burekijogurt
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Lets do it. make FIBA and NBA baskeball closer. will definitely change the complexion of the game and make it harder to score...
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Lets do it. make FIBA and NBA baskeball closer. will definitely change the complexion of the game and make it harder to score...
And when a man says that he voluntarily ended his NBA career because his "mind went to a dark place", the reason his mind may have gone there could certainly be because of comments like the above. People who don't make $128M over their careers often like to think that huge sums of money are both an excuse for emotional abuse and an antidote to depression and/or mental illness, but I don't think that the data bear that out.
Could be. And, in the aggregate and in general, I have empathy and sympathy for people dealing with mental health issues, even when they're rich. But also, I will overlook a lot if I think something is funny, and Ravishing Brick Rude is funny to me.
I'm the only person I know who ranks the 2005 NBA Finals as one of their favorite Finals series, and I have no idea why anyone but the most hardcore of hardcore NBA fans thinks that what average/casual fans want is less scoring/more defense?
I loved that Pistons team - but look at those score lines - 69 points in 48 minutes. That's a halftime score today.
As long as I've been alive, every sports league I've followed in America has been on a never ending thirst quest to get more scoring. A lot of it is so pig headed like getting rid of offsides rules in hockey and soccer, and making the goals bigger (again hockey and soccer). Football destroyed defense with all the QB and receiver protections and PI calls, but by the same token it has lead to less reliance on running backs which is a brutally crippling way to play the game so we've seen more player longevity from these changes. Baseball has always battled their need to get more homeruns without players cheating to get them.
Basketball is the one sport where I think the scoring thirst is totally in the wrong direction. Because nobody wants to see teams shooting free throws. We can argue til the cows come home about dunks vs. three pointers, but I think the casual fan is excited by both. But nobody wants to see players like Harden ref baiting and scoring 14+ points a night from the line.
It'd be like if NFL decided to generate more field goal attempts somehow. The scores would possibly go up but for the wrong reasons.
Good defense is part of the game and should be rewarded. Basketball already has more score tallies than any other sport to the point "remember that missed free throw" is a painful cliche, along with the "I can just catch the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter" mindset.
But because its still the easiest way for players to get paid it won't be going away.
Basketball is the one sport where I think the scoring thirst is totally in the wrong direction. Because nobody wants to see teams shooting free throws. We can argue til the cows come home about dunks vs. three pointers, but I think the casual fan is excited by both. But nobody wants to see players like Harden ref baiting and scoring 14+ points a night from the line.
It'd be like if NFL decided to generate more field goal attempts somehow. The scores would possibly go up but for the wrong reasons.
Good defense is part of the game and should be rewarded. Basketball already has more score tallies than any other sport to the point "remember that missed free throw" is a painful cliche, along with the "I can just catch the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter" mindset.
But because its still the easiest way for players to get paid it won't be going away.
They need to get rid of the hand checking rules. It’s become a guard’s perimeter game and the only good counter-balance would be allowing the defender to put their hands on an offensive player. Too many times the refs will call soft touch fouls. The really smart players have found ways to use it to their advantage and start drawing shooting fouls from them.
The NBA wants more scoring and higher scoring, but fouls take the rhythm out of the game.
But you’re right about the changes in the game allowing players to be paid. There’s a reason why no current NBA players have come out to complain… they’re able to score a lot easier, thus getting larger contracts because they can point to all the points they score.
I don’t think I’m a fan of the way the league is trending. It makes defense nearly impossible to play. Offenses have all the advantages.
Yeah, I'm not seeing the issue. But I also acknowledge that I'm not a typical fan.
LoungeLizard
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Love to see the Warriors choke away an 18 point lead with a little over 6 minutes left in the game. The fact that Steph made the turnover that led to the Joker buzzer beater was icing on the cake.
kingsboi
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now that's hysterical, I was laughing out loud. Klay just casually walks off the court is a bonus
coolhandluke
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That's insane. Love the reactions of Jokic and Curry.
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Insomniacal Fan
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I think the NBA has mostly got this under control? Harden's FTA averages have certainly plummeted from their height in 2019. I think the current leaders in FTA (Giannis, Embiid) are not playing a boring brand of basketball by most people's definition
The disinterest in anything but the last 5 minutes is not a criticism of this current higher scoring era, (this sentiment was very present in the slow 90s.) The criticism is more of an indictment of the level of intensity of regular season NBA games, which are devalued by quantity. With the success of the IST, it's obvious that the NBA needs to make basketball more scarce and rarified if it wants to increase its intensity.
This is not how player contracts work. Through collective bargaining, players collectively have received ~50% of NBA revenue for a long time.
Players are getting bigger contracts, because NBA revenue is increasing, because the NBA is a growing business. The manner in which NBA is growing is not 100% transparent, but it could involve either finding more fans or more valuable fans. Why should the NBA change in order to please people who liked the game more in the 90s?
I don't know why any NBA businessman would have any nostalgia for earlier eras.
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Warriors imploding?
That seems to be what happens when you try to serve two masters. Warriors were trying to refurbish the plane while it was still in the air, and that pretty much never works.
captain bill
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39-44 including that absurd 3 against the Warriors
I'm just quoting this.
kingsboi
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that's the starting package for Siakam, along with some more youth and draft picks
SacTownKid
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With that amount of iso able guys the Clipps can basically own the clock which is probably the most impactful part of defense. Especially these days in an all offense league.
kingsboi
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one must also remember that when the Playoffs come around, the real Harden comes out so it will be interesting to see what happens but no team wants to match up with them come late April/May
SacTownKid
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True, but at least now he can very comfortably just run PG and play 3rd option. Here's to hoping he shoots the Clippers out of the playoffs early! haha.
kingsboi
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that would be ideal. he seems like he cares about playing again, he's engaged, he's in better shape and his efficiency is much improved.
Tizzy Flip
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Pacers with an ungodly 50 assists today
kingsboi
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this era of basketball should be labeled the "video game era"
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