Nets taking Wes Johnson

[Entity]

Even more interesting is I see more mock drafts with us taking Cousins. DX and NBADraft.net included

I like that year after year DX has been spot on come draft night with the top 10. The top 5 are almost 100% the last few years.

 

[sauce-26]

The same can be said for Landry that he's an energy player off the bench, he's shown he's just as effective starting as he is off the bench although from what I've seen he's even more effective coming off the bench and so is JT but if you have Cousins as that big who scores then JT rebounding and doing what he does then have Dally in for defense and laundry come in and you won't be losing any offense really.

Thing about Landry that is concerning as a starter is rebounding and he just is too small to guard the bigger PF's let's not forget Pau pretty much shot 80% against Landry both times.

Either way would be fine...no telling which line up would be most effective yet.

Landrys rebounding did go up the more minutes he played, as well as his points. Cousins is a great rebounder. JT did way better coming off the bench than he did starting. It seems he calms down and doesnt commit as many stupid fouls when he comes off the bench. Every player has weaknesses. When it comes down to landry and jt at the 4, Landry any day of the year.

 

[Chupacabra]

Landrys rebounding did go up the more minutes he played, as well as his points. Cousins is a great rebounder. JT did way better coming off the bench than he did starting. It seems he calms down and doesnt commit as many stupid fouls when he comes off the bench. Every player has weaknesses. When it comes down to landry and jt at the 4, Landry any day of the year.

I really feel that what JT brings to this team gets taken for granted. The thing about Thompson that is HUGE for us is that for the most part he plays center equally as well as he plays power forward. This gives the Kings a big advantage when it comes to their bigman rotation. JT really allows Westphal to customize his big man lineup.

 

[mr. moustache]

Early in the season he was a legitimate 16/10 guy. Then, for whatever reason, he just fell apart. I see him as a starter at the PF position longterm. I'd much rather see Landry come off the bench.

I really feel that what JT brings to this team gets taken for granted. The thing about Thompson that is HUGE for us is that for the most part he plays center equally as well as he plays power forward. This gives the Kings a big advantage when it comes to their bigman rotation. JT really allows Westphal to customize his big man lineup.

 

[sauce-26]

JT falls apart. You just said it. That is why petrie went out and got landry. He hasnt proven to me( I dont mind eating crow if he turns into a beast and becomes the 16 and 10 guy) yet that he can start. Ticky tac fouls and inconsistent scoring. Landry is way more consistent right now than thompson is. Its not like landry is old or getting old. He is still a young guy. JT is the perfect big off the bench. Energy is key with him. He hustles.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

JT falls apart. You just said it. That is why petrie went out and got landry. He hasnt proven to me( I dont mind eating crow if he turns into a beast and becomes the 16 and 10 guy) yet that he can start. Ticky tac fouls and inconsistent scoring. Landry is way more consistent right now than thompson is. Its not like landry is old or getting old. He is still a young guy. JT is the perfect big off the bench. Energy is key with him. He hustles.

he needs a big man coach to mentor him to fulfill his potential.

 

[Jechtsphere]

Landrys rebounding did go up the more minutes he played, as well as his points. Cousins is a great rebounder. JT did way better coming off the bench than he did starting. It seems he calms down and doesnt commit as many stupid fouls when he comes off the bench. Every player has weaknesses. When it comes down to landry and jt at the 4, Landry any day of the year.

Yup I think he himself said that coming off the bench allowed him to relax and just play and not worry about if he's gonna pick up quick fouls so he's just focused on playing his best.

 

[mr. moustache]

I think we got Landry because he was the BPA in a Martin trade. I don't see Landry as starting PF because of his poor rebounding. Next to Sam D. or Cousins it might look a little different, but I'd still rather see JT next to another good rebounder.

I love Landry's personality and game though, so I'm fine either way.

I don't think you can underestimate the importance of rebounding.

(trying to forget all the times JT came down with the ball and failed to finish)

JT falls apart. You just said it. That is why petrie went out and got landry. He hasnt proven to me( I dont mind eating crow if he turns into a beast and becomes the 16 and 10 guy) yet that he can start. Ticky tac fouls and inconsistent scoring. Landry is way more consistent right now than thompson is. Its not like landry is old or getting old. He is still a young guy. JT is the perfect big off the bench. Energy is key with him. He hustles.

 

[ElRey]

I wonder how valid this news leak about NJ taking Johnson is... I guess we'll see on Thursday.

 

[beb0p]

The Nets traded CDR to the Bucks today. Essentially gave him away for a future 2nd rd pick. The fact that the Nets isn't impressed with him is not news, but this trade leaves them with a big hole at the wing position, since the only option left - Courtney Lee, is even more underwhelming than CDR.

