!

 

[SacTownKid]

No, it's not. As Bill Parcells once famously uttered "you are what your record says you are". Especially 2/3rd's through the season.

Does that mean the KINGS will finish in 3rd? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not likely. But that still doesn't change the fact that where they are now was earned and completely legit.

And there's no "definitives" at this point in time. You're making assumptions on things that haven't played out yet. Maybe it'll play out exactly as you predict, but perhaps it won't.

As a hardcore Miami Dolphins fan, I recall a lot of naysayers telling me before and even early on during the season that there was "no chance Tyreek Hill could produce anywhere near the same numbers playing with Tua Tagavailoa as he did with Patrick Mahomes".

Uh huh. Sure.

What's the Kings record against +.500 teams? Did it go up. I know a few weeks back it sure looked like the Kings were gobbling up the winnable ones.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Unless you have two MVP level talents what you do largely depends on what those other teams do unfortunately. When it comes to titles, talent is literally all that counts. Coaches just can't afford to misuse players and De'Aarons career is the proving ground on that one. The Nets trashing success is on them. They bid for Kyrie and blinked. They made they're bed. That's on them for not extending him. History typically shows the way and if you can find a team similar to another and a path to success, you take it if your personnel lines up. This Kings team has talent, but the last team that won a chip with only one player taking more than 11-12 shots per game? There isn't one that I can recall. Not in the modern era at least and as I said the Pistons of the mid 2000's is the one that comes close but they were ELITE defensively. Like all teams on the rise at some point there is indeed some level of consolidation that must occur within your teams offense unless you're a literal all star team where you can spread shots around that evenly and still compete talent for talent. In the playoffs who goes toe to toe with KD, Tatum, Bron, etc.? TD? Monk? Team effort always seems to go out the window in the end and the stars shine. We've seen what this team looks like without Fox already.

You know the beautiful thing about trading all your young talent for superstars? you can still trade the superstars again and get picks for them. Brok Got how many picks for Kyri and Durant? Dont act like they are in a terrible place now. They got Durant and it didnt work out, now they are set for the future again. You trade your assets while they are hot

 

[SacTownKid]

Its funny you bring up the Lakers. The lakers had plenty of young talent before they mortgaged the future and went all in. Do you know what that got them? A Freakin Championship Ring! How many bad seasons would you go though to get one ring? I dont think LA Is a good example of what not to do. Maybe in the future who knows but regardless they won a championship by mortgaging the future. Id trade everyone on the team right now to win a championship this year and suck another 10 years. Whats another 10 years to us kings fans lol. Give me a Ring!

True, but also when you have one of the greatest of all time and two MVP contenders it gives you a lot more leeway haha. What happens on draft night will show us what Monte's doing here. By then all the dust on this season will have settled and they'll for sure know where they stand in the pecking order. The Huerter trade kind of did hamstring McNair's ability to make any major deals this deadline. On draft night things open up a little.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Missing the playoffs for the first time in LeBron's career since his rookie season is "right away"?

They won after trading for AD, a move that has since crippled the franchise. did we have an AD move out there that would guarantee us a ring this year that might be another decade of losing?

PDX but we are not asking for Lebron and AD moves. Im asking for Barnes, and mid teer moves to possibly get a upper teir player. How is Moving Barnes Mortgaging the future?

 

[Mad D]

I can think of a couple USA teams who would disagree with that statement.

Reminds me of the saying that sports teams aren't math they are chemistry.

 

[SacTownKid]

Reminds me of the saying that sports teams aren't math they are chemistry.

If only the NBA were a sport, lol.

 

[reptilexcq2]

Kings got Kessler...yike lol. I seriously thought the Kings need a big man inside to defend teams like Jokic, we have nobody that can guard him basically....I am talking about when Sabonis sit.

 

[Kingz19]

Well, I sat on it for a few hours and I’m still disappointed and feel like rambling for wayyy too long.

I think most of us had pretty modest expectations for the trade deadline and it’s a little disappointing that they failed to even reach that.

To get the most dramatic I’ll be in this post out of the way first, it’s almost arrogant that the Kings decided they are cool while everybody else, including teams ahead of them in the standings did things to improve their roster when the Kings had so obvious and specific shortcomings that could’ve been addressed in a meaningful way with very modest moves.

I don’t see the argument that it’s OK if the Kings continue to not have a proper big man to relieve your star center who’s playing with a broken thumb and can’t leave the floor for 3 minutes without the team falling apart not just as an offense but on the boards. A guy like Plumlee was only considered the ideal guy, but I don’t think anybody imagined noon would arrive today and the Kings wouldn’t have addressed this in ANY way.

