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Bricklayer said:1) JJ was the PRIMARY piece New Orleans tried to pick up. A veteran to help fill Mashburn's shoes.
BS. NO was trying to move a player off their roster (Wesley).
Bricklayer said:2) if it even matters, he is only moving a couple of hundred miles.
Please tell me how happy you'd be to move "a couple of hundred miles" to keep your paycheck and how little it would disrupt your personal life.
Bricklayer said:3) yes, the difference is that Chris Webber reported. That is why he is BETTER than JJ.
No, it does not make Chris Webber better at all. He whined and posed the whole way. And if you missed it the first time, he replayed it in living color for us all during his last contract negotiations. It does make him want the paycheck more. Kinda reminds me of an old joke that has a punchline something like "we've already established the fact that your mother and sister are whores, now we're negotiating the price."
Bricklayer said:4) Chris Webber was traded from a team he wanted to play for, on the coast he wanted to play on, and away from one of his his best friends in the league (Howard).
See above.
Bricklayer said:5) you are paid millions of dollars to bounce a stupid ball. That comes with reponsibilities. Suck it up and play.
Wrong. At this moment in time JJ is being paid NOTHING to play basketball because he's not playing BB. There are any number of players who ARE being paid to play NBA ball who either aren't playing or aren't playing up to their capabilities, would you like to discuss them because they ARE getting paid unlike JJ.
Bricklayer said:6) JJ is eating up New Orleans cap room. He is embarrassing them as a franchise. He is saying they are not good enough for him and potentially throwing further doubt on their status as a destination franchsie for future FAs. . If such conduct were commonplace, NO bad team would have any hope of getting better. He is a PROFESSIONAL, in theory. Such conduct is not only unprofessional, it is just flat out wrong.
JJ is only eating up room because NO chose to complete a trade where they knew the player they were trading for would not report (again, they had the option to rescind the trade when he didn't report for his physical and they CHOSE to complete the trade anyway).
Bricklayer said:7) If you can't deal with trades, drafts and other rules for player movement, then you should go watch college ball. They are some of the absolute pillars around which pro sports leagues are built and the only hope for competitive balance. If Webber (or Richmond before him) had gone as far as JJ, the Kings would probably be playing in another city now. Luckily, as unhappy as he was he didn;t decide he was bigger than the game, the league, the CBA.
WTF? College ball is dirtier than the NBA by nine miles...and I love college ball. I can't believe that you brought up college ball and Webber in the same argument. Isn't that Webber's first known mis-step? I agree with you that college ball is more exciting and the talent is more equally spread out, but come on? Is college ball the pure and shining pinnacle the NBA should strive for? Your hypothesis on Webber's motivation is wrong (in my opinion) he is the epitome of a hired gun (but that's my bias showing).
Getting back to your original point..if you can't deal with trades etc...then get out of the NBA and I suspect that, inadvertently, you've made my point...I suspect that JJ is a firm believer in your philosophy and that he can't, personally, take the rigors of #7 any longer.
Bricklayer said:8) Marty Burns writes crap like this all the time because his team, his franchise, never faces these problems. Its like the Yankees pooh-poohing the salary disparity in baseball. Its selfish hypocrisy.
Whatever....
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