Sac.Kings
All-Star
Sure, but then we wouldn't be the Kings. If we did what we were supposed to do, I would be even more worried! It would upset the balance of the universe.
Let's Make the Playoffs! & The State of the Opposition
- Thread starter Bricklayer
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ockingsfan
Starter
I think a .500 record or about 40-42 wins will earn the #8 seed in this years playoffs in the West.
THE WEST IS THE NEW EAST, and its about time!
I think the Kings will be the #8, if not the #7 seed, come April 14th!
THE WEST IS THE NEW EAST, and its about time!
I think the Kings will be the #8, if not the #7 seed, come April 14th!
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
The thing is for all the hand wringing, wailing and gnashing of teeth we are in the 9th slot a hairs breadth from 8, have won 5 of the last 7, and split the road trip 2 and 2... that ain't bad. The fact that the team still has lots of room for growth with the roster we have is a cause for OPTIMISM, it means with nothing more than a little rest, hard work and determination we can improve with what we have in a short time. I think .500 is doable and will get us in the play offs.
parker
Bench
I'm guessing that fans of Minn, Toronto, Washington, and Indiana all thought that they should have won those games.
Were the King's favored in any of them?
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Those two games right there just doesn't favor the Kings in their recent history considering they have yet to ever win in OKC and haven't won in Dallas since when? 04? 05?
I
Im Still Ballin
Guest
What exactly is our defensive gameplan
Overload the ball handler and the inside, and try to close out 3pt shooters with our length
Overload the ball handler and the inside, and try to close out 3pt shooters with our length
Ron
Starter
Why not a 6 game W streak?
We CAN surprise the Dubs in our home.
Siranthony
Starter
What a difference a day makes.
lwc
Starter
If the Kings are to be a playoff team, they need to win the games they should win and pull out a few upsets. Very few teams SHOULD be able to beat the Kings if they used their length to defend well and got the other team in foul trouble with Boogie and Rudy. Rondo's drive-and-dish to open shooters like Omri, Marco, and Ben should create good perimeter shots. Side-entry passes to DMC create double-teams that also open the floor for cutters as well as 2-3 pass open perimeter shooters. This is not rocket science but this team cannot seem to do it.
I truly think the 4 day Christmas break the team is on will help heal Boogie up a little and help the team to focus. I truly think that this team can sneak into the 8th seed if they can gain ground on Utah with Gobert out. To me, Utah is the real contender for the 8th seed with us, the other teams will fizzle out.
I truly think the 4 day Christmas break the team is on will help heal Boogie up a little and help the team to focus. I truly think that this team can sneak into the 8th seed if they can gain ground on Utah with Gobert out. To me, Utah is the real contender for the 8th seed with us, the other teams will fizzle out.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
chasen4r1
Starter
Watching the Pelicans here on Christmas Day has me thinking...
If the Kings make a push to the 8 seed and resign Rondo this off season, I could see the Kings having a Christmas Day game next season.
Random, but had to post. Keep pushing, Kings! And Merry Christmas to my fellow Kings Fans
If the Kings make a push to the 8 seed and resign Rondo this off season, I could see the Kings having a Christmas Day game next season.
Random, but had to post. Keep pushing, Kings! And Merry Christmas to my fellow Kings Fans
randymoss1881
Starter
Well one thing I learned today (well maybe 10 years ago) is we need defense to win. Playoffs or no playoffs Karl has to go get a defensive coach in here or nothing good will happen. We have too many good defenders to be this poor.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Who exactly are these good defenders you are referring to?
randymoss1881
Starter
Ben, DMC, Koufos, Collison and Gay has shown the ability than add in WCS.
K
KingMilz
Guest
Ability and consistancy are two completely different things
lwc
Starter
Fair point. I do believe that the Clippers will get their act together though. Therefore, I think by seasons end 5-8 will be in play for someone. I'm no greedy, I'll be happy with any of those spots
c-webb1s#1
Starter
The only way this team will make the playoffs is if we start playing better team defense. You honestly do not need great defensive players to be respectable as a team on the defensive end. We lack communication and trust on defense, but above all we lack 48 minutes of effort.