Listening to the local talking heads for the Kings, only Cattles had a decent take on it. Everybody else is like “Mason Plumlee isn’t winning you a championship” or “Mattise Thybulle isn’t going to suddenly make you the best defensive team in the league” so who cares? As if the goal was to ascend about everybody else or it’s not worth it. Would it make a difference? is the question.

We often talk about how much better the Kings would be if they were merely average defensively or if they had more guys that could rebound or if they had a wide range of personnel to play against any type of matchup. Some nights Metu isn’t playable. Some nights Lyles is outmatched but we have no real other options. The bench is normally not very good. The rebounding sucks as does the defense every night. A good addition to the bench CAN make that little bit meaningful difference..especially when it’s only a little bit that is preventing your team from reaching a higher notch.

Nobody expected a blockbuster. Nobody expected a star. Nobody expected something that would shoot the Kings to the top of the standings. I had no expectation they would be able to unload Holmes. However, every night win or lose we are shouting at our TV over the same exact things and they weren’t addressed today.

If it takes a massive roster overhaul to improve the rebounding and defense to an acceptable level that it doesn’t risk negating a great offense every night, then this team isn’t it. It wouldn’t have taken that. I would’ve liked to find out how much better the Kings could’ve been with a real backup center and playable backup wing(maybe Kessler we’ll see)

Plus, the Kings should be tinkering with the 7-12 spots to get a better idea to see what type of players can or will work in this system. What type of impact would a legitimate big make off the bench? What style of big man is best? Another ball handler? More wing defenders?

Kings aren’t able to fully explore their play style and matchup possibilities as constructed because they flat out don’t even have certain style/type of players on their roster most other teams have tucked away somewhere. Atleast none that are playable.

Hopefully they have plans for Kessler Edwards and that wasn’t just a business move because then they would’ve atleast tried to address some of the stuff if they play the guy. If he can make an open three pointer I see no reason we shouldn’t see him.

Not feeling the buyout market.

Things may get pretty heated from the fans the next time the Kings can’t get a rebound, can’t find anybody to put on a reserve wing or stretch 4 that is lighting them up, there is a layup line, and the bench collectively has an awful game. That’s basically sure to happen soon since it happens almost every game regardless of the result.

it will get downright ugly if the Kings fall out of the top 6. We shall see.



There are positives: This was the deadline of the second round pick. Teams are starting to value those more. Kings still have a lot of those because they didn’t make any trades. That can work out in their favor down the line. I wish they traded some of them though.

 

[The_Jamal]

If I'm going to grade our deadline, I'm going C-.

The fact Monte didn't feel the pressure to shove all-in and try to keep up with the Jones's is a good thing. PDX has a great word and Monte is very intentional with how he makes moves. If something isn't in his long-term vision he's not going to do it. We were the most active team at the deadline last year and did nothing this year. That suggests there's a blueprint in place and we're not deviating from that plan.

There's also something to be said that the Kings have their best team in probably 18 years and are the 3 seed in the West 54 games into the year. And from all accounts a team that loves playing together and loves playing for Coach Brown only 1 year into the tenure. That's very very good and worth continuing to build on. It feels like Monte and co valued the continuity of the current group over making minor upgrades.

The price tags on some of these role players were down-right foolish. 5 2nd rounders for Crowder?? 4 for J-Rich? I love GPII but FIVE 2nd rounders for him?? 5 for Saddiq Bey?? 3 for Thomas Bryant??? Like jesus christ, we're talking about 8th man+ type role players here. Probably the only 2 trades I'm really bummed on is the Bones for 2 2nds and Plumlee getting dealt for an expiring (no picks??) and then CHA just buying-out Reggie. That's the deal that hurts and really feels like if we offered our expiring package+ a 2nd or 2, we get Plumlee.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Arrogant is a nice way of putting it. Even Coach Brown just stated everyone in the west got better. Yet we decided to do nothing. People say last years moves are the reason we are here today, that is correct. This years non moves may be a reason we are not here tomorrow

 

[funkykingston]

Meh, we'll see what happens.

My only hope entering this season was that the Kings end their playoff drought. They're still in a position to do that.

The Suns made themselves contenders. But only if they can stay healthy. Which is huge since they also reduced their depth. Right now they are losing to the Hawks and won't have KD back until after the all-star break. And they are capped out with just 5 players next season even if they part ways with CP3 since he has a $15M partial guarantee.
The Mavs gave Luka someone to take pressure off and lower his usage. But they didn't fix any other issues, and that's before you consider the deleterious effect Kyrie has had at other stops and the fact that he can leave as a FA.
The Clippers shored up some holes. But like the Suns with Durant, they need a healthy Kawhi to be a real contender.
The Lakers added some nice pieces and they jettisoned Russ. But they also need to stay healthy and are further back in the standings than the rest of the pack.

