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exactly. as much as I loved to hate them as a young man, I’m happy it’s them since not us.
iowamcnabb
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Lots of interesting story lines to come in the next month.
Assuming Cade goes #1, will Houston take the consensus #2 even though they have Wood and the league is leaning towards Wings?
If Houston passes on Mobley will Cleveland too? They are about to sign Allen to a big contract. Do they sign and trade Allen?
A couple of Orlando’s options at 5 and 8 will be power forwards. Will they take best player available if it’s a 4 even though they want to build around Isaac?
Will Golden State trade their pick for a veteran? How about Wiseman, Wiggins and the #7 to Minnesota for KAT
Will Tinker McNair move the pick in a swing for the fences trade?
Assuming Cade goes #1, will Houston take the consensus #2 even though they have Wood and the league is leaning towards Wings?
If Houston passes on Mobley will Cleveland too? They are about to sign Allen to a big contract. Do they sign and trade Allen?
A couple of Orlando’s options at 5 and 8 will be power forwards. Will they take best player available if it’s a 4 even though they want to build around Isaac?
Will Golden State trade their pick for a veteran? How about Wiseman, Wiggins and the #7 to Minnesota for KAT
Will Tinker McNair move the pick in a swing for the fences trade?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Lots of interesting story lines to come in the next month.
Assuming Cade goes #1, will Houston take the consensus #2 even though they have Wood and the league is leaning towards Wings?
If Houston passes on Mobley will Cleveland too? They are about to sign Allen to a big contract. Do they sign and trade Allen?
A couple of Orlando’s options at 5 and 8 will be power forwards. Will they take best player available if it’s a 4 even though they want to build around Isaac?
Will Golden State trade their pick for a veteran? How about Wiseman, Wiggins and the #7 to Minnesota for KAT
Will Tinker McNair move the pick in a swing for the fences trade?
if Draymond enjoyed getting on Wiseman’s ass for not playing tough and blowing assignments on D, he’s gonna looooooooove playing with KAT
KingsFanSince85
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I didn’t say they’d do it. Just saying what I’d give up. That, after all, was the question that was posed.
KingsFanSince85
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Fill me in on the joke. I suspect it’s some form of millennial humor.
If you wouldn’t give that up, jokes on you.
If you think it’s not enough, the question wasn’t “what do you think the ROX would agree to” it was “ what would you be willing to give up”.
So, again, enlighten me on the joke.
KingsFanSince85
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The KINGS have drafted top 5 before and found players that had question marks. Many of them.
Meanwhile, they drafted Hali #12 who has less of them than most.
You’re generalization has question marks to it too.
Lastly, Harrison Barnes is nowhere close to Ben Simmons offensively (which I suspect you really mean “shot wise”) That’s a ridiculous statement that can easily be proven incorrect.
KingsFanSince85
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I’m not as committed as you, as I don’t want to part with either. But I still like the open-minded approach.
sactowndog
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interesting point was he felt the talent falls off a cliff at 9 but his 9 isn’t other people’s 9.
sactowndog
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yeah I suspect if you sit players it wouldn’t surprise me if Silver pulled out their lottery balls. A bit different than Detroit that didn’t sit people and were legitimately bad.
sactowndog
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Johnson measured very well. It will be interesting if he moves up.
kb02
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This is one of those drafts where there isn’t a generational player, but lots of sometimes all stars. So I think the entire lottery is a crap shoot this year. Where Jalen Johnson has a 35% chance of being better than Cade rather than the 1% chance in previous years against Lebron, AD…
sactowndog
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It will be interesting what Cleveland does with Sexton if they take Green. Cleveland is hoping Detroit perhaps takes Green.
Drafting a Haliburton is extremely rare, so much so that it was pointed out in every broadcast how mature his game was for a rookie. Those kind of players are the exceptions. One could say that is the job of the GM, to find those exceptions, but you will be disappointed most years if that's how you base success in the draft. A majority of the time you will be drafting someone that is rough around the edges but you can see the diamond through the rough.
And we are talking about draft picks. I assumed people would realize I meant Scottie Barnes since he has been mentioned multiple times, and is high on most people's draft picks at #9. So I'm sorry for the confusion.
Any chance he falls to #9?
Volblorx8634
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I don't hate the idea. Not sure if this was mentioned, but Woj on the broadcast said Hou does want an all star level talent in exchange for the #2 to accelerate their rebuild. I don't think Haliburton fits that for Houston yet, unless they are very high on him. Obviously Fox would fit the bill.
If I'm Monte, moving Fox HAS to be part of a bigger deal where I can also unload and get value for one of the three players I've been shopping (Barnes, Buddy, Bagley). I don't know what return that nets us or if a third team needs to get involved, but I would likely move Fox to get the 2 and legit value for one of those 3 guys.
Reverend
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LOL no need to get offended because I think your trade is funny lol buddy Bagley is the start of every delusional kings trade we come up with cause we want them off our team but you never stop to ask yourself: does the team im trying to trade with have any interest or find any value in these players? Again sorry if you got a little ups triggered by me laughing but it’s moreso about how all of us kings fans think the recipe to every trade proposal is Buddy + Bagley
Section 101
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Several post lotto mocks have him going to the warriors. At 14!
EIM86
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If he interviews well I’d be down to take the risk
Reverend
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For what it’s worth as well, back to your original question of what would the Rockets want and for a #1 pick the price should be steep, meaning two of your best players or atleast one. Offering Hou nothing but bench fodder isn’t going to get much traction if you’re not starting with atleast Hali + our pick you’re not seriously considering it from their standpoint as well as ours
gunks
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Fair enough! Just being snarky because we didn’t miraculously jump to 1!
For the record, I’d give that up just to move into the top 4! Let alone #2. Hopefully there’s some Baglievers out there on draft day.
Tetsujin
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The issue is at 9, there’s probably no clear BPA unless Kuminga or Banes slip all the way there for some reason.
Seems like the top 6 are set in the mocks and then they throw darts.
Was Hali in most of the top 5s before draft day? Let's cross our fingers that bad GMs do what bad GMs do.
Was Hali in most of the top 5s before draft day? Let's cross our fingers that bad GMs do what bad GMs do.
twslam07
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Would love to see both Mitchell and K. Johnson go before we pick, but I doubt that's actually how it will go down.
If the Kings come out of this draft with either Moody or Barnes, I'll be very excited. If we come out with Wagner or Z. Williams, I'll be happy. If we come out with anyone else, I'll likely be disappointed. I admittedly don't see the hype for J. Johnson. He just seems like he is worse than Barnes in almost every facet of the game besides maybe iso scoring?
Then maybe you'd like this mock?
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/6...021-instant-first-round-picks-detroit-pistons
I don't really know anything about J. Johnson except I made clear my thoughts on Dukies.
LPKingsFan
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Johnson can be worse than Barnes, but assuming Barnes is off the board, still the best pick for the Kings at 9, no? The question instead is whether he's worse than the other players available.
LPKingsFan
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It's funny to notice the subtle impact the mocks already are having on me, because my first instinct would be to agree on being happy with Wagner or Williams, but also to wonder if taking them at 9 would be a "reach." Of course, the truth is they may be the right value at 9, especially if the notion that there's not a ton of difference between guys currently mocked around roughly 7-16 or so is true.
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