Nets taking Wes Johnson
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Landrys rebounding did go up the more minutes he played, as well as his points. Cousins is a great rebounder. JT did way better coming off the bench than he did starting. It seems he calms down and doesnt commit as many stupid fouls when he comes off the bench. Every player has weaknesses. When it comes down to landry and jt at the 4, Landry any day of the year.
I really feel that what JT brings to this team gets taken for granted. The thing about Thompson that is HUGE for us is that for the most part he plays center equally as well as he plays power forward. This gives the Kings a big advantage when it comes to their bigman rotation. JT really allows Westphal to customize his big man lineup.
JT falls apart. You just said it. That is why petrie went out and got landry. He hasnt proven to me( I dont mind eating crow if he turns into a beast and becomes the 16 and 10 guy) yet that he can start. Ticky tac fouls and inconsistent scoring. Landry is way more consistent right now than thompson is. Its not like landry is old or getting old. He is still a young guy. JT is the perfect big off the bench. Energy is key with him. He hustles.
I think we got Landry because he was the BPA in a Martin trade. I don't see Landry as starting PF because of his poor rebounding. Next to Sam D. or Cousins it might look a little different, but I'd still rather see JT next to another good rebounder.
I love Landry's personality and game though, so I'm fine either way.
I don't think you can underestimate the importance of rebounding.
(trying to forget all the times JT came down with the ball and failed to finish)
I love Landry's personality and game though, so I'm fine either way.
I don't think you can underestimate the importance of rebounding.
(trying to forget all the times JT came down with the ball and failed to finish)
The Nets traded CDR to the Bucks today. Essentially gave him away for a future 2nd rd pick. The fact that the Nets isn't impressed with him is not news, but this trade leaves them with a big hole at the wing position, since the only option left - Courtney Lee, is even more underwhelming than CDR.
So either the Nets fill the void via the draft or via FA. If via FA, why the rush to trade now? Curious. Are they really targeting Johnson? Really?
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So either the Nets fill the void via the draft or via FA. If via FA, why the rush to trade now? Curious. Are they really targeting Johnson? Really?
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Terrence Williams can only play one position at a time. I'm sure the Nets wouldn't mind having two Terrence Williams though, for they're very high on him.
I've seen the Nets played live. Courtney Lee sucks. That's all I have to say. Seeing them live, seeing Lee, CDR, Yi, Humphries, and Boone pretend to be basketball players on the court made me realize why the Nets were so god awful. They were so bad they brought Harris and Lopez down to their level. Boone was the absolute worse, just garbage. Lee only a hair better. Then CDR, Yi, and Humphries were at a level between suckiness and garbage. I never thought watching a live game could be so torturous, until I saw that gang.
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I've seen the Nets played live. Courtney Lee sucks. That's all I have to say. Seeing them live, seeing Lee, CDR, Yi, Humphries, and Boone pretend to be basketball players on the court made me realize why the Nets were so god awful. They were so bad they brought Harris and Lopez down to their level. Boone was the absolute worse, just garbage. Lee only a hair better. Then CDR, Yi, and Humphries were at a level between suckiness and garbage. I never thought watching a live game could be so torturous, until I saw that gang.
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Yeah them clearing out CDR should be looked at as a marker that maybe this Johnson rumor isn't just hype and that they are seriously considering over spending on Carlos Boozer as well. BUt more power to them luckily for Mr. Boozer they have Brook Lopez who will provide a good mask for all his many deficiencies.
Tomorrow night cannot come soon enough...
Tomorrow night cannot come soon enough...
WJ and Boozer have the same agent. Combine that with the trade of CDR, and all the rumors, I find it very believable that the Nets take WJ. Harris, WJ, and Lopez is a solid young trio, especially in the east. The fact WJ and Boozer share the same agent, just adds another element to this and makes it that much more plausible.
Perhaps by pure talent alone Lee is better than CDR (although that's debatable), but CDR was a better player for the Nets. One thing I'd give credit is that CDR and Lopez were the only ones who competed. Lee looked like he preferred to stay home. CDR at least tried to move the ball around and play within the offense, Lee just jacked up shots, many of them bad ones. CDR at least tried to defend, Lee was just going through the motion. These are things you don't see just looking at the stats. I don't know their stats, but it wouldn't surprise me to see that Lee scored more than CDR. I wouldn't want either guys on the Kings but if I have to choose one, I'd rather have CDR.
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Trade up to 3?
Potentially we could rent our cap space to the Nets for the privlege of moving up from 5 to 3. I think we'd do this if we liked Favors a lot more than Cousins.
The Nets are an interesting case. Part of the reason they have moved Favors over Johnson is that he is a more attractive trade piece. They could sign LeBron then send Favors as S&T goodies for Bosh as well.
Potentially we could rent our cap space to the Nets for the privlege of moving up from 5 to 3. I think we'd do this if we liked Favors a lot more than Cousins.
The Nets are an interesting case. Part of the reason they have moved Favors over Johnson is that he is a more attractive trade piece. They could sign LeBron then send Favors as S&T goodies for Bosh as well.
All rumors and speculation aside, I honestly don't see why we aren't hearing more about the possiblity that Philly might deviate from the expected. I know that Turner is the concensus #2 pick, but of all the teams in the top 5, Philly seems to have the most obvious need, and that is for frontline help. Even if they are counting on Hawes to be their starting center, they are still awfully thin up front.
I know there have been no rumors that have Philly picking one of the two big men, and no mock drafts have them picking anyone but Turner; but it sure would make things interesting if they drafted for need at #2.
I know there have been no rumors that have Philly picking one of the two big men, and no mock drafts have them picking anyone but Turner; but it sure would make things interesting if they drafted for need at #2.
If Chad Ford is to be believed, Doug Collins wants to draft a man, not a boy. Collins was said to be disappointed that Favors and Cousins still have ways to go maturity wise after meeting with them.
But no, I wouldn't be surprised if Philly takes a big man. I'd do the same if I'm the GM. But they seem to be in a win-now mode if the reports are to be believed.
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I don't know if its win-now as much as Collins doing a little self realization that he is ill-suited and has no inclination to coach up a 18-19 year old lottery pick. He did an extremely poor job with Kwame Brown, and I'm sure did not enjoy the experience.
And of course, Evan Turner is a stud. If you fing yourself working ard to talk yourself out of a sure thing and into someone else...just take the sure thing.
And of course, Evan Turner is a stud. If you fing yourself working ard to talk yourself out of a sure thing and into someone else...just take the sure thing.
Hawes/Brand/Speights = most of your minutes. Also they still kinda like Jason Smith as their 4th big. So that's already three young bigs and the Brand anchor around their necks. They could certianly use a stud there, but they are a deeper up front than they are at SG where they were often running two PG sets last year.
I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. 
They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.
They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.
I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.
They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.
I don't think they have to trade Iggy -- unless they want to get younger and shed his contract. They have nobody to backup at SG right now (unless you count 6 foot nothing Lou Williams) and Turner would probably be the best play maker on the team right away so he'd be their backup PG as well. Iggy is fine at SG or SF and he'll play minutes at both. They could go big with Turner, Iggy, Young and two of their bigs but probably their best starting 5 is Holiday, Turner, Igoudala, Brand, and umm, Hawes. They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.
They really shouldn't give up on Brand as a starter just yet because he's untradeable, but even so I think Speights will be solid at PF. They need a center now more than anything else.