He's always been unathletic, but did Webber really help him jump higher to out-board equally unathletic centers when he already has position? I would think the loss of Webber would hurt him more on the offensive end, but he's been very efficient on offense. On defense, it's not like post-injury Webber was a stopper.
My problem with Brad is that he isn't a very smart player. You look at last night in the 4th quarter and two plays stand out to me. #1 He gets a rebound and sees Peja on a breakout with a step on his defender. Tough pass to try and risky at that point in the game. He fires a line-drive a foot over Peja's reach, the ball doesn't even land inbounds and it gets the Bobcats and their fans even more pumped up. This is a veteran who's supposed to be a team leader? And he's making rookie mistakes like that. Then, the Bobcats get a steal and Gerald hits Brezec in stride for a layup going right at Brad. At this point you either get the hell out of the way and let him have the 2 or you body him and see if that stops their momentum and saves a point or two. Instead, Brad just kind of backpedals and gets part of Brezec's hip. An easy 3 point play, the energy in the building goes up even higher.
He doesn't do what a center is supposed to do, he's one of the worst defenders at his position and he has these mental issues. He's replaceable. The Pacers and even the Bulls are doing fine right now and they've both traded him.
He doesn't do what a center is supposed to do, he's one of the worst defenders at his position and he has these mental issues. He's replaceable. The Pacers and even the Bulls are doing fine right now and they've both traded him.
The answer is that he's just a role player. Surround him with tons of quality to hide his weaknesses and he'll look awesome. Ask him to take on more responsibility and you get to see all his flaws, game after game. We used to be bigger, stronger, younger, better defensively on the perimeter and we had more shooters. That's how a guy goes from 15 and 10 a night to 13 and 7.
Brad's passing is overrated. He looks great against teams that don't pressure him but turns it over against those that do which is ever increasing. He can't jump, rebound or play defense on PF's let alone 5's. He was the next best thing to Vlade but hasn't equaled Vlade do to a multitude of reasons, many of which are not his fault. But his chief problem is an inability to successfully run the high pick and roll with Bibby...it becomes a defendable pick and pop because there's little danger of Brad going to the hoop for a return pass and successful finish.
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To all the people here with Brad Miller in their screen name:
I want to make it clear to you that I'm not a Miller hater. Miller has shown good stuff here as a King, I just feel that he is no longer an asset with the players we have now acquired. This offense is changing and a center with his qualities (good and bad) are not going to help this team.
I want to make it clear to you that I'm not a Miller hater. Miller has shown good stuff here as a King, I just feel that he is no longer an asset with the players we have now acquired. This offense is changing and a center with his qualities (good and bad) are not going to help this team.
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I'm still for Joel Przybilla.
He's not a stat giant, but he does clog the middle. He's a bit imposing and he's 7'1".
He doesn't require the ball on offense, which allows our big guns (Reef, Bibby, Peja) to get an adequate number of shots.
This is the type of guy I believe we need. Miller is a STELLAR player in the right role, but in my opinion this team either needs to trade Reef or trade Miller.
Reef is playing far superior defense than Miller and is really looking decent defensively .... but that's hardly "AWESOME" defense. Reef might lock down his man, but he isn't going to stop penetration or the opposing center.
Which means that even if Reef is playing decent defense - it isn't good enough to support the weakness of Miller.
If this team is going to keep Reef (and Bibby for that matter), I think a defensive stopper at center is key. Przybilla provides that and then you can bring Skinner off the bench.
Just my opinion.
He's not a stat giant, but he does clog the middle. He's a bit imposing and he's 7'1".
He doesn't require the ball on offense, which allows our big guns (Reef, Bibby, Peja) to get an adequate number of shots.
This is the type of guy I believe we need. Miller is a STELLAR player in the right role, but in my opinion this team either needs to trade Reef or trade Miller.
Reef is playing far superior defense than Miller and is really looking decent defensively .... but that's hardly "AWESOME" defense. Reef might lock down his man, but he isn't going to stop penetration or the opposing center.
Which means that even if Reef is playing decent defense - it isn't good enough to support the weakness of Miller.
If this team is going to keep Reef (and Bibby for that matter), I think a defensive stopper at center is key. Przybilla provides that and then you can bring Skinner off the bench.