So either the Nets fill the void via the draft or via FA. If via FA, why the rush to trade now? Curious. Are they really targeting Johnson? Really?

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[hammystyle]

The Nets traded CDR to the Bucks today. Essentially gave him away for a future 2nd rd pick. The fact that the Nets isn't impressed with him is not news, but this trade leaves them with a big hole at the wing position, since the only option left - Courtney Lee, is even more underwhelming than CDR.

So either the Nets fill the void via the draft or via FA. If via FA, why the rush to trade now? Curious. Are they really targeting Johnson? Really?
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Couple things:
Courtney Lee is a lot better than CDR.
They also have Terrence Williams.

But still, your main point stands, they're thin on the wing.

 

[beb0p]

Couple things:
Courtney Lee is a lot better than CDR.
They also have Terrence Williams.

But still, your main point stands, they're thin on the wing.

Terrence Williams can only play one position at a time. I'm sure the Nets wouldn't mind having two Terrence Williams though, for they're very high on him.

I've seen the Nets played live. Courtney Lee sucks. That's all I have to say. Seeing them live, seeing Lee, CDR, Yi, Humphries, and Boone pretend to be basketball players on the court made me realize why the Nets were so god awful. They were so bad they brought Harris and Lopez down to their level. Boone was the absolute worse, just garbage. Lee only a hair better. Then CDR, Yi, and Humphries were at a level between suckiness and garbage. I never thought watching a live game could be so torturous, until I saw that gang.

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[joemama]

Jersey = Johnson

New Jersey has worked out Johnson, their gm says a possiblity, and today on hoopshype it says they will probably draft Johnson and go after Boozer in free agency (over other bigs like Amare).

Its obvious they are clearing out their wing for Johnson, that why they got rid of CDR.

 

[hammystyle]

Terrence Williams can only play one position at a time. I'm sure the Nets wouldn't mind having two Terrence Williams though, for they're very high on him.

I've seen the Nets played live. Courtney Lee sucks. That's all I have to say. Seeing them live, seeing Lee, CDR, Yi, Humphries, and Boone pretend to be basketball players on the court made me realize why the Nets were so god awful. They were so bad they brought Harris and Lopez down to their level. Boone was the absolute worse, just garbage. Lee only a hair better. Then CDR, Yi, and Humphries were at a level between suckiness and garbage. I never thought watching a live game could be so torturous, until I saw that gang.

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One game notwithstanding, Courtney Lee is a lot better than CDR.

 

[Kingstime]

New Jersey has worked out Johnson, their gm says a possiblity, and today on hoopshype it says they will probably draft Johnson and go after Boozer in free agency (over other bigs like Amare).

Its obvious they are clearing out their wing for Johnson, that why they got rid of CDR.

Yeah them clearing out CDR should be looked at as a marker that maybe this Johnson rumor isn't just hype and that they are seriously considering over spending on Carlos Boozer as well. BUt more power to them luckily for Mr. Boozer they have Brook Lopez who will provide a good mask for all his many deficiencies.

Tomorrow night cannot come soon enough...

 

[rainmaker]

WJ and Boozer have the same agent. Combine that with the trade of CDR, and all the rumors, I find it very believable that the Nets take WJ. Harris, WJ, and Lopez is a solid young trio, especially in the east. The fact WJ and Boozer share the same agent, just adds another element to this and makes it that much more plausible.

 

[beb0p]

One game notwithstanding, Courtney Lee is a lot better than CDR.

Perhaps by pure talent alone Lee is better than CDR (although that's debatable), but CDR was a better player for the Nets. One thing I'd give credit is that CDR and Lopez were the only ones who competed. Lee looked like he preferred to stay home. CDR at least tried to move the ball around and play within the offense, Lee just jacked up shots, many of them bad ones. CDR at least tried to defend, Lee was just going through the motion. These are things you don't see just looking at the stats. I don't know their stats, but it wouldn't surprise me to see that Lee scored more than CDR. I wouldn't want either guys on the Kings but if I have to choose one, I'd rather have CDR.

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[hammystyle]

Trade up to 3?

"Here’s the directive, and it really hasn’t changed: Rod Thorn, more than anything else today, is still trying to create the second full max slot in case LeBron says, 'Okay, I’m coming, and I’m bringing along so-and-so.' That’s the ticket, and we’ll say it again: If you’re in for a penny, you’re in for a pound. The Nets would have to use $16M of the $27M they have in cap room on LBJ, and his friend isn’t necessarily going to be had for the leftover $11M. So one day before the draft, everything is in play -- a Devin Harris salary dump, a trade down the first round to save a few million, and virtually anything that will maximize their chances of bagging the grand prize a week from Thursday. Can they pull it off? Who the hell knows? But it would basically put the Nets on a even playing field with the Knicks." .