I feel like if we could be at least respectable on that end of the floor we can be a top 10-15 team easy.
We have a real opportunity to make the playoffs this season and I would hate for us to miss it because of weak D.
I feel like if we could be at least respectable on that end of the floor we can be a top 10-15 team easy.
We have a real opportunity to make the playoffs this season and I would hate for us to miss it because of weak D.
Might be a short lived woo hoo with the game against the champs on Monday but it would be a great sign regardless.
Because I think once the Kings realize they are in the playoff picture, the will to win will be that much stronger.
gil renard
Bench
Kings will beat the Warriors in a letdown game after their Christmas win over Cleveland lol. You heard it here first.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Its not inconceivable. Warriors are going to lose to more teams here, and it is well positioned.
That said, for obvious reasons counting on any such event, in their gym no less, would be asking to be made unhappy.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Ben is not a good defender, he is inconsistent. DeMarcus plays good defense when he wants to but he is probably the best defender out of the bunch. Collison is undersized to make any impact defensively IMO and Gay is not who you think he is, sure...he's shown the ability from time to time, that in no way means he is a "good" defender. Good defenders don't coast and play defense when they want to. Cauley Stein is a rookie, a good defensive rookie might I add, but still a rookie who needs to learn some fundamentals on the defensive end to adjust properly to the pros.
gil renard
Bench
Memphis and Houston take L's. Kings one game behind them in loss column.
gil renard
Bench
Also, Blake Griffin has a torn quad and is out at least two weeks, likely longer. The Clippers have no depth so I could see them falling below .500; they weren't playing that well even with Blake.
If I can derail this asinine Cousins versus Duncan debate, for just a hot second... since when does that thing that Cousins does where he backs his man down, and then spins to the baseline not count as a post move? What the hell do you guys think that post moves are supposed to look like? Are you under the impression that it only "counts" as a post move if there's some sort of pump fake or hook shot involved?
EDIT: I moved the "Cousins versus Duncan debate" to its own thread. I wasn't sure where this post went so I left it here. Carry on. - VF21
EDIT: I moved the "Cousins versus Duncan debate" to its own thread. I wasn't sure where this post went so I left it here. Carry on. - VF21
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I
Im Still Ballin
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The dual PG lineups is another topic, but let's not act like there is a legitimate rift on that issue. From what we heard from DC, the players seem to be in favor of it
Also the small-ball lineups are getting better specified... With Casspi's emergence at the 4 in the starting lineup
Defense is still the biggest issue... We give up the least shots 0-3 ft from the basket, but the 2nd most threes. Teams shoot alot of threes against us, and at roughly around the league average %... Which is not an indicator of great defense. High volume at decent efficiency. The stats and the game shows we over commit on the inside. And even though we give up the least from 0-3, we also let teams shoot the 2nd best percentage in the league there. So we've got clear issues all around the joint. Surprisingly we do alright against corner threes. We allow teams to shoot alot of corner threes, but we defend them very well. Interesting
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html
Also the small-ball lineups are getting better specified... With Casspi's emergence at the 4 in the starting lineup
Defense is still the biggest issue... We give up the least shots 0-3 ft from the basket, but the 2nd most threes. Teams shoot alot of threes against us, and at roughly around the league average %... Which is not an indicator of great defense. High volume at decent efficiency. The stats and the game shows we over commit on the inside. And even though we give up the least from 0-3, we also let teams shoot the 2nd best percentage in the league there. So we've got clear issues all around the joint. Surprisingly we do alright against corner threes. We allow teams to shoot alot of corner threes, but we defend them very well. Interesting
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html
lwc
Starter
This is helpful for the Kings.
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