Miller will post Weberesque numbers.

[burekijogurt]

I think Miller is capable of performing close to the level Webber did if he gets the minutes and the ball. He showed that last year when Webber was out. His game is very similar to Webber's. Good passer, shoots well from the elbow, can play inside. Not as good but close enough. But now we put Tag in the middle and we get some defense and some rebounds. The scoring will be there.

Also, I predict that Peja's percentage will go up. He's play will not necessarily improve (same rebounds, same defence - which is not bad), but I think he will hit more of his shots. I always had a feeling that the timing of passes to him was a bit off this season and he never got to shoot it in rythm. Now that he will be the focus of the offense, I think this will improve and his percentage too.

So all in all, although we did not get anything in return for Webb, Miller will replace him, we'll get better defensively and on the glass, and scoring will always be there.

 

[Gary]

Totally 100% agree with you. Miller has already proved he is capable of putting those numbers up in Webbers absense. But over 30 games is yet to be known.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Exactly, Miller is our new Webber, and he was overshadowed by Webber when C-Webb was here because C-Webb got the ball twice as much as Miller, I actually like Miller with the ball Over Webber, because Miller dosen't demand 25 shots a game. This trade made our team better, trust me.

 

[AleksandarN]

I agree that Brad can fill in for Webber's duty in the offense. The question do we have the size to defend the PFs in the west?

 

[Bricklayer]

This trade made our team better, trust me.

Sure thing sport.


Miller's numebrs will go up to be sure. Truly Webberesque? Unlikely. Brad's got a simple game (1 jumper, 1 drive, no effecitve post game), and the more other teams can focus on it the harder it gets for him. He could surprise a couple of teams last month, but once teams have adjusted... Furthermore he's really only got one passer to set him up now. His production will likely go as his pick and rolls with Mike go.

And more importantly, even if Brad adds +4pts +1reb +1ast or whatever, umm...that still leaves 17pts 9rebs 4.5ast or so to be made up by Kenny Thomas. A tall order.

The Kings have always, until today really, had more talent on the team than we could really show. Everybody's numbers were down a bit from where they could have been because of sacrificng for the team. We'll be alright. We'll hardly collapse. But we've lost spark and versatilty, and we are playing closer to that edge than we were before. Less ability to play through off nights by one player, less ability to cover for inujuries. Just less talent overall.

 

[Heuge]

A tall order.

Funny word choice for our new 6'7 power forward.

 

[LMM]

6'7 power forward --beautiful

:|

 

[PFFFT!!]

Sure thing sport.


Miller's numebrs will go up to be sure. Truly Webberesque? Unlikely. Brad's got a simple game (1 jumper, 1 drive, no effecitve post game), and the more other teams can focus on it the harder it gets for him. He could surprise a couple of teams last month, but once teams have adjusted... Furthermore he's really only got one passer to set him up now. His production will likely go as his pick and rolls with Mike go.

And more importantly, even if Brad adds +4pts +1reb +1ast or whatever, umm...that still leaves 17pts 9rebs 4.5ast or so to be made up by Kenny Thomas. A tall order.

The Kings have always, until today really, had more talent on the team than we could really show. Everybody's numbers were down a bit from where they could have been because of sacrificng for the team. We'll be alright. We'll hardly collapse. But we've lost spark and versatilty, and we are playing closer to that edge than we were before. Less ability to play through off nights by one player, less ability to cover for inujuries. Just less talent overall.

Brick, can Thomas play any SF? He can come in for Peja while he's in healing process.

 

[PFFFT!!]

6'7 power forward --beautiful

:|

Its not how tall you are that matters, its how high you jump, wingspan, and how big your hands are. Fortson is listed at 6'8. Get a ruler and see what the difference is between 6'7 and 6'10 (3 inches), now picture Webber and his bad leg with all that muscle jumping up, now picture a guy whos more athletic, has two legs, and is lighter jumping. Who jumps higher?

 

[13ig13aller]

HUH?

I think Miller is capable of performing close to the level Webber did if he gets the minutes and the ball. He showed that last year when Webber was out. His game is very similar to Webber's. Good passer, shoots well from the elbow, can play inside. Not as good but close enough. But now we put Tag in the middle and we get some defense and some rebounds. The scoring will be there.

Also, I predict that Peja's percentage will go up. He's play will not necessarily improve (same rebounds, same defence - which is not bad), but I think he will hit more of his shots. I always had a feeling that the timing of passes to him was a bit off this season and he never got to shoot it in rythm. Now that he will be the focus of the offense, I think this will improve and his percentage too.

So all in all, although we did not get anything in return for Webb, Miller will replace him, we'll get better defensively and on the glass, and scoring will always be there.

 

[Gary]

Our bench has improved so I doubt if we lost the "spark". We just filled the bench with players we did not have, so I think if someone is having an off night we can go to the bench.. Williamson, and Thomas are more than capable at providing that spark, and versatility.