Of all of them, I think Dallas is most likely to hit the ground running and get better quickly in the short term. The rest have a lot of question marks, mostly around health/availability.

 

[The_Jamal]

Meh, we'll see what happens.

My only hope entering this season was that the Kings end their playoff drought. They're still in a position to do that.

The Suns made themselves contenders. But only if they can stay healthy. Which is huge since they also reduced their depth. Right now they are losing to the Hawks and won't have KD back until after the all-star break. And they are capped out with just 5 players next season even if they part ways with CP3 since he has a $15M partial guarantee.
The Mavs gave Luka someone to take pressure off and lower his usage. But they didn't fix any other issues, and that's before you consider the deleterious effect Kyrie has had at other stops and the fact that he can leave as a FA.
The Clippers shored up some holes. But like the Suns with Durant, they need a healthy Kawhi to be a real contender.
The Lakers added some nice pieces and they jettisoned Russ. But they also need to stay healthy and are further back in the standings than the rest of the pack.

Of all of them, I think Dallas is most likely to hit the ground running and get better quickly in the short term. The rest have a lot of question marks, mostly around health/availability.

Yeah it'll be interesting how well you can integrate a KD and a Kyrie mid-season with other massive USG stars already on the team. Seems like a tough to task without a training camp/off-season to immediately gell and start winning as they should. Thinking like those first 20 or so games of the Bron/Wade/Bosh Heat that struggled a bit before they found their groove and started killing everyone.

And agreed on LAC. Depth wasn't their problem. They probably had the most talented team 1-10 in the NBA. It's always been on if Kawhi/PG can make it through a season and be healthy during the playoffs.

If Luka/Kyrie share the ball, that's a downright scary offensive duo. But trading DFS creates a massive hole on their already bad defense. They need Kleber back in the worst way and that's still probably not enough to cover Kyrie/Luka/Hardaway/Wood

 

[Fantazija]

Im very disappointed we didn't make a move. Like I was saying in the other chat, The Good Teams make moves while they are on top with the leverage, not when the suck and the value of the players are low. This would have been a perfect time to move on from Barnes, the now fan fav. He is who we thought he was. Amazing games followed by disappearing acts, and its in stretches not just game by game.

I just hope we can keep up. Like some said, we are one injury away "Knock on Wood" I also wouldn't compare anyone we have on the squad to LBJ's presence regarding injury's.[/QUOTE

Question, First we would have to resign Barnes First. Second, Do you think Barnes is going to improve his worth between now and offseason? History Tells me that no hes not going to improve his worth what so ever and im surprised we got him this far. We waited too long on Buddy and could have gotten a good piece all by himself instead of a throw in. I just dont see Barnes as a glue guy

Barnes as a 3rd option - no, Barnes as a glue guy - yes.Problem with that is he will be too expensive most likely to be 4th or 5th best player on the team

 

[Ozymandias]

I think we made our trade deadline moves this year in the summer when things were cheaper.. Mainly drafting Murray n trading for Huerter.

Now here at the deadline, sitting in 3rd. I believe we're taking a step back for a more long-term approach.

N I think theres a strong case to be made that the Kings have been prudent in both windows of opportunity, and managed not to overpay.


Which I think is probably really a good thing. We're zigging when other teams are zagging. It's not like we didnt trade some draft picks to make this team better already, a future first was sent to Atlanta for Huerter.


I really do think too that the years on Richaun's contract is a bigger factor than people realize.. Why would teams let us off the hook with Richaun for cheap? doesnt make sense.. N so the actual potential cost of other assets ontop of Richaun to move him, simply it's too much. If there's anything to be let down by, other than the fact that the power shifted severely from east to wesgt, which is out of our hands, is that we dont have richauns salary to spend on the free market in the summer, he's still here, thats really the big letdown IMO.

It's not like the Kings hands are totally tied either, we can still shuffle things around. We still have Queta.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I think we made our trade deadline moves this year in the summer when things were cheaper.. Mainly drafting Murray n trading for Huerter.

Now here at the deadline, sitting in 3rd. I believe we're taking a step back for a more long-term approach.

N I think theres a strong case to be made that the Kings have been prudent in both windows of opportunity, and managed not to overpay.


Which I think is probably really a good thing. We're zigging when other teams are zagging. It's not like we didnt trade some draft picks to make this team better already, a future first was sent to Atlanta for Huerter.


I really do think too that the years on Richaun's contract is a bigger factor than people realize.. Why would teams let us off the hook with Richaun for cheap? doesnt make sense.. N so the actual potential cost of other assets ontop of Richaun to move him, simply it's too much. If there's anything to be let down by, other than the fact that the power shifted severely from east to wesgt, which is out of our hands, is that we dont have richauns salary to spend on the free market in the summer, he's still here, thats really the big letdown IMO.