Just my opinion.
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The whole team needs to go...........
Miller just gets too frustrated when we need him most... Why? I have no idea....
He's too sloppy... You can see it easily against the rockets last time... At the end of the game when we fell apart he was losing the ball every time down the floor... When a team really wants to lock down on him he's not gonna do much... That's what's happening with our entire team... When a team really wants to lock down on us, were so damn unathletic that we get dominated... I see it everytime at the end of games... Teams have speed and athletism and they just do whatever they want to us on both ends of the floor... IMO, peja and brad need to go... Peja for not being tough or physical or playing without any emotion heart or intensity or pride... Brad because he's just too unathletic and I feel bad for him... I love his passion and his willingness to at least try and do some dirty work and I love his shot... But being unable to jump, run, or do anything that the average nba player can do really hurts him... Not to mention his mental breakdowns when we need him most... So he DOES need to go... And this pathetic offense of ours(which is no longer potent as it was before) needs to go as well... Fire adelman and only get rid of petrie cause we really can't use his princeton offense anymore.... Bring in terry porter along with some tough players and were set... How that will get accomplished? I have no idea....
Miller just gets too frustrated when we need him most... Why? I have no idea....
He's too sloppy... You can see it easily against the rockets last time... At the end of the game when we fell apart he was losing the ball every time down the floor... When a team really wants to lock down on him he's not gonna do much... That's what's happening with our entire team... When a team really wants to lock down on us, were so damn unathletic that we get dominated... I see it everytime at the end of games... Teams have speed and athletism and they just do whatever they want to us on both ends of the floor... IMO, peja and brad need to go... Peja for not being tough or physical or playing without any emotion heart or intensity or pride... Brad because he's just too unathletic and I feel bad for him... I love his passion and his willingness to at least try and do some dirty work and I love his shot... But being unable to jump, run, or do anything that the average nba player can do really hurts him... Not to mention his mental breakdowns when we need him most... So he DOES need to go... And this pathetic offense of ours(which is no longer potent as it was before) needs to go as well... Fire adelman and only get rid of petrie cause we really can't use his princeton offense anymore.... Bring in terry porter along with some tough players and were set... How that will get accomplished? I have no idea....
I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic regarding Jerome James (at least I hope you are). Brad does alot of good things. He's areally good shooter who doesn't shoot enough as far as I am concerned, and he is a better than average rebounder. What really hurts is that he is a terrible defender. I say this because I am little surprised because when he came here I heard that he was a pretty good defender who was a tough guy. He is neither. Perhaps becasue he plays the high post in this offense he doesn't have as many opportunities to showcase what he can do in the paint but I am just plain unimpressed with what he does down low in the post. If it weren't for his impressive passing skills Brad would be just another slow-footed white guy who can shoot. Maybe there is a reason he has been on 4 (?) teams in a relatively youthful carreer. Maybe the malaise on defense is contagious from the other core guys. I sure hope Bonzi and Sharreef don't catch this horrible and debilitating disease.
BMiller52 said:
Maybe what made brad so bad on D was adelman's coaching???
Remember how Doug Christie used to be a good defender until he got to Sacramento, and Adelman's coaching made him a bad defender?
Yeah... I don't either.
Adelman may not be a good defensive coach, but his coaching isn't what's causing the team to play poor defense; the reason that they're playing poor defense is because, well... they're poor defenders.
You make it sound like Miller was some kind of terrific defender before he got to Sacramento; that's revisionist history at its best. Miller has, at least statistically speaking, played the best defense of his entire career in a Kings uniform.
1) Brad WAS a better than average rebounder. That has disappeared as well.
2) Reef has been a crap defender over his career, and lets just say it -- there is a REASON he never carried teams anywhere. All he did was score, and that's not enough. Mostly what he does here too, but he has had games of solid Peja-like positional defense (Pejalike because he is still useless shutting down the lane but at least impedes his own man).
2) Reef has been a crap defender over his career, and lets just say it -- there is a REASON he never carried teams anywhere. All he did was score, and that's not enough. Mostly what he does here too, but he has had games of solid Peja-like positional defense (Pejalike because he is still useless shutting down the lane but at least impedes his own man).