Potentially we could rent our cap space to the Nets for the privlege of moving up from 5 to 3. I think we'd do this if we liked Favors a lot more than Cousins.

The Nets are an interesting case. Part of the reason they have moved Favors over Johnson is that he is a more attractive trade piece. They could sign LeBron then send Favors as S&T goodies for Bosh as well.

 

[ITSCdanimal]

All rumors and speculation aside, I honestly don't see why we aren't hearing more about the possiblity that Philly might deviate from the expected. I know that Turner is the concensus #2 pick, but of all the teams in the top 5, Philly seems to have the most obvious need, and that is for frontline help. Even if they are counting on Hawes to be their starting center, they are still awfully thin up front.

I know there have been no rumors that have Philly picking one of the two big men, and no mock drafts have them picking anyone but Turner; but it sure would make things interesting if they drafted for need at #2.

 

[beb0p]

I know there have been no rumors that have Philly picking one of the two big men, and no mock drafts have them picking anyone but Turner; but it sure would make things interesting if they drafted for need at #2.

If Chad Ford is to be believed, Doug Collins wants to draft a man, not a boy. Collins was said to be disappointed that Favors and Cousins still have ways to go maturity wise after meeting with them.

But no, I wouldn't be surprised if Philly takes a big man. I'd do the same if I'm the GM. But they seem to be in a win-now mode if the reports are to be believed.
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[Vlade4GM]

Everything points to them taking Turner, so I won't expect otherwise.

 

[hammystyle]

If Chad Ford is to be believed, Doug Collins wants to draft a man, not a boy. Collins was said to be disappointed that Favors and Cousins still have ways to go maturity wise after meeting with them.

But no, I wouldn't be surprised if Philly takes a big man. I'd do the same if I'm the GM. But they seem to be in a win-now mode if the reports are to be believed.
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I don't know if its win-now as much as Collins doing a little self realization that he is ill-suited and has no inclination to coach up a 18-19 year old lottery pick. He did an extremely poor job with Kwame Brown, and I'm sure did not enjoy the experience.

And of course, Evan Turner is a stud. If you fing yourself working ard to talk yourself out of a sure thing and into someone else...just take the sure thing.

 

[DocHolliday]

Amick updated on twitter that the Nets said that they are taking Favors if he is available, and that a pick for Wes Johnson would be "shocking".

So if the T Wolves want Johnson as reported that means Cousins goes to the KINGS!

 

[Bricklayer]

All rumors and speculation aside, I honestly don't see why we aren't hearing more about the possiblity that Philly might deviate from the expected. I know that Turner is the concensus #2 pick, but of all the teams in the top 5, Philly seems to have the most obvious need, and that is for frontline help. Even if they are counting on Hawes to be their starting center, they are still awfully thin up front.

I know there have been no rumors that have Philly picking one of the two big men, and no mock drafts have them picking anyone but Turner; but it sure would make things interesting if they drafted for need at #2.

Hawes/Brand/Speights = most of your minutes. Also they still kinda like Jason Smith as their 4th big. So that's already three young bigs and the Brand anchor around their necks. They could certianly use a stud there, but they are a deeper up front than they are at SG where they were often running two PG sets last year.

 

[hammystyle]

Hawes/Brand/Speights = most of your minutes. Also they still kinda like Jason Smith as their 4th big. So that's already three young bigs and the Brand anchor around their necks. They could certianly use a stud there, but they are a deeper up front than they are at SG where they were often running two PG sets last year.

They should draft Turner than trade Iggy for Jefferson.

 

[hrdboild]

I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.

It's funny because between Hawes and Brand, they'll have absolutely no shotblocking whatsoever. But really though, that starting lineup is a solid foundation for them if they go Turner. I think Iggy will be able to co-exist finely with him.

 

[SacKings7]

It's funny because between Hawes and Brand, they'll have absolutely no shotblocking whatsoever. But really though, that starting lineup is a solid foundation for them if they go Turner. I think Iggy will be able to co-exist finely with him.

Brand is short but he's actually a decent shotblocker because of his reach. At least he used to be, I haven't followed him since he left the Clippers

 

[hammystyle]

Brand is short but he's actually a decent shotblocker because of his reach. At least he used to be, I haven't followed him since he left the Clippers

Brand isn't even short. According to the DX measurement databse he's 6'8.25" w/o shoes and 6'9.5 with shoes and a 7'5.5" wingspan. Most guys with those measurements would have been listed as 6'10" but he went his whole career as 6'8". Go figure.

 

[hammystyle]

I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.

I don't think they HAVE to trade Iggy either. I just think an Iggy for Big Al trade would make sense for both sides. Though I think Minny wants to free up the money too.