It's not like the Kings hands are totally tied either, we can still shuffle things around. We still have Queta.

Why would teams let the Lakers off the hook, for their bad position with some players?

 

[Ozymandias]

The kings have performed far too well for Barnes to be traded away in desperation. We're playing with house money here!!

Thats honestly the type of move that people who arent used to winning would do to sabotage themselves when things are going fine.

The idea that Barnes isnt aggressive enoguh too... I think thats actually a criticism on Coach Brown, rather than Barnes, I think if Coach Brown told Barnes to let it fly, he'd let it fly.. What I see on the court is that Coach Brown has told Barnes the opposite, step up in big moments, pick your spots when we need to steady the ship n otherwise stand down a bit to help cohesion n get everyone going.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

I think we made our trade deadline moves this year in the summer when things were cheaper.. Mainly drafting Murray n trading for Huerter.

Now here at the deadline, sitting in 3rd. I believe we're taking a step back for a more long-term approach.

N I think theres a strong case to be made that the Kings have been prudent in both windows of opportunity, and managed not to overpay.


Which I think is probably really a good thing. We're zigging when other teams are zagging. It's not like we didnt trade some draft picks to make this team better already, a future first was sent to Atlanta for Huerter.


I really do think too that the years on Richaun's contract is a bigger factor than people realize.. Why would teams let us off the hook with Richaun for cheap? doesnt make sense.. N so the actual potential cost of other assets ontop of Richaun to move him, simply it's too much. If there's anything to be let down by, other than the fact that the power shifted severely from east to wesgt, which is out of our hands, is that we dont have richauns salary to spend on the free market in the summer, he's still here, thats really the big letdown IMO.

It's not like the Kings hands are totally tied either, we can still shuffle things around. We still have Queta.

If a team got rid of Walls contract, then Holmes contract is like paying the water boy.

Any Trade can easily rejuvenate a team to stay on there freakin toes. Weve been real last lately going 5 - 5 against scrubs and losing 3 back to back team games is ridiculous. Trading someone would have sent a message. Especially after all the complaining Brown has been doing about defense and rebounds

 

[Rob-The-Great]

The kings have performed far too well for Barnes to be traded away in desperation. We're playing with house money here!!

Thats honestly the type of move that people who arent used to winning would do to sabotage themselves when things are going fine.

The idea that Barnes isnt aggressive enoguh too... I think thats actually a criticism on Coach Brown, rather than Barnes, I think if Coach Brown told Barnes to let it fly, he'd let it fly.. What I see on the court is that Coach Brown has told Barnes the opposite, step up in big moments, pick your spots when we need to steady the ship n otherwise stand down a bit to help cohesion n get everyone going.

Sir its not desperation. Its trading while a player is hot instead of when he is down. What better time than this year has there ever been to trade Barnes. Hes not that guy, he's already shown that. Sabonis, fox and murray are the reason we are where we are with a shot out to Monk for sparking the bench.

 

[Ozymandias]

Why would teams let the Lakers off the hook, for their bad position with some players?

The Wolves are operating on the assumption that if they can fix things internally their team will perform just fine, which makes some sense.

SO pretty much, the Lakers pose no threat to most of the teams they dealt with today.

The Nuggets-Thomas Bryant trade is kind of a sideways move with Bamba's acquisition. The Lakers obviously pose no threat to Denver.

Lakers and Utah are just 2 teams on polar opposite timelines. N the Wizards are in the east.

Lakers are kind of getting a bunch of hand-me-downs here too when you look at it. These players were all sorta drafted over/replacable.

 

[Ozymandias]

If a team got rid of Walls contract, then Holmes contract is like paying the water boy.

Any Trade can easily rejuvenate a team to stay on there freakin toes. Weve been real last lately going 5 - 5 against scrubs and losing 3 back to back team games is ridiculous. Trading someone would have sent a message. Especially after all the complaining Brown has been doing about defense and rebounds

Yeah but then its also a matter of we need to acquire a backup C.. N the fact that Holmes deal has 2 years really does muck this all up.. Its kind of a 'non-starter'.... I woulda hated to have seen us get price gouged to unload him... then we get smacked in the 2nd rd of the playoffs anyways, our longterm outlook doesnt need that.

6'10 c's like Holmes are a dime a dozen.. players like that have been falling down draft boards for decades now because there's an overabundance. Stands to reason teams arent gonna be lining up to take that contract without trying to gouge the Kings. N really Holmes isnt THAT bad. We ride it out and now he's an expiring next year, n the contract is much more palatable to other teams in deals.

How many Wins does replacing our backup C really move the needle the rest of the way.. I definitely counted 2-3 wins we coulda had with a better backup C so far, but does that mean we'll even have 2-3 more opportunites to get more winslike that in just the short final furlongs of the season? Unsure.