 

[love_them_kings]

Brick, can Thomas play any SF? He can come in for Peja while he's in healing process.

I have a feeling that Peja has just been miraculously "healed". His head should be much clearer now.

 

[Bricklayer]

Brick, can Thomas play any SF? He can come in for Peja while he's in healing process.

He could, but we got Corliss already so not really sure if we'd swing him there.


BTW, Kenny Thomas plays hard, and he deserves credit as one of those "gets the most out of what he has" sorts of players. But he's also a classic undersized PF that can start on a bad team but does not belong on a really good one. He couldn't even secure 30min a game for Philadelphia this year, and Philadelphia is at best a middling team.

 

[burekijogurt]

Its not just Thomas that will have to make up those numbers but the rest of the team. Aside from Miller, another player whose stats will go up significantly is Songalia. The rest will improve slightly.

We need to watch how we do on the defensive end though. I think our points allowed will go down.

Maybe another trade is in the works also. We send these three guys we got and Bobby J for Boozer and Harpring. Does that work in any way?

 

[LMM]

undersized PF is bad for us. especially since dallas, san antonio and minnesota have big PFs. all within 7 ft.

if we're stuck with him, i do hope he plays hard, and hope it will somehow workout.

sigh

 

[Bricklayer]

Our bench has improved so I doubt if we lost the "spark". We just filled the bench with players we did not have, so I think if someone is having an off night we can go to the bench.. Williamson, and Thomas are more than capable at providing that spark, and versatility.

Thomas is the starter -- we gained one bench player unless Skinner plays, which he likely won't. And here's the thing -- we traded Webber for Thomas, and basically Barnes for Corliss, Skinner for Bradley.

Corliss, as we all know, is a vertically challenged non-rebounder. He's a SF. If Peja is going to be our star, what's that leve Corliss? 10 min a night? Or do we swing him some to PF to compete with minutes with 1) Songaila; 2) Thomas; 3) Skinner??

Ugh, just looking at that list of names -- somebody said last night it reminded them of the Knicks. Kind of does -- Undersized/Middling Forwards R' Us.

 

[13ig13aller]

I agree.

Brad Miller is a very good player and with C-Webb gone his numbers will definately go up. But to say he is a Webberesque is a tad foolish. Miller is not a game changer like WEbber is. He will not demand double-triple teams like C-Webb did.

Sure thing sport.


Miller's numebrs will go up to be sure. Truly Webberesque? Unlikely. Brad's got a simple game (1 jumper, 1 drive, no effecitve post game), and the more other teams can focus on it the harder it gets for him. He could surprise a couple of teams last month, but once teams have adjusted... Furthermore he's really only got one passer to set him up now. His production will likely go as his pick and rolls with Mike go.

And more importantly, even if Brad adds +4pts +1reb +1ast or whatever, umm...that still leaves 17pts 9rebs 4.5ast or so to be made up by Kenny Thomas. A tall order.

The Kings have always, until today really, had more talent on the team than we could really show. Everybody's numbers were down a bit from where they could have been because of sacrificng for the team. We'll be alright. We'll hardly collapse. But we've lost spark and versatilty, and we are playing closer to that edge than we were before. Less ability to play through off nights by one player, less ability to cover for inujuries. Just less talent overall.

 

[PFFFT!!]

Thanks Brick.

 

[Gary]

Thought we are starting Songalia?

 

[Bricklayer]

Thought we are starting Songalia?

I would think only short term. Thomas is a more established player and better rebounder. Of course there are only 30 or so games to go, and unless Petrie really has lost it none of these guys may be here next year, so mayeb darius can start the rest of the year. Just makes our rebounding problem even more acute though -- Webb was in the Top 1/4 of all PFs in rebs/48, Darius is in the BOTTOM 1/4 of all PFs in rebs/48. Ouch if that's the way we decide to go.

 

[keflanag]

Miller will post Webberesque number? TRUE.

But who will post Milleresque numbers?

 

[Purple Reign]

I think Miller is capable of performing close to the level Webber did if he gets the minutes and the ball. He showed that last year when Webber was out. His game is very similar to Webber's. Good passer, shoots well from the elbow, can play inside. Not as good but close enough. But now we put Tag in the middle and we get some defense and some rebounds. The scoring will be there.

Also, I predict that Peja's percentage will go up. He's play will not necessarily improve (same rebounds, same defence - which is not bad), but I think he will hit more of his shots. I always had a feeling that the timing of passes to him was a bit off this season and he never got to shoot it in rythm. Now that he will be the focus of the offense, I think this will improve and his percentage too.

So all in all, although we did not get anything in return for Webb, Miller will replace him, we'll get better defensively and on the glass, and scoring will always be there.

No he won't!!! Ya'll are tripping. This is the first time I have posted about this deal. But you just don't replace keen court awareness, soft hands, and basketball IQ. Yeah, you may be able to put up points, but you can not replace intangibles. We are fooling ourselves if we think that Brad Miller is just going to slide in and replace everything that Webb brought.