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Yeah but Vecenie’s always had him going at like the 13-20 times range and not Top Ten.Sam Vecenie has considered him a possible lottery pick for awhile.
Yeah but Vecenie’s always had him going at like the 13-20 times range and not Top Ten.Sam Vecenie has considered him a possible lottery pick for awhile.
How dare they leave out Delly as well.
Had him 11th in his last mock. Considers him the best defensive guard in the draft (able to guard 1-3).Yeah but Vecenie’s always had him going at like the 13-20 times range and not Top Ten.
Had him 11th in his last mock. Considers him the best defensive guard in the draft (able to guard 1-3).
It's hard to say what Banchero's floor is. RJ Barrett had very similar stats at Duke with higher assist numbers and has been an inefficient volume scorer in the NBA. Tobias Harris is a pretty high floor for a guy who isn't a surefire, as clear as it gets #1 pick.
Schmitz thinks Dyson Daniels is going in the top ten of the draft, which would truly be amazing and a Vlade picking Papagiannis in the first round-level shocker. lmao
Draftexpress certainly feels Banchero is under consideration for the #1. Guess it’s just me and them on the island—@telemauchus.
I hope he goes #1 and wins rookie of the year.... on any team other than the Kings. I'm sure he'll be successful in the NBA for awhile in terms of putting up numbers and getting paid but to me he's exactly the type of prospect who gets overhyped every year. He's big, athletic, physically advanced for his age, and has one-on-one moves that track well in highlight reels but other than looking the part he doesn't have any elite skills.
For now I've got Benny Mathurin ranked as my #1 prospect. He won't be the best rookie next year and might not be the best player in his class for 3 or 4 years but he has long-term potential to surpass all of them. Rookie of the Year is often a meaningless accolade anyway.
I don't read ESPN, so I couldn't tell you. I do follow a lot of guys who focus on the draft (& listen to their podcasts), and all of them have him going 3rd or 4th (prior to the tournament). Lest you think they just don't like him, almost all of them had him #1 at the start of the season.Draftexpress certainly feels Banchero is under consideration for the #1. Guess it’s just me and them on the island—@telemauchus.
Vecenie (I swear he’s not the only draft guy I listen to) had him first overall, dropped him, then put him back at two most recently, I believe.I don't read ESPN, so I couldn't tell you. I do follow a lot of guys who focus on the draft (& listen to their podcasts), and all of them have him going 3rd or 4th (prior to the tournament). Lest you think they just don't like him, almost all of them had him #1 at the start of the season.
Now is it possible that a team will fall in love with him at #1? Of course, but it is most likely that Smith & Holmgren are taken with the first 2 picks.
Most recently, both Vecenie and Matt Penne had him 3rd. Some other good ones to listen to are Draft Deeper & The DraftDAQ. There is also No Ceilings (which includes guys from the 2 I just mentioned along with others).Vecenie (I swear he’s not the only draft guy I listen to) had him first overall, dropped him, then put him back at two most recently, I believe.
Brown is more athletic, but Sochan is the better all around player.Kendall Brown is a guy I'd love to have a mid-1st round pick for; especially if he falls to like that 14-16 range. I think there's a ridiculous amount of defensive upside and if you can find a way to unlock anything on offense; he's got high-level starter ability. The athleticism and the early defensive chops are very intriguing.
Similar thoughts on Sochan too. I think both him and Brown can be real defensive difference makers, but you need to find something more consistent on offense with both.
If Brown can develop a consistent outside shot, he'd be a great fit with Sabonis and Fox as a low usage C&S target and cutter who can also defend well and be a lob threat in transition. He also adds some passing playmaking, but his ballhandling/creation skills may limit his overall upside. He'd only be a target if the Kings traded down or somehow acquired a second FRP, likely in the 15-22 range.
Right now, the 10-40 range in this draft is clear as mud. There's at least a remote chance that a guy like Brown who is running a bit more on potential than performance could slip down into the early second. Or, let's say, it's basically certain that at least a few guys like Brown are going to slip into the early second, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise to me if he were to be available for the Kings. Maybe a small surprise, but there will be a few names there that will be small surprises.
Right now, the 10-40 range in this draft is clear as mud. There's at least a remote chance that a guy like Brown who is running a bit more on potential than performance could slip down into the early second. Or, let's say, it's basically certain that at least a few guys like Brown are going to slip into the early second, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise to me if he were to be available for the Kings. Maybe a small surprise, but there will be a few names there that will be small surprises.
I think Monte will have a hard time going wrong if the Kings stick to 7-8. Mathurin I like less than Davis though. Both would be solid picks however. Mathurin reminds me of Tim Hardaway Jr.
Yeah the only real way to screw up this draft is reaching for TyTy or Duren at that 7-8. I wouldn't be overtly thrilled with Eason/Agbaji/Sochan, but at least there's a "need" component there that would make sense with some positional upside. And I'm a huge fan of that 2nd Murray/Mathurin/Davis/Griffin tier, all of whom I think have really good/valuable NBA skill0sets.
TyTy/Duren would just be the worst of both worlds. I don't think anywhere close to BPA, and don't fill a need.
Duren is intriguing, but the fit is is horrible. Tyty? I don’t see it.
Yeah I'm extremely low on TyTy. Not an explosive athlete, not an elite shooter, not a super convincing lead playmaker/ball-handler, nothing popped on D. Nothing stands out in the statistical profile either. I just don't get what makes him a lotto prospect on everyone's board.
Duren is really interesting, but I just don't think he's BPA at 7-8 regardless and the fit is extremely rough with Sabonis long-term.
Yeah the only real way to screw up this draft is reaching for TyTy or Duren at that 7-8. I wouldn't be overtly thrilled with Eason/Agbaji/Sochan, but at least there's a "need" component there that would make sense with some positional upside. And I'm a huge fan of that 2nd Murray/Mathurin/Davis/Griffin tier, all of whom I think have really good/valuable NBA skill0sets.
TyTy/Duren would just be the worst of both worlds. I don't think anywhere close to BPA, and don't fill a need.
Yeah, if we hadn't just traded Tyrese for an all-star big, I would probably be fine with drafting Duren. As this roster is currently built though, drafting any center that isn't Chet in the top ten would be an epic fail.Duren is intriguing, but the fit is is horrible. Tyty? I don’t see